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nhill
Member Thu Jul 14 10:07:23
http://www...0/nintendo-nes-classic-console

First GO, now this... https://collegecandy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/make-it-rain-gif.gif

nhill
Member Thu Jul 14 10:07:34
http://col...m/2013/03/make-it-rain-gif.gif

Palem
Person. Thu Jul 14 12:19:28
Bonus points if every 3rd use requires you to blow into it.

Kinda cool. Just seems like a very limited emulator though.

hood
Member Thu Jul 14 14:56:25
Well, an emulator with HDMI that is easily hooked up to a TV.

I'd be more interested in the SNES or n64. Then again, I think I still have my old n64 somewhere.

Palem
Person. Thu Jul 14 15:06:08
You can build one with raspberry pi that costs less, plays more games on more systems and has HDMI output.

nhill
Member Thu Jul 14 15:27:07
This will sell more by the end of the year than Raspberry Pis will in history. :)

Most people would rather have an official Nintendo tiny replica of the NES that runs 30 of the best games than some fugly Raspberry Pi illegally running roms hanging off the back of their TV. :p

nhill
Member Thu Jul 14 15:31:15
Raspberry Pis actually sold 5+ million, impressive! I revise my prediction to the end of next year :D

Palem
Person. Thu Jul 14 15:54:07
To be fair, it's only illegal for games you've never owned.

nhill
Member Thu Jul 14 15:55:29
That's a myth :p

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom

earthpig
GTFO HOer Thu Jul 14 23:11:51
"That's a myth :p"

According to the copyright holder.

nhill
Member Fri Jul 15 08:41:43
As does the law. :)

The backup argument only applies if you a) created the backup yourself and b) have proof of purchase. In reality, practically nobody that is playing roms can fulfill those clauses.

Palem
Person. Fri Jul 15 14:23:36
I did create the backup and I have the cartridges/boxes to most of my old games and such.

But even if I didn't that's a pretty flimsy argument. I'm reasonably sure I can't prove that I bought my TV, but that's not proof that I stole it. Likewise, to what extent does one have to create the backup? Do I have to code the rom? Do I have to create the emulator? When I make a copy of a CD, I didn't produce the blank CD. I didn't create the software that duplicates the music files.

Tldr: copyright issues regarding roms/emulators are scare tactics

hood
Member Fri Jul 15 14:26:36
Apparently this is not the launch of a platform; no plans for any sort of port or expansion to include more games.

nhill
Member Fri Jul 15 14:57:52
Well, that's quite the tiring digression so I'll pretend that people can legally play roms.

nhill
Member Fri Jul 15 15:43:59
Most people would rather have an official Nintendo tiny replica of the NES that runs 30 of the best games than some fugly Raspberry Pi running roms hanging off the back of their TV. :p

Palem
Person. Fri Jul 15 21:33:44
http://www...nt/uploads/2014/11/dOP5HrP.jpg

You're right. Hideous lol

nhill
Member Fri Jul 15 21:44:56
I could build an NES chassis around a well formed turd and use your "argument". :D

http://www...fruit2013/images/little_pi.png

Palem
Person. Fri Jul 15 22:43:50
I just don't understand a single bit of your argument.

It doesn't hang off your TV. It works off an HDMI cable just like the TinyNES will.

You can buy a case that makes it look like a tiny NES (or whatever other case you'd like to house it in, some of which look very nice) so I'm not sure how you can peg it as "fugly". There are also a ton of awesome custom builds that look out of this world awesome compared to the little NES.

I think most people would rather have a thing that can play (potentially) play thousands of games of your choice on a number of old counsels, which can be made usable with a wide variety of controllers, vs a thing that can play 30 games not of your choice, from one old counsel, that you have to use the original NES controller to play.

It's fine if you want to buy one. I'm not trying to shit on it. Looks cool. I'm just saying there are cheaper/better alternatives to people and you're over here talking nonsense lol

nhill
Member Fri Jul 15 23:27:01
Makes sense, that's the position it appeared you were taking, but I appreciate the word count.

Despite your ardent feelings, most people will prefer to have this than a Raspberry Pi. ^_^

nhill
Member Fri Jul 15 23:29:15
I also apologize if my colorful descriptions of the Raspberry Pi offended you, none was meant.

nhill
Member Mon Jul 18 09:34:32
Pokemon Go & NES Classic... Nintendo's printing money at this point...

ww.polygon.com/2016/7/18/12211740/nintendo-record-pokemon-go-stock

nhill
Member Mon Jul 18 09:34:54
http://www...ntendo-record-pokemon-go-stock

Palem
Person. Mon Jul 18 15:26:07
Not if they don't fix this damn footprints bug. Takes all the damn fun out of the game :(

nhill
Member Wed Jul 20 09:11:02
http://dea...out-anything-else-w-1783965413

Interesting, $57 for a NES Raspberry Pi kit without a controller.

Palem
Person. Wed Jul 20 18:39:39
See, now THAT is a fugly case lol

nhill
Member Wed Jul 20 20:10:30
Indeed! :D

nhill
Member Thu Jul 21 12:08:53
Late 80s style trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAGVilt3Rls

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Thu Jul 21 12:55:09
Most people are probably to lazy to buy the raspberry and make their own.

nhill
Member Thu Jul 21 15:45:26
An hour of my time is worth ~$60 so I can see the appeal of getting something ready made rather than spending an hour configuring a Raspberry Pi...

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Fri Jul 22 03:08:13
The people that know how that sort of thing works would use the Raspberry Pi. If you have no idea how to do it, what's the time frame to learn how and then do it?

nhill
Member Fri Jul 22 08:54:47
Raspberry Pi kits, such as above, come preloaded with linux. From there it should be fairly simple to install the NES emulator. Then you'd download the roms, find an NES controller and one of those USB adapters for it, and hope that it has linux drivers. Then you'd configure the NES controller within your emulator, and you may be on your way. An ideal setup would boot straight into the NES emulator with the controller configured, but that would take a bit more time.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Sun Jul 24 14:01:20
Raspberry pi is
cheaper than a console is
stop with the Haikus

Palem
Person. Sun Jul 24 22:21:10
"If you have no idea how to do it, what's the time frame to learn how and then do it? "

There are guides out there to help people get things set up and running. Assuming there are no mechanical issues or anything like that, it shouldn't be too hard. However, for someone with little/no experience with linux and/or emulators, getting the TinyNES is probably the much better option unless they're bound and determined on building the Emulator console.

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nhill Member	Thu Jul 14 10:07:23 http://www...0/nintendo-nes-classic-console First GO, now this... https://collegecandy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/make-it-rain-gif.gif
nhill Member	Thu Jul 14 10:07:34 http://col...m/2013/03/make-it-rain-gif.gif
Palem Person.	Thu Jul 14 12:19:28 Bonus points if every 3rd use requires you to blow into it. Kinda cool. Just seems like a very limited emulator though.
hood Member	Thu Jul 14 14:56:25 Well, an emulator with HDMI that is easily hooked up to a TV. I'd be more interested in the SNES or n64. Then again, I think I still have my old n64 somewhere.
Palem Person.	Thu Jul 14 15:06:08 You can build one with raspberry pi that costs less, plays more games on more systems and has HDMI output.
nhill Member	Thu Jul 14 15:27:07 This will sell more by the end of the year than Raspberry Pis will in history. :) Most people would rather have an official Nintendo tiny replica of the NES that runs 30 of the best games than some fugly Raspberry Pi illegally running roms hanging off the back of their TV. :p
nhill Member	Thu Jul 14 15:31:15 Raspberry Pis actually sold 5+ million, impressive! I revise my prediction to the end of next year :D
Palem Person.	Thu Jul 14 15:54:07 To be fair, it's only illegal for games you've never owned.
nhill Member	Thu Jul 14 15:55:29 That's a myth :p http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Jul 14 23:11:51 "That's a myth :p" According to the copyright holder.
nhill Member	Fri Jul 15 08:41:43 As does the law. :) The backup argument only applies if you a) created the backup yourself and b) have proof of purchase. In reality, practically nobody that is playing roms can fulfill those clauses.
Palem Person.	Fri Jul 15 14:23:36 I did create the backup and I have the cartridges/boxes to most of my old games and such. But even if I didn't that's a pretty flimsy argument. I'm reasonably sure I can't prove that I bought my TV, but that's not proof that I stole it. Likewise, to what extent does one have to create the backup? Do I have to code the rom? Do I have to create the emulator? When I make a copy of a CD, I didn't produce the blank CD. I didn't create the software that duplicates the music files. Tldr: copyright issues regarding roms/emulators are scare tactics
hood Member	Fri Jul 15 14:26:36 Apparently this is not the launch of a platform; no plans for any sort of port or expansion to include more games.
nhill Member	Fri Jul 15 14:57:52 Well, that's quite the tiring digression so I'll pretend that people can legally play roms.
nhill Member	Fri Jul 15 15:43:59 Most people would rather have an official Nintendo tiny replica of the NES that runs 30 of the best games than some fugly Raspberry Pi running roms hanging off the back of their TV. :p
Palem Person.	Fri Jul 15 21:33:44 http://www...nt/uploads/2014/11/dOP5HrP.jpg You're right. Hideous lol
nhill Member	Fri Jul 15 21:44:56 I could build an NES chassis around a well formed turd and use your "argument". :D http://www...fruit2013/images/little_pi.png
Palem Person.	Fri Jul 15 22:43:50 I just don't understand a single bit of your argument. It doesn't hang off your TV. It works off an HDMI cable just like the TinyNES will. You can buy a case that makes it look like a tiny NES (or whatever other case you'd like to house it in, some of which look very nice) so I'm not sure how you can peg it as "fugly". There are also a ton of awesome custom builds that look out of this world awesome compared to the little NES. I think most people would rather have a thing that can play (potentially) play thousands of games of your choice on a number of old counsels, which can be made usable with a wide variety of controllers, vs a thing that can play 30 games not of your choice, from one old counsel, that you have to use the original NES controller to play. It's fine if you want to buy one. I'm not trying to shit on it. Looks cool. I'm just saying there are cheaper/better alternatives to people and you're over here talking nonsense lol
nhill Member	Fri Jul 15 23:27:01 Makes sense, that's the position it appeared you were taking, but I appreciate the word count. Despite your ardent feelings, most people will prefer to have this than a Raspberry Pi. ^_^
nhill Member	Fri Jul 15 23:29:15 I also apologize if my colorful descriptions of the Raspberry Pi offended you, none was meant.
nhill Member	Mon Jul 18 09:34:32 Pokemon Go & NES Classic... Nintendo's printing money at this point... ww.polygon.com/2016/7/18/12211740/nintendo-record-pokemon-go-stock
nhill Member	Mon Jul 18 09:34:54 http://www...ntendo-record-pokemon-go-stock
Palem Person.	Mon Jul 18 15:26:07 Not if they don't fix this damn footprints bug. Takes all the damn fun out of the game :(
nhill Member	Wed Jul 20 09:11:02 http://dea...out-anything-else-w-1783965413 Interesting, $57 for a NES Raspberry Pi kit without a controller.
Palem Person.	Wed Jul 20 18:39:39 See, now THAT is a fugly case lol
nhill Member	Wed Jul 20 20:10:30 Indeed! :D
nhill Member	Thu Jul 21 12:08:53 Late 80s style trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAGVilt3Rls
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Thu Jul 21 12:55:09 Most people are probably to lazy to buy the raspberry and make their own.
nhill Member	Thu Jul 21 15:45:26 An hour of my time is worth ~$60 so I can see the appeal of getting something ready made rather than spending an hour configuring a Raspberry Pi...
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Fri Jul 22 03:08:13 The people that know how that sort of thing works would use the Raspberry Pi. If you have no idea how to do it, what's the time frame to learn how and then do it?
nhill Member	Fri Jul 22 08:54:47 Raspberry Pi kits, such as above, come preloaded with linux. From there it should be fairly simple to install the NES emulator. Then you'd download the roms, find an NES controller and one of those USB adapters for it, and hope that it has linux drivers. Then you'd configure the NES controller within your emulator, and you may be on your way. An ideal setup would boot straight into the NES emulator with the controller configured, but that would take a bit more time.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Jul 24 14:01:20 Raspberry pi is cheaper than a console is stop with the Haikus
Palem Person.	Sun Jul 24 22:21:10 "If you have no idea how to do it, what's the time frame to learn how and then do it? " There are guides out there to help people get things set up and running. Assuming there are no mechanical issues or anything like that, it shouldn't be too hard. However, for someone with little/no experience with linux and/or emulators, getting the TinyNES is probably the much better option unless they're bound and determined on building the Emulator console.
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