Utopia Talk / Politics / Russell Brand found guilty of rape

LazyCommunist rank	Thu Nov 05 17:33:58 Oh no ... He is a good guy and always helped us to spread Russian propaganda, he was such a useful idiot. Maybe he can continue in jail with it? Or maybe we can capture a British citizen and exchange him for Russell? https://ed...ll-brand-trial-verdict-uk-intl Actor and comedian Russell Brand found guilty of rape and sexual assault London — British actor, comedian and media personality Russell Brand faces a lengthy prison sentence after he was found guilty in a London court on Thursday of raping a young fan and sexually assaulting three women. Brand, 51, was convicted of raping the fan in 2009 after they met at one of his shows in west London. He was also found guilty of groping an MTV worker at a bar in central London in 2004, kissing and groping another woman at her workplace in 2005 and sexually assaulting another woman in 2009 when she was forced to give him a massage. At Southwark Crown Court on Thursday, a jury of eight men and four women cleared the star of two separate charges of rape and one count of attempted indecent assault, after deliberating for around eight and a half hours. Speaking after the verdicts were delivered, judge Joel Bennathan said the case was “very well prepared,” according to Britain’s Press Association, adding that sentencing would take place on Monday. Brand, who stood straight in the dock as the verdicts were revealed and closed his eyes as he heard he was found guilty of rape, has been remanded in custody. “The consequence of that is inevitably a significant custodial term,” Bennathan said. Brand “used his influence, status and fame to exploit and sexually offend against women,” London’s Metropolitan Police Service said following the comedian’s conviction. “As his profile grew, so too did his sense of entitlement. I hope this conviction sends a clear message that no one is above the law, no matter how famous or powerful they may be,” Detective Superintendent Andy Furphy said in a statement.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Nov 05 18:36:49 Who
Seb rank	Thu Nov 05 22:31:39 It figures that Sam - who knows every single sex offender in the UK who is a minority by name and will follow their case from apprehension through to conviction and appeal and post about them obsessively here - has never heard of this one even though his crimes are both prolific and he is pretty high profile.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Nov 05 23:00:08 Congrats baboon you finally found a white criminal.
murder rank	Fri Nov 06 00:15:34 "Who" Katy Perry's ex-husband. -
Im better then you rank	Fri Nov 06 06:53:38 I think we can all agree he was demented for cheating on Katy Perry.
Forwyn rank	Fri Nov 06 17:42:28 Gee, I can't imagine why someone would care less about *checks notes* a white "rapist" fondling the tit of a girl giving him a blowjob, than a teenager getting gangbanged in the bushes by a pack of third-worlders.
murder rank	Fri Nov 06 21:12:57 "Gee, I can't imagine why someone would care less about *checks notes* a white "rapist" fondling the tit of a girl giving him a blowjob, than a teenager getting gangbanged in the bushes by a pack of third-worlders." Maybe you shouldn't rely on the notes of *checks notes* rapists. -
Forwyn rank	Fri Nov 06 21:23:38 Maybe I can rely on the jury verdict, that found that the blowjob was consensual, but the groping was not.
jergul rank	Fri Nov 06 21:31:06 To be fair, it found that there was not enough evidence proving the blowjob was non-consensual beyond reasonable doubt. A civic trial might determine what the balance of probability is.
Rugian rank	Fri Nov 06 23:37:51 "Maybe I can rely on the jury verdict, that found that the blowjob was consensual, but the groping was not." The fuck? There's no way that can actually be what they decided.
tumbleweed rank	Sat Nov 07 00:01:09 they didn't find it was consensual, as jergul said, just didn't convict him on the alleged forced oral sex it's not unlike w/ Trump where Jean alleged he put Toad in too but they only found liable for fingers
Seb rank	Sat Nov 07 09:12:57 It's very telling that Forwyn is focusing on one count with one woman where he wasn't convicted and not the various other charges and other women he was. Very much the expected "Save our women (for us)" vibe the far right (who are statistically far more likely to be convicted of sexual violence and abuse than the general population).
Forwyn rank	Sat Nov 07 15:08:33 As three of the four charges are muhhh groping, it's telling that one of the three involves a woman who sucked his cock in a bathroom stall right after. And all three are based on nothing but testimony twenty years later. The one rape charge is a case of consensual sex but he stuck it in her butt. This does indeed follow a trend. You ignore savage violent rape by your imports and point at cases of rich white men being weird and having consent issues with strange whores. You legitimate think that Assange pulling off a condom during consensual sex is exactly the same as a jogger being accosted and dragged in the bushes. You cry about muh Cornell 7 but ignore two hispanics drugging, raping, and killing a Manhattan student.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Nov 07 17:37:22 "who are statistically far more likely to be convicted of sexual violence and abuse than the general population" A low IQ lie. Imagine importing pakistanis, watching the grooming gang outbreak, and then spewing that lie. Not just the fact that you are a liar, but the fact that you expect others to believe such a lie... Baboon IQ.
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 16:06:29 Forwyn: Yeah but one of those charges is anal rape, and groping is still sexual assault. "And all three are based on nothing but testimony twenty years later." Indeed, and they secured a conviction of 4 of the 6 counts. Imagine how convincing then the various testimony must have been - corroborating accounts, contemporaneous records etc. - for this to secure a conviction, and how likely it is that the other accounts represent that lack of robust enough evidence 20 years later. The UK conviction rate for rape is low by international standards (as you and Sam keep reminding us, though to reframe it as over reporting, though to are happy to also attribute it to real rapes committed by immigrants that go unpunished and unconvicted).
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 16:07:58 NaMBLA: https://ww...olence-against-women-and-girls
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 16:09:21 Over 40% of the people you were vigorously defending as subject to "two tier policing" while they were rioting and trying to set alight women and children in hotels had prior convictions for violence against women and girls NaMBLA. These are the people you choose to defend. And we know why.
Trolling UPer rank	Sun Nov 08 16:43:13 Who would have ever suspected forpedo and samstein to be for rape and sexual assault. It's like they all stick together under some sort of a cult and still offended by the metoo crowd and always do the whataboutisms. It's a fucking celebrity where their last caught up with em. It's like saying 'oh, he killed somebody way back when and never got caught, why should we hold them accountable now' remove 'muh statute of limitations' because I support predators and rapists. How can I call myself a man anymore!?'
Forwyn rank	Sun Nov 08 17:47:21 "Yeah but one of those charges is anal rape" "The one rape charge is a case of consensual sex but he stuck it in her butt." "groping is still sexual assault." I've been groped by drunk women twice. I don't think they should go to prison for it.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Nov 08 17:54:28 Ahhh a guardian article. That explains all the lies. I didn't realize there were any humans dumb enough to read that thing still... oh wait.
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 18:22:20 Let's be clear about this Forwyn: "Then, without warning, Brand flipped her over and anally raped her so violently that she struggled to breathe. She begged him to stop but he refused, telling her: “I want you to feel my come.” To you, this isn't a serious crime?
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 18:23:02 NaMBLA: Forwyn is going to great lengths to disprove you.
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 18:24:37 Forwyn doesn't think groping a woman should be a crime, and holding a woman down and violently analy raping them is also fine, as long as they've sucked you off first. Charming specimen of manhood.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Nov 08 18:36:19 Seb you posted a guardian article
murder rank	Sun Nov 08 19:22:46 "I've been groped by drunk women twice. I don't think they should go to prison for it." I guess don't file charges then. That doesn't mean that others should just accept it. -
Forwyn rank	Sun Nov 08 19:49:28 Yes, let's be clear here Seb: You entered this article crying that Sam posts about violent third-world rapists but is ignorant of Russell Brand - who you see as worse and more disgusting - because he is white and rich. And no, sticking it into the butt of someone you're already fucking is not as serious as a sudden, anonymous violent rape. Serious? Sure, it's the only thing here worth a judicial review 20 years later. But still not worth your original false indignance. "I guess don't file charges then. That doesn't mean that others should just accept it." Still an incredible waste of resources, not to mention the disturbing nature of impartial jurisprudence for a person to say, "He grabbed my tit", the accused to say, "no I didn't", and criminal charges stick twenty years later.
Trolling UPer rank	Mon Nov 09 06:35:14 Ah yes Forpedo, advocator for sexual assault. It's okay. 'grab em by the pussy'. Quite explains the culture and the mentality he had for normalization of such acts. Forpedo addressing a sexual assaulted victim. Where were you touched without consent, on your private area? No big deal. You probably asked for it how you were dressed. Victim: 15 year old girl in a bathing suit. Not shocking that Forpedo wants things like this to be okay. Cultists doing cultist things.
Seb rank	Mon Nov 09 10:06:46 "or a person to say, "He grabbed my tit", the accused to say, "no I didn't", and criminal charges stick twenty years later." Except that's not what happened. Only in your mind is the strength of the evidence just one person's word against his. Hence the counts that he was cleared of. And there you go again with your "crying" thing again. Well look at you, crying about Brands entirely justified conviction. "Then, without warning, Brand flipped her over and anally raped her so violently that she struggled to breathe. She begged him to stop but he refused, telling her: “I want you to feel my come.” Sounds violent and sudden to me. Why don't you show this to the women in your life - especially if you are in a sexual relationship - and see what they think. At the very least it will give them some options before they have sex with your knowing what you might consider reasonable behaviour.
Seb rank	Mon Nov 09 13:17:14 Brand was a renowned sex pest. His abuse was an open secret in the industry and tolerated as long as he was making money for people. That is part of the reason they are able to secure convictions now: many many pieces of corroborating testimony from many people. It's really quite disgusting that Forwyn continues to both defend Brand, minimise his crimes and lie about the nature of the evidence against him.
Trolling UPer rank	Mon Nov 09 13:38:54 Because Forpedo is a sex abuser himself likely and defends those of that sort. Hence his defense for Trump and his Epstein connection. This is a metoo movement relec in his eyes that men are being oppressed. Females should not have any power over men.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Nov 09 16:17:18 "really quite disgusting that Forwyn continues to both defend Brand, minimise his crimes and lie about the nature of the evidence against him." Editors note. Seb does the exact same thing with migrants on a much much larger scale.
Forwyn rank	Mon Nov 09 16:23:50 "Except that's not what happened." That's exactly what happened. The entire account was based on an anonymous 2023 police interview, saying that he grabbed her tit within a minute of meeting her. This, in a crowded bar, with zero corroborating witnesses. She then went on to blow him in a bathroom stall and swallow. "Sounds violent and sudden to me." a) Yes, as already stated, you are unable to differentiate between a consensual encounter crossing a line and an entirely non-consensual encounter. b) This testimony was from a woman who sucked him off but turned down sex because she had a boyfriend. LOL! Then she showed up at his house stinky and he made her take a shower. This is the type of whore to snort ketamine off a man's dick, say the situation was legal and consensual, then do a 180° because she was disinvited from a Halloween party. Luckily, I am not married to a whore, and we were able to look at both of these cases and laugh about them. Incidentally, two more bullets on why the 19th needs to be repealed post-haste.
Seb rank	Mon Nov 09 16:31:11 There were more than 400 witness statements from over 100 witnesses, 1,400 documents, historical photographs and floor plans of locations where offences allegedly occurred. They used material from Brand's television appearances, performances, interviews, podcasts and books, used to establish timelines and test his accounts and the victims. There were inconsistencies in his account. So no, it was not just the word of the victim, and the idea this is some sort of conspiracy and collaboration against Brand years later is absurd
Forwyn rank	Mon Nov 09 16:33:21 You are adding up all accounts on all charges. The tit grab was based on the witness account. Zero other human beings corroborated this.
Seb rank	Mon Nov 09 16:35:20 Forwyn: "consensual encounter crossing a line" Crossing a line? Yeah, the line into violent, aggressive rape. This distinction you have created is fictional. You are trying to make this a case of blurred understanding of consent or miscommunication rather than what it is: violent rape.
Seb rank	Mon Nov 09 16:35:42 Fucking full on incel.
Forwyn rank	Mon Nov 09 16:40:52 An entire generation of women snatching up 50 Shades as fast as the industry can print them...and your retarded ass seriously cannot differentiate between a random hookup having consent issues, and a woman being grabbed off the street by a random assailant. Lol. Don't be a sex groupie for a rich weirdo and the former is not a concern.
murder rank	Mon Nov 09 16:48:24 "An entire generation of women snatching up 50 Shades as fast as the industry can print them ..." This is not to be confused with consent. -
Forwyn rank	Mon Nov 09 17:01:19 Consent can be affirmed after the fact, then reversed later. Schrodinger's Feminist
jergul rank	Mon Nov 09 17:36:18 Probably best to just avoid ambigous situation that may or may not be rape then dont you think mr. schredinger's rapist?
Forwyn rank	Mon Nov 09 17:39:19 Indeed. Fucking strange groupie whores while constantly in some state of inebriation is an invitation to nasty accusations, and an invitation to be treated as a groupie sex object for the whore.
jergul rank	Mon Nov 09 17:55:14 The mindset you are sharing is a rapist mindset.
Im better then you rank	Mon Nov 09 18:06:56 The guy is a piece of shit and deserves more than 10 years.
Forwyn rank	Mon Nov 09 18:18:02 "The mindset you are sharing is a rapist mindset." The mindset you are sharing is a delicate construct that requires the full weight of the government to maintain. Easier to just not be a whore, don't cheat on your boyfriend for Russell Brand, don't suck off random guys in a bathroom stall, don't be a fleshlight for the shitfaced loser.
jergul rank	Mon Nov 09 18:22:04 lol dummydumbdumb. Get over your mother-madonna-whore complex. Its easy. Just stop thinking of women as whores. It might help you not rape one some day.
Forwyn rank	Mon Nov 09 18:45:45 All humans are equal, just as all rapes are equal. The sebgul way.
LazyCommunist rank	Mon Nov 09 20:52:50 Comrade ... :-( https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c670ppzjwxpnt Warning: This page contains distressing details Russell Brand has been sentenced to 10-and-a-half years for rape and three counts of sexual assault - he is likely to serve two-thirds of the sentence in prison The judge tells Brand he is a "sexual predator", who told a "series of lies" and displayed "staggering arrogance" Earlier, one victim told the court she was "in shock and turmoil... I didn't have any respect for myself" Another victim said "Russell Brand is a sexual predator who has no remorse", while another said she "felt powerless in that moment" The woman who Brand raped in 2009 told the court she was "living with trauma", and feared she had contracted HIV Brand faced seven charges: three of rape, three of sexual assault and one of attempted indecent assault. He was found not guilty on three counts
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