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murder
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Wed Aug 26 03:28:33
A Montana man killed 8 relatives, including 4 kids, at Sunday dinner, family says

A man who killed eight of his relatives, including four children, as they gathered for Sunday dinner at a home in Montana had been asked to move out of the residence weeks earlier. That's according to Brad Ireland, whose former wife and two children were among the victims. Ireland told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the victims spanned four generations of the blended family. Police previously said they responded to the home Sunday evening and heard gunshots coming from out back, just before the house was completely engulfed in flames. They confirmed nine people had died, including a suspect with a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

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murder
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Wed Aug 26 03:32:32

The victims represented four generations of the blended family, ranging from a great-grandmother in her 90s who used a wheelchair to a 7-year-old girl, according to Jennifer Mercer, a neighbor and family friend who set up an online fundraiser to help cover funeral costs and other expenses, and was authorized to release these details.

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Sam Adams
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Wed Aug 26 03:49:16
Outliers vs normality.
jergul
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Wed Aug 26 04:24:28
Outlier dummy? What is this sudden understanding that triggering headlines are actually not the norm?

In this case, certainly by at least a standard deviation. Not all Americans do stuff like that. I would even say that probably not even a marjority are like that.
Sam Adams
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Wed Aug 26 05:08:37
Except mine are much closer representations of the mean.
murder
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Wed Aug 26 12:43:16

Polygamous sect leader serving 50 years for child sex abuse gets another 24 years

Samuel Bateman, 50, is convicted of three state child abuse counts after previous conviction on federal counts

A polygamous sect leader already serving a 50-year federal sentence for orchestrating sex involving children was given another 24 years in prison Tuesday on separate state convictions for child abuse for hauling girls in an unventilated trailer in Arizona.

Samuel Bateman, 50, was convicted of three child abuse counts stemming from an August 2022 traffic stop in Flagstaff that led to the discovery of three girls, aged 11 to 14, in the trailer. It had a makeshift toilet, sofa and camping chairs and lacked air conditioning and seat belts. Someone tipped off authorities about the trailer after seeing small fingers reaching through gaps in the doors.

Bateman, whose small group was an offshoot of the polygamous sect once led by Warren Jeffs, is currently serving 50 years in federal prison for coercing girls as young as nine to submit to sex acts with him and other adults and for scheming to kidnap girls from protective custody.

Citing an “insane danger” to the girls in the trailer, among other factors, Judge Joshua Steinlage ordered Bateman to serve the state sentence after completing the 50-year federal sentence.

“I love these dear people with all my heart, and I had no intention in the entire world to harm them,” said Bateman, who represented himself in the case and didn’t make a plea for leniency during his sentencing hearing.

Victims urged the judge to reject Bateman’s claims that he didn’t mean to harm anyone.

One victim who was in the trailer when Bateman was pulled over described the psychological pain she suffered. The victim, who was then 14, said Bateman took advantage of her sexually when she was 12. She said she has had to undergo therapy to recover from “things that should have never happened to me as a child”.

“He stole my childhood,” she said.

Bateman, a self-proclaimed prophet, previously claimed to have more than 20 “spiritual wives”, including 10 girls under the age of 18.

In the state case, Bateman acknowledged he knew the girls were in a hot trailer for hours and that the ventilation wasn’t good, but he downplayed the conditions.

Bateman had claimed he thought the girls had gotten out when they stopped. He said he was as “shocked as could possibly be” when he learned that they were still inside when he was pulled over.

“Today’s sentence is about accountability for the harm done to these young victims,” Ammon Barker, the Coconino county attorney,said in a statement. “It also ensures that Mr Bateman will never again be in a position to harm a child.”

Federal authorities said Bateman traveled extensively among Arizona, Utah, Colorado and Nebraska as he built an offshoot network of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which historically has been based in the neighboring communities of Colorado City, Arizona, and Hildale, Utah.

He and his followers practiced polygamy, a legacy of the early teachings of the mainstream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which abandoned the practice in 1890 and now strictly prohibits it.

Bateman was one of the trusted followers of Jeffs, who previously led the sect and is serving a life sentence in Texas for sexual assault of children.

Bateman was the focus of the Netflix series Trust Me: The False Prophet.

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jergul
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Wed Aug 26 13:05:52
Dummy doubling down on stupid I see. Dont double down on stupid, dummy.
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