Utopia Talk / Politics / Swedish Public Transport

williamthebastard rank	Thu Jul 30 11:10:53 Have to go to Sweden for 3 weeks in January. A friend is letting me stay for free in an empty house he only lets in the summer. Its far off in the countryside, and only busses 4 times a day. I'll need to take the train a few times, and since there are so few busses there, you are allowed to book a cab and get your money back at the train station. Apart from busses and trains being 3 times cleaner and more comfortable than US planes, even cabs are part of the deal in situations where the state cant provide transport every 15 minutes.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Jul 30 13:04:58 Lol poor people getting around in poor people ways.
Rugian rank	Thu Jul 30 13:09:51 "The United States has a significantly higher rate of car ownership than Sweden, with about 850 to 865 vehicles per 1,000 people in the U.S. compared to roughly 470 to 544 vehicles per 1,000 people in Sweden. On a household level, about 88% of U.S. households own a car, while Swedish ownership rates trail lower per capita due to extensive public transit and urban design." ---- Aka, Swedish people are too poor to afford cars. RIP
jergul rank	Thu Jul 30 15:27:36 You think US people can afford cars better? Swedes are just not stupid enough to get cars they cant afford.
Rugian rank	Thu Jul 30 15:42:08 jergul Scandinavians writ large are serfs for their governments. You exist to create revenue for the state. There are some benefits to that arrangement. But the downside is that you have much less discretionary wealth.
jergul rank	Thu Jul 30 16:14:37 Ruggy Nope. Slaves are those imprinted with it through feudalism. We have trust based common wealth systems. You would not understand.
jergul rank	Thu Jul 30 16:15:33 "The personal household savings rate is roughly 3.0% in the United States and 4.9% in Norway"
jergul rank	Thu Jul 30 16:16:52 You also seem to conflate credit based consumer spending with "discretionary wealth".
jergul rank	Thu Jul 30 16:24:51 First quotation AI generated, as is the following: "The average credit card balance per consumer in the United States is approximately $6,659, with over half of cardholders carrying a revolving balance month-to-month. In contrast, Norway's median unsecured revolving credit card debt per person is roughly $1,964 (approx. 21,000 NOK), reflecting a culture where most credit card users pay balances in full to avoid high interest rates."
Sam Adams rank	Thu Jul 30 23:22:18 1) Norway is not sweden. obviously with its oil wealth Norway is in better shape than sweden. Norway is even comparable to mid-areas in the US, but is still outclassed by the richer parts of the US. 2) to the nonthinking herd animal I'm sure trains and buses are nice. Sure you can't get into the woods very well, it doesn't work half the day, you have to follow their schedules, everything takes 3x as long, moving anything more than 17 pounds(the average weight a European man can lift) is impossible and you are surrounded by retards and other scum at all times... But at least it eliminates all that scary independent thought. Plus they are poor and it's cheaper. 3) I love how wtb tries all these "gotchas" but it's really just him displaying how poor he/europe is.
murder rank	Thu Jul 30 23:32:47 "Scandinavians writ large are serfs for their governments. You exist to create revenue for the state." How is that any different from Americans? -
jergul rank	Fri Jul 31 00:41:34 Sammy Most of our oil and gas revenues go directly into the oil fund as foreign investment. We have yet to tap into the wealth. And yes, you are long overdue a currency adjustment. I figure the USD is worth between 33 and 50% of its current evaluation.
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