Utopia Talk / Politics / SpaceX Falcon Heavy launch

murder rank	Mon Apr 27 15:52:13 in ~ 30 minutes. -
murder rank	Mon Apr 27 16:15:25 ~ 5 minutes -
murder rank	Mon Apr 27 16:18:58 ~ 2 minutes -
murder rank	Mon Apr 27 16:21:39 Hold. Apparently no launch today. :o( -
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 27 18:05:52 For someone who claimed to be anti spaceflight you seem to be really into this shit;) to be fair rockets are indeed fucking awesome. I suggest making small rockets at home. Being that we live in the land of the free, ammonium perchlorate and potassium nitrate are readily available :)
murder rank	Tue Apr 28 12:28:35 Small rockets don't do it for me. I like massive earth shaking rockets. Even though I'm too far away to feel it. -
murder rank	Tue Apr 28 12:29:55 This launch has been rescheduled: April 29 @ 10:13 AM -
Sam Adams rank	Tue Apr 28 14:47:08 Hah fair. I've been fairly close to an old shuttle launch and it doesn't just shake the earth it shakes the sky and your soul too. Not quite gonna get there with your couple hundred newton backyard toy...
murder rank	Wed Apr 29 15:42:28 ~ 30 minutes until launch -
murder rank	Wed Apr 29 15:57:39 ~ 15 minutes -
murder rank	Wed Apr 29 16:11:04 ~ 2 minutes -
murder rank	Wed Apr 29 16:20:03 Perfect launch. -
murder rank	Wed Apr 29 16:25:36 The two side boosters (Falcon 9s) landed successfully. -
Habebe rank	Wed Apr 29 16:33:13 Caught a glimpse. I called out of work, oddly enough to save my job, tedious bureaucracy. SpaceX is the reason the US really is still in the lead with this shit.
murder rank	Wed Apr 29 16:50:36 The next big launch is Starship scheduled for sometime in May. -
Sam Adams rank	Wed Apr 29 17:22:42 The reliability on these falcons is unreal. Best launch platform ever so far.
murder rank	Wed Apr 29 21:41:19 Definitely. It's very rare for anything to go wrong with a Falcon 9. -
Sam Adams rank	Wed Apr 29 21:54:06 Starship on the other hand...
EuropeanPussy rank	Thu Apr 30 09:59:27 We have rockets, too! 30 minutes until start! https://www.youtube.com/live/H0zLzwGEhcg Flight VA268/LE-02 is now scheduled for April 30, 2026, within the following launch window: 04:08 – 04:57 (Washington, D.C.) 05:08 – 05:57 (Kourou) 08:08 – 08:57 (UTC) 10:08 – 10:57 (Paris) Ariane 6 is in the final phase of the launch campaign, with all systems ready to support launch on April 30. Launch preparations are complete and the payload composite, enclosing the 32 Amazon Leo satellites, has been successfully mated atop the launcher. The mission, called VA268 and LE-02 for Amazon Leo, will mark the second Ariane 6 launch dedicated to the deployment of the Amazon Leo constellation, within a series of 18. Equipped with four solid rocket boosters, Ariane 64 is the most powerful version of Ariane 6. For this mission, the launcher will carry the 32 satellites under its 20-meter-long fairing and deploy them into low Earth orbit following a mission lasting less than 2 hours from lift-off to separation of the last spacecraft.
Habebe rank	Thu Apr 30 15:03:19 So the current Falcon 9 has a 99.83% success rate. While China has "reusable" rockets in theory, they both crashed and exploded...... I'm really starting to think there is something to that culture, being good at copying, but still shitty at independent advancement.
Habebe rank	Thu Apr 30 15:04:43 ROFLMAO....AIs summary. SpaceX alone outperforms China's entire national space program in launch volume, maintains higher reliability, and has operational reusable rocket technology that China is still struggling to develop. The gap is widening, not closing.
TheChildren rank	Thu Apr 30 16:25:36 rofl clownericans launch volumes is irrelevant. u is jokin or wut. china = been 2 mars china = been 2 moon china = been 2 far side of moon (only country evar 2 do dis get owned lol) china = space station da most modern and most superioriez space station well at least it aint runnin on windows 98 like da intanational space station (keyword INTANATIONAL so not urs at all) china = numerous multi millioniez sateliez full coverage of earth 24/7 spacex = buys cybaflops dat sits on da parkin lots in da thousands...mostly unused. why they do dis? pyramid butbuuuutbuuut spaaceeey eksie voluummmes
Habebe rank	Thu Apr 30 17:07:32 How about making a reusable rocket?
murder rank	Thu Apr 30 18:18:07 "We have rockets, too!" Congratulations on the successful launch, Pussy! -
murder rank	Thu Apr 30 18:21:24 "butbuuuutbuuut spaaceeey eksie voluummmes" The commitment to the bit is impressive. Confusing, but impressive. -
TheChildren rank	Thu Apr 30 18:34:29 me muricant brothas from anotha woman not my motha..., u sound like ur in denial dis is da true state of da world right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGW8bQtcpJg u is still livin in 1990 where hogan is da maaaaaain event and dominatin every westla in da ring... now hogan is 65 aka ur country got old and u still think u da man, all u gotta do is ovadose on them roids some more....yyyyeeeaaaa maccccho maaaan and hogaaan is not how da world works though. and we kno hogan died from "old age" years of roid abuse, not 2 long after. da real world and real realities is not 1990. it is where china has vastly surpassed u long ago alrdy but u still clueless bout it coz years of propfunda done a numba on ur brain. what is da true state of da world. da true state is where a 70k chinese car completely dominates a 700k ferrari... but u still livin in da world where hogaaaan is da maaaaain eveeeent, where will smith enemy of da stateeee showed ur superior militariez capabilitaties and shit... dat shit is old outdated gen capabititlies compared 2 china has nowadays. dat is da real world
TheChildren rank	Thu Apr 30 18:38:14 da real world is where if a bridge collapses in ur country...it takes 30 years 2 rebuild it at 5x da cost... da real world is where a simple boat can collapse ur bridge coz it hasnt been maintained in 50 years...plus da construction was 1950 methods and shits aka muricanesium i kno is hard and shit...but ur leaders abandonned u long ago and rule 4 da sake of rulin and playin colonialism on da rest of da world. they do not and neva cared bout da rest of u i thought da pstain files alrdy showed dis da rot is in every layer of ur societiez
Habebe rank	Fri May 01 04:32:39 Listen if you want to brag about shipbuilding, by all means east asia in general has alot to brag about. Suddenly volume gets bragging rights. Honestly, I was skeptical when Obama pushed privatized space, but apparently he was right.
TheChildren rank	Fri May 01 08:58:37 hey u said it i didnt rofl and dats not good comparison. dis is apples and oranges u is doing. shipbuildin and ur space launches is not da same shit period if it is same shit, then how come u dunt gotta space stations, space ships, space shuttles, space navies, space flyin thingies and shit gtfo here with dis bs u is launchin and relaunchin rockets. so fuckin wut.
jergul rank	Fri May 01 09:12:40 Habebe China is pwning Musk on robotics. And will pwn him on reusable boosters. Just a matter of time. As to copying. This whole thing started with Von Braun's stolen blueprints. Stealing is just what great powers do.
Seb rank	Fri May 01 13:09:04 China is busy building the future while the US is going down the track the UK went of trying to retreat into an imagined past. And yes, Boston Dynamics and Spacex can say they did it first. Cf. Swan and Eddison
Seb rank	Fri May 01 13:11:57 I.e. China will be the ones to bring it to the mass market at consumer grade tolerances and price points and transform the economy with it. The US version of capitalism doesn't put enough emphasis on competition and overly rewards rent seeking.
Habebe rank	Fri May 01 15:49:36 So your all basically admitting SpaceX>everyone else. Feel free to change the goal post, live vicariously through a foreign power because Euro space was overpriced and outmatched. But give credit where credit is due.
jergul rank	Fri May 01 16:31:24 habebe AI is also wrong. 4 have failed including one destroyed pre-launch. 590 of 634 have actually landed. Less than 590 are of course reusable. In 2023, only 4 of 91 launches reused a recovered 1st stage. As is always with Musk. It is all hype and little content. I dont know how 590 of 634 compares to other heavy booster though. I am sure we could find out.
jergul rank	Fri May 01 16:32:24 Sorry 630 of 634*
jergul rank	Fri May 01 16:40:30 2025: 324 orbital launches (13 failures), equating to a 96% success rate. AI. That number includes Falcon...so its failure rate is way lower than industrial averages for heavy lifters. Something like 6 times less. In real numbers though, it is less impressive. Other operators will launch 94/100 into space and SpaceX 99/100. What practical difference is it for unmanned flights with a 6% failure rate and a 1% failure rate? More expensive per successful launch, sure. But it does not indicate dominance. The recovery aspect is all hype it seems. Source for all this is AI and Wiki.
Sam Adams rank	Fri May 01 21:14:02 Lol jergul math why would you say something so retarded.
jergul rank	Fri May 01 21:35:31 lol, its sammy the antisemite (CC has good ideas). Rofl. GG.
Sam Adams rank	Fri May 01 22:10:28 Lol another absolutely retarded thing to say.
jergul rank	Sat May 02 00:36:57 It has layers you racist antisemite. First off, you classify all jewish people as genocidal, landgrabbing ultranationalist warcriminals of the likes we hung at Nurenburg. It is almost impossible to imagine a more antisemitic stance.
Sam Adams rank	Sat May 02 00:39:10 ^Iq negative
jergul rank	Sat May 02 00:47:30 ^Does not understand how standarized iq works. Dummy.
Habebe rank	Sat May 02 04:17:24 Jergul, I asked Claude to compare SpaceX and Chinese launch success and details, it spit out this. --------- Based on current data, here's the comparison between SpaceX and China's space launch programs: Launch Volume SpaceX dominates by a massive margin: 2024: SpaceX conducted 134 Falcon family launches (Wikipedia) 2025: SpaceX launched 154 rockets (Data Explained) 2026: As of April 29, SpaceX has conducted 52 Falcon family launches (Wikipedia) China's total national output: 2023: 67 launches (66 successful) (Space Daily) 2024: 68 launches (66 successful) (Space Daily) 2025: 91 launches total (Magazine) The US has made more than twice that many flights as China so far in 2025, flying more than 160 times by the beginning of November, with SpaceX leading the charge with more than 140 launches (Payloadspace) . Success Rate SpaceX maintains exceptional reliability: Falcon 9 family: 99.53% success rate overall with 641 successes out of 644 launches (Wikipedia) Falcon 9 Block 5 (current version): 99.83% success rate (Wikipedia) Currently on a streak of 148 consecutive successful missions since July 2024 failure (NASASpaceFlight) Previous record: 335 consecutive successful launches (Wikipedia) China shows strong but slightly lower reliability: 2024 saw three launch failures (two commercial, one partial failure) (Substack) 2025: 96% success rate with 311 successes out of 324 total orbital launches globally (Magazine) Long March series historically around 95% success rate, improving in recent years Reusability SpaceX leads the world in reusable technology: Falcon boosters have successfully landed 604 times in 617 attempts (Wikipedia) 54 boosters have flown multiple missions, with a record of 34 missions by booster B1067 (Wikipedia) 84.28% of Falcon launches use reused boosters (Elonx) China is still developing reusability: In December 2025, China debuted two new reusable rockets (ZQ 3 and Long March 12A), but both first-stage recovery attempts ended in crashes and explosions (Space Daily) China tried to narrow the gap with the United States in reusable launch technology, but without success so far (Magazine) Cost & Cadence SpaceX advantages: Falcon 9 costs reduced from $67 million in 2010 to under $30 million in 2025 (Data Explained) In 2025, SpaceX launched around 2,400 tonnes to orbit (Wikipedia) Launch cadence as frequent as every 1-2 days China's approach: CASC's Long March rockets account for about three-quarters of all Chinese launches (SpaceNews) Growing commercial sector with companies like CAS Space, Galactic Energy 2023: $833 million of social capital invested in commercial aerospace (Global Times) Bottom line: SpaceX alone outperforms China's entire national space program in launch volume, maintains higher reliability, and has operational reusable rocket technology that China is still struggling to develop. The gap is widening, not closing.
TheChildren rank	Sat May 02 07:34:21 u is wrong again
jergul rank	Sat May 02 11:01:10 Habebe The bullshit line there is from elonx. 54 boosters have flown multiple missions. Of 617. That is not an 84,28% reuse rate (elonx). It matters a lot. Low reuse rates mean that aspect of the programme is pure hype.
jergul rank	Sat May 02 11:04:47 There are other things spacex does really well. Key savings point is kerosene. So much cheaper than hydrogen.
jergul rank	Sat May 02 11:57:12 One way to know it is hype is that SpaceX produces reusable primary boosters and single use 2nd booster on a 1:1 ratio. There is no production savings to be had.
jergul rank	Sat May 02 12:02:54 On the business model. Starlink drives 60% of Falcon-9 revenue streams. So, sure, launch volume is high as Starlink continues to saturate leo. But there is a saturation point where volume will fall to replacement levels. On the longer term, Spacex desperately needs to hype government funding on something big in space. For example Mars or moon bases in order to perpetuate revenue streams. How it will play out? Who knows.
jergul rank	Sat May 02 12:06:51 66% rather. So 2/3rds of launches are for starlink and 70% of 1 trillion valuation (AI) is linked to starlink. Remember that starlink is owned by spacex, as are the falcon-9 launchers. So, well, the market for spacex launches is dominated by spacex as a customer.
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