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murder
rank Wed Apr 22 15:27:37
With Virginia vote, Democrats gain edge over Trump's national GOP redistricting push

As time runs out before the midterm elections, Virginia took a step on Tuesday to counter and possibly surpass President Trump's national effort to redraw congressional voting maps in favor of the GOP.

Read it here: https://ww...ng-map-trump-midterms-congress

murder
rank Wed Apr 22 15:29:05

“This referendum is a blatant partisan power grab that nobody’s really ever seen anything like it,” Trump said one day before the Virginia referendum.

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He's never seen anything like it!

*eyeroll*

Habebe
rank Wed Apr 22 15:42:48
It is blatant gerrymandering.

Meh, both sides do it, both sides give excuses.

I don't really think the left needs it this round.

Rugian
rank Wed Apr 22 15:43:48
More accurately...51% of the voters decided to give themselves 91% of the congressional delegation.

That ballot question was also deceptive as hell...there's probably going to be a lawsuit over that.

All of this spearheaded by a Democratic governor who ran as a "moderate" in the election who was explicitly opposed to gerrymandering, only to become a hardcore leftwing nutjob who loves gerrymandering now that she's in office.

Trump only has himself to blame for getting the ball rolling on this gerrymandering craze...but what the VA Democrats did is pure bullshit.

murder
rank Wed Apr 22 16:43:02

"More accurately...51% of the voters decided to give themselves 91% of the congressional delegation."

That's not really how it works. That's not how math maths.

The Democrats increased their chances in some districts while making themselves more vulnerable in others.

This could backfire spectacularly.

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murder
rank Wed Apr 22 17:03:11

"It is blatant gerrymandering."

Dumbshit started this.

I'm sure Florida will be next.

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Rugian
rank Wed Apr 22 17:25:18
"That's not really how it works. That's not how math maths."

Um...that's exactly how the Democrats think it works. That map that's been floating around shows 10 out of 11 districts as leaning (D), up from 6 out of 11 before.

Obviously an election can go a way they don't expect it to...but based on their expectations, they clearly are looking to pick up 4 seats.

tumbleweed
rank Wed Apr 22 18:34:35
Trump literally is the reason it all started when he asked Texas to do it (plus specifically primaried the Indiana people who didn't go along w/ it)

(& California & Virginia at least offered people a chance to vote on it)

as always, Trump is the worst offender (& cause of bad things)

tumbleweed
rank Wed Apr 22 19:50:40
the disease:
"
A RIGGED ELECTION TOOK PLACE LAST NIGHT IN THE GREAT COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA! All day long Republicans were winning, the Spirit was unbelievable, until the very end when, of course, there was a massive “Mail In Ballot Drop!” Where have I heard that before — And the Democrats eked out another Crooked Victory! Six to five goes to ten to one, and yet the Presidential Election in November was very close to a 50-50 split. In addition to everything else, the language on the Referendum was purposefully unintelligible and deceptive. As everyone knows, I am an extraordinarily brilliant person, and even I had no idea what the hell they were talking about in the Referendum, and neither do they! Let’s see if the Courts will fix this travesty of “Justice.” President DONALD J. TRUMP
"

(searching for the language that 'extraordinarily brilliant' Trump couldn't remotely understand, i found this as the 'proposed' language:

"Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?"

not sure if that was final language or not)

tumbleweed
rank Wed Apr 22 20:05:23
order of events:

- Texas (for Trump w/ him publicly demanding it) - Aug 2025
- Missouri (for Trump) - Sep 2025
- North Carolina (for Trump) - Oct 2025

- California (for sanity) - Nov 2025
- Virginia (for sanity) - Apr 2026

Florida coming up (for Trump)

the asshole is clear

Pillz
rank Wed Apr 22 21:12:13
Hang everyone who voted for it, as well as any elected official associated with the referendum

Rugian
rank Wed Apr 22 21:34:58
Also..Indiana is not gerrymandering their state, but on May 5 the GOP gets to purge all of the Republican legislators who made that decision.

A purely punitive measure that doesn't change anything, it just sends the message of what happens when you don't play ball with Trump.

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murder rank	Wed Apr 22 15:27:37 With Virginia vote, Democrats gain edge over Trump's national GOP redistricting push As time runs out before the midterm elections, Virginia took a step on Tuesday to counter and possibly surpass President Trump's national effort to redraw congressional voting maps in favor of the GOP. Read it here: https://ww...ng-map-trump-midterms-congress
murder rank	Wed Apr 22 15:29:05 “This referendum is a blatant partisan power grab that nobody’s really ever seen anything like it,” Trump said one day before the Virginia referendum. --- He's never seen anything like it! eyeroll
Habebe rank	Wed Apr 22 15:42:48 It is blatant gerrymandering. Meh, both sides do it, both sides give excuses. I don't really think the left needs it this round.
Rugian rank	Wed Apr 22 15:43:48 More accurately...51% of the voters decided to give themselves 91% of the congressional delegation. That ballot question was also deceptive as hell...there's probably going to be a lawsuit over that. All of this spearheaded by a Democratic governor who ran as a "moderate" in the election who was explicitly opposed to gerrymandering, only to become a hardcore leftwing nutjob who loves gerrymandering now that she's in office. Trump only has himself to blame for getting the ball rolling on this gerrymandering craze...but what the VA Democrats did is pure bullshit.
murder rank	Wed Apr 22 16:43:02 "More accurately...51% of the voters decided to give themselves 91% of the congressional delegation." That's not really how it works. That's not how math maths. The Democrats increased their chances in some districts while making themselves more vulnerable in others. This could backfire spectacularly. -
murder rank	Wed Apr 22 17:03:11 "It is blatant gerrymandering." Dumbshit started this. I'm sure Florida will be next. -
Rugian rank	Wed Apr 22 17:25:18 "That's not really how it works. That's not how math maths." Um...that's exactly how the Democrats think it works. That map that's been floating around shows 10 out of 11 districts as leaning (D), up from 6 out of 11 before. Obviously an election can go a way they don't expect it to...but based on their expectations, they clearly are looking to pick up 4 seats.
tumbleweed rank	Wed Apr 22 18:34:35 Trump literally is the reason it all started when he asked Texas to do it (plus specifically primaried the Indiana people who didn't go along w/ it) (& California & Virginia at least offered people a chance to vote on it) as always, Trump is the worst offender (& cause of bad things)
tumbleweed rank	Wed Apr 22 19:50:40 the disease: " A RIGGED ELECTION TOOK PLACE LAST NIGHT IN THE GREAT COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA! All day long Republicans were winning, the Spirit was unbelievable, until the very end when, of course, there was a massive “Mail In Ballot Drop!” Where have I heard that before — And the Democrats eked out another Crooked Victory! Six to five goes to ten to one, and yet the Presidential Election in November was very close to a 50-50 split. In addition to everything else, the language on the Referendum was purposefully unintelligible and deceptive. As everyone knows, I am an extraordinarily brilliant person, and even I had no idea what the hell they were talking about in the Referendum, and neither do they! Let’s see if the Courts will fix this travesty of “Justice.” President DONALD J. TRUMP " (searching for the language that 'extraordinarily brilliant' Trump couldn't remotely understand, i found this as the 'proposed' language: "Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?" not sure if that was final language or not)
tumbleweed rank	Wed Apr 22 20:05:23 order of events: - Texas (for Trump w/ him publicly demanding it) - Aug 2025 - Missouri (for Trump) - Sep 2025 - North Carolina (for Trump) - Oct 2025 - California (for sanity) - Nov 2025 - Virginia (for sanity) - Apr 2026 Florida coming up (for Trump) the asshole is clear
Pillz rank	Wed Apr 22 21:12:13 Hang everyone who voted for it, as well as any elected official associated with the referendum
Rugian rank	Wed Apr 22 21:34:58 Also..Indiana is not gerrymandering their state, but on May 5 the GOP gets to purge all of the Republican legislators who made that decision. A purely punitive measure that doesn't change anything, it just sends the message of what happens when you don't play ball with Trump.
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