Utopia Talk / Politics / Khakenai dead, Seb and Parafag in tears

Asgard rank	Sat Feb 28 16:03:44 Oh biy, who will they admire now?
Asgard rank	Sat Feb 28 16:04:03 Khamenai* Who cares
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Feb 28 16:12:44 Is the Shah now the new king of Iran?
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 17:18:05 Assfag
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 17:27:09 Asgard: I mean sure - why not pretend I support Khameini. It's not like you have honesty, integrity or honour to lose.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 18:40:15 Lol Seb the pedo importer and constant liar talking about honor and integrity.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 18:56:31 NaMBLA: Why don't you go back to explaining how CSAM is harmless political speech.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 19:54:40 Lol why don't you cry and scream more about the genocide. Pedo and antisemite.
obaminated rank	Sat Feb 28 20:15:44 Seb literally wants iran to win.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 21:07:59 Seb is gonna cry lol.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 21:14:42 Rumors of the ayatollas death are getting stronger.
Renzo Marquez rank	Sat Feb 28 21:27:14 Seb rank Sat Feb 28 18:56:31 "Why don't you go back to explaining how CSAM is harmless political speech." There may people who can make this sort of insult. You are not one of them. You support importing infinity Pakis to gangrape white British girls.
Hrothgar rank	Sat Feb 28 21:58:16 Oh he's dead almost assuredly. Also, so far, the Iranian response has been limp as hell. Not even a few massive barrages like we saw the last time. Give it a few more days to see if they have something significant stored up, but right now it's looking like they really didn't rebuild much after last summer's war. In Seb's defense, you guys take his fairly moderate anti-imperialist attitude and make him out like he's some kind of frothing at the mouth "hate everything about the west" marxist. I've never seen him defend Khamenai the dictator. On a side note, this feels like we're on spiral toward nation state enemies just open range killing eachother's political leaders does it not?
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 22:04:05 Renzo: Idiotic fuckwits spouting far right propaganda funny get to determine who can say what, except musk on X. Obaminated: Incorrect. I don't believe in affirmations: I merely observe that the US is unlikely to achieve effective regime change. Hrothgar: Half the time they complain precisely because I do support interventions. My only issues with attacking Iran is there was no particular need to, and its more likely to go badly wrong.
Seb rank	Sat Feb 28 22:04:37 "On a side note, this feels like we're on spiral toward nation state enemies just open range killing eachother's political leaders does it not?" Yup.
Paramount rank	Sat Feb 28 22:35:37 It’s likely just zionist propaganda. The pedo terrorists does not know where he is, so they are making this statement in the hope that the Iranians will say or do something that will reveal his position.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 22:48:20 "this feels like we're on spiral toward nation state enemies just open range killing eachother's political leaders does it not? " Good. That's the way it should be. Political leaders can suffer their own consequences instead of tons of civilians and 18 year old soldiers. "the US is unlikely to achieve effective regime change. " Lol seb you pedo retard the ayatolla was dead before you typed this.
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 00:40:40 "Rumors of the ayatollas death are getting stronger." He's not dead. He's just resting. -
Habebe rank	Sun Mar 01 00:42:03 So not surprisingly, MBS/Saudi andnthe UAE have pledged full solidarity against Iran.
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 00:42:35 "On a side note, this feels like we're on spiral toward nation state enemies just open range killing eachother's political leaders does it not?" If we're lucky. -
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 00:44:13 "So not surprisingly, MBS/Saudi andnthe UAE have pledged full solidarity against Iran." No kidding? You mean all those US bases in the middle east aren't just for decorative purposes? -
Habebe rank	Sun Mar 01 00:44:26 Agrees with Sam, better to take out a few at dinner than thousands in the field. Im curious how the Saudi coalition plays into this. Having local military allies hopefully can get this done and over quickly.
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 00:46:23 "Having local military allies hopefully can get this done and over quickly." What do you think has been going on? -
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 00:47:27 NaMBLA: Yes, and he's likely been dead all day. Along with a fair few other senior leaders. So... who has been launching all these missiles? Why hasn't peace broken out and the newly liberated Iran immediately unilaterally surrendered to the US and Israel and begun discussing mineral deals? Khameini isn't the regime and his death is no more regime change than Trump keeling over would represent regime change in the US. Are you really so clueless?
Habebe rank	Sun Mar 01 00:51:51 Murder, Ive basically gotten all my info about the situation from skimming this board. US/Israel striked at Iran and they have been launching missiles back?
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 00:52:40 Habebe: That works in feudal societies. It doesn't work on administrative states. You may have noticed that Khameini likely died in the first seconds, and yet look, the guys in the field are still fighting and people are still dying. The problem is when you kill the people in charge of an administrative state, you kill the people that can stop things; so unless you have a plan to end a conflict it tends to keep it spinning. Like if a suitcase nuke took out all the US leadership in DC, will the US just suddenly grind to a halt? Or will planned contingency take over for retaliation *with literally nobody in authority to call them off* until a new civilian leadership gets sorted out? It's the latter I'm afraid. Game of thrones is a fantasy book, not Clausewitz.
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 01:00:12 Decapitation can still be a good tactic - but what's Israeli or US strategy here? There isn't one, it's too leaders in deep political and legal trouble trying to use a war to avoid jail.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 01:07:06 "with literally nobody in authority to call them off" Seb always coming up with a lame excuse to not act. You must be at least part French. "but what's Israeli or US strategy here?" Kill the ayatolla, replace him with someone friendly, with the assistance of millions of Iranian protesters Lmfao dunce why is it so hard for you.
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 01:07:46 "US/Israel striked at Iran and they have been launching missiles back?" Yes, but what I mean is all those gulf states have been supporting this attack and the previous ones this whole time. -
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 01:15:02 Qatar was against it. UAE was all for it, along with Bahrain and Jordan. Unclear on Saudis, Pakistanis though I suspect they were for it.
obaminated rank	Sun Mar 01 01:41:45 The Persians want the shah.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 02:13:27 Ya the half of Iran that's cool is all for it too obviously.
obaminated rank	Sun Mar 01 02:21:29 Sebs desperately want iran to fall apart. Hey seb, what are your morals?
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 02:58:23 "Qatar was against it." Of course they were. That huge US base is there as a jobs program for the locals. -
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 04:19:05 Wapo reporting that Saudi was all for it but that's wapo so who knows. I'm pretty sure Pakistan wanted it to. "Our list of allies grows thin" Khamenei just before an Israeli bunker buster sprouted out of his ass.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 04:24:46 Of course now that Iran just shot at the most important parts of each neighbor, they are pretty much all for it. The far left temper tantrum is also pretty muted so far. Most people realize the ayatolla had it coming.
jergul rank	Sun Mar 01 04:25:01 The US decapitated the equivalent of the leader of the US Supreme Court with religious connetations. All it does is piss off people.
jergul rank	Sun Mar 01 04:26:18 Pakistan just wants it nuclear stuff back I imagine.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 04:28:05 Lol jergul is in butthurt denial. Glorious.
jergul rank	Sun Mar 01 04:31:52 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadiq_Larijani That is the new guy. As if Iran does not have rules for succession when you kill a religious figure. I just hope the Pope is never killed. How would the EU survive the power vaccuum that would ensue?
jergul rank	Sun Mar 01 04:33:08 It will be fine Sammy. I am sure your ground force invasion will compell regime change.
jergul rank	Sun Mar 01 04:39:14 At least Asgard does not think I am in tears. As an oil trustfund baby, I am all in favour of disrupting oil supplies :)
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 04:50:17 If we kill enough of them eventually we'll get to the mossad guy and he can run the country for us.
jergul rank	Sun Mar 01 05:59:21 Sure. It certainly worked in your case. Mossad has done a swell job running your country for Israel.
jergul rank	Sun Mar 01 06:01:36 The Mossad dude could like reconfirm the Fatwa the guy you killed and put on prohibiting the development of nuclear weapons.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 06:26:18 Iranian ship was torpeded by a us sub. Things are getting old school. Downright medieval.
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