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Rugian
rank | Tue Dec 30 21:50:04 2025 Matt Gaetz, former Trump AG pick, had sex with underage girl while in Congress, House Ethics report says The House Ethics Committee on Monday revealed it found “substantial evidence” that former Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz had sex with a 17-year-old girl in 2017 and that he “regularly” paid women for sex, all while he was in Congress. The panel, in a final report on its yearslong investigation into Gaetz, also found that he used illegal drugs, including cocaine and ecstasy, on multiple occasions between 2017 and 2019. Gaetz also accepted gifts, including a 2018 trip to the Bahamas, “in excess of permissible amounts,” the bipartisan committee concluded. “Representative Gaetz has acted in a manner that reflects discreditably upon the House,” the 42-page report said. The committee said it found “substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules, state and federal laws, and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, acceptance of impermissible gifts, the provision of special favors and privileges, and obstruction of Congress.” http://www...-drug-report-house-ethics.html |
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Rugian
rank | Tue Dec 30 21:55:55 2025 Just a reminder to anyone defending Trump and his fellow cronies/Epstein buddies: you're supporting some absolute pieces of shit. Later :) |
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Forwyn
rank | Tue Dec 30 22:05:33 2025 Sometimes whores lie. Who cares? |
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williamthebastard
rank | Tue Dec 30 22:14:30 2025 Ah, the moral conservatives. Call the underage victim a whore and dismiss her with who cares if our elected politicians are pedophiles and who cares about their underage victims as long as Ive got mine. The party of shockingly corrupt pedophiles, the party jesus would damn to hell |
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Rugian
rank | Tue Dec 30 22:15:06 2025 Defending overt criminal behavior does seem to be the MO of this administration (provided that the perpetrator is a friend of the president)...but that doesn't mean that the rest of us need to enthusiastically jump on board the "crime is now legal" bandwagon. If we were to criticize bad behavior when a Democrat did it, we should do so when a Republican does as well. |
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williamthebastard
rank | Tue Dec 30 22:15:13 2025 You utterly debased, filthy little pedo-cunt. |
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Forwyn
rank | Tue Dec 30 23:51:02 2025 "victim" > actively pursues the engagement > lies about age Yeah boohoo. I criticized these honey pot whores when they nabbed Cody Wilson, too. If the dude banged fifty prostitutes and one happened to be 17 because she lied, I give zero fucks if no coercion took place. |
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williamthebastard
rank | Wed Dec 31 00:13:17 2025 Forwyn is the cunt the local prostitutes warn each other about because he likes to punch them into a bloody mess and justifies it with "Hey, they chose their jobs". He only does that on the weekends though, because weekdays he likes to preach about he and his filthy pedo-worshiping buddies believe in family values and christian compassion more than any other people on the planet |
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Forwyn
rank | Wed Dec 31 00:41:11 2025 Only one of us has openly bragged about punching a random person who didn't deserve it, and it wasn't me. For the record, prostitutes shouldn't be abused for their profession. But being paid for sex isn't abuse, it's the occupational definition. Sex work is real work, they say. |
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Forwyn
rank | Wed Dec 31 00:45:01 2025 These are the same retards who laugh when you complain about roving gangs of "youths" running around victimizing people, then when a person smacks one they scream child abuse and demand the state step in and punish them because the "victim" was 37 days shy of their birthday. I'm sure CC could deliver an eloquent monologue on the ideologies that leads to such vicious, subhuman victim mentality. |
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Habebe
rank | Wed Dec 31 01:27:07 2025 When I was 20 I slept with my 17yr old roommate. 6 days before she turned 18, I was 20 at the time IIRC. I ended up dating her 3 times. |
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Habebe
rank | Wed Dec 31 01:28:12 2025 It also sparked my life long preference for black. women. |
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Pillz
rank | Wed Dec 31 02:58:58 2025 I think at this point we can conclude that anyone who achieves corporate, financial, entertainment, or political success is probably a pathological criminal and sexual deviant. When we consider the propensity for sociopaths and psychopaths to excel in structured competitive environments, and then we consider how strictly we've structured institutions and organizations and laws and regulations, it is not much of a stretch to imagine that, frankly, we've just elevated the absolute worst humanity has to offer to the highest echelons of society and government. |
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Dukhat
rank | Wed Dec 31 06:01:46 2025 Foreskin has kids and is a pedophile enabler. What a piece of human shit. |
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Average Ameriacn
rank | Wed Dec 31 06:12:38 2025 Trump had forgiven him, so we should do the same. |
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Forwyn
rank | Wed Dec 31 16:47:11 2025 17. Lol cry more. Your ilk want to give them a right to vote. Fucking requires less mental agency. |
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Dukhat
rank | Wed Dec 31 19:14:30 2025 I know what Forwyn looks like so Imma target his kids and when his daughter turns 17 pay her for sex. I'm sure he'll be so proud as a dad. |
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Habebe
rank | Wed Dec 31 19:45:24 2025 Dukhat, Probably no more than if she was 18 though. |
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Forwyn
rank | Wed Dec 31 21:10:06 2025 Cherub Cow rank Mon Oct 27 13:55:52 "he....wishes to have sexual access to the people that he claims to hate. That is a large motivating factor of slavish leftism: they feel denied sexual access and can only achieve it through mutilation and mass-rape." |
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Pillz
rank | Wed Dec 31 23:24:11 2025 The hypocrisy of leftists condemning child abuse or sex with minors after they've spent decades brain washing youth into traumatizing themselves with gay experimentation and championing physical mutilation and chemical castration of minors is just wild. We should send all the leftists to south Africa. |
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murder
rank | Thu Jan 01 01:58:12 MAGA 2016: "We have to protect the children!!!" MAGA 2025: "Fuck the children!!!" - |
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Pillz
rank | Thu Jan 01 01:59:50 Have to swing dem voters over to MAGA somehow |
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Cherub Cow
rank | Thu Jan 01 16:28:19 [Rugian]: "Just a reminder to anyone defending Trump and his fellow cronies/Epstein buddies: you're supporting some absolute pieces of shit." [Forwyn]: "I criticized these honey pot whores when they nabbed Cody Wilson, too. [/] If the dude banged fifty prostitutes and one happened to be 17 because she lied, I give zero fucks if no coercion took place." Yeah it's all about scale. For instance, is [[Gaetz being ensnared by a 17-year-old prostitute lying about her age as a honey pot]] as big of an issue as [["Christian" Zio-Cuck faggots selling Western nations to pro-enslavement jewish international Bolsheviks using faggoty intermediaries such as a pro-DeSantis-Cuck position]]? Obviously not. Meanwhile, should Gaetz be supported (in a general sense) because he is against subversive jews and those Zio-Cuck faggots? Yes. Should he be (internally) rebuked for his vices while not giving the jew or other enemies of the West any similar leverage/power of rebuke? Yes; only the Ultra-Violent Western Right should critique him for his vices while realizing that it does at least say something that rather than being blackmailed by the jew he continued to realize that the international jew is evil despite these allegations (i.e., he did not cave to the jew to make this scandal disappear). Gaetz, MTG, Massie, and Boebert are some of the few representatives against enslavement to the jew, and with MTG stepping down, we have very few actual Americans in positions of power. We are surrounded by traitors, though none of them are immune to bullets. And who, instead, would be implicated by the report's statement "has acted in a manner that reflects discreditably upon the House"? Well, anyone who took AIPAC money in exchange for policy, sent foreign aid to "Israel" or Ukraine, or who uses their position to advocate for non-European-ancestry foreign nations or the jew's poisoned mtDNA (e.g., for "Israel", for Somalia, for India). Basically, all Democrat politicians should be disenfranchised and/or deported (I don't even think they're American), and many of the treasonous "right" who supported enslavement to the jew will need to be hanged by the neck until dead and their families denied all access to power, since their children were likely bred to be jewish slaves and thus cannot be trusted for at least a generation though probably three. I would wager that anyone who met a spouse and had children while serving the jew as some *central* purpose of life (e.g., as a Christian Zionist who stupidly and slavishly believes that blessing the jew is to bless his own life) likely made a choice in partner that serves the genetic outcomes favorable to the jew, and jews only breed slaves to serve their twisted fantasies of messianic totalitarianism. That is, they likely chose partners most likely to produce jewish slaves (e.g.; see Zio-Cuck Joel Berry, who feels his family is his success but who was bred to be a slave and breeds more slaves). (Such a person would want to recover from that mistake by teaching his children to serve no masters.) Whereas, a true Greatness of the West is that we breed anti-enslavement lovers of Ultra-Violence, defiant like Rorschach even in the face of Armageddon, as, for example, invigorated by ancestral stories of Ulysses, who, in observance of «xenia», gave the suitors and the maids their final chances to show a love of Ithaca, and when they failed the test they met their just ends. The jew has overstayed his welcome and tyrannized Ithaca, and these little blackmail games against politicians who oppose the jew are now seen for exactly what they are: they want us to attack their foreign targets around "Greater Israel" while hamstringing us from denying those same foreign destroyers access to our Western nations. They get Greater Israel, and we get orcs in the shire who are commanded by dwarves (jews) to brutalize us. The deal that the Zio-Cucks took with Sauron/Saruman while acting as Wormtongue was that the dwarves (jews) would have their Lonely Mountain ("Israel") if the West could destroy the rising Eastern powers when these Eastern lands emptied, but the jews have all turned into greedy Thorin and gone back on any such deal, instead demanding that the West be destroyed while they sit in their fortress breeding orcs who follow them. And their diaspora (Gimili), rather than fight alongside us, sabotage us just like they did while working as gremlins in Western WWII factories. American Patriots who stand against foreign intervention have effectively offered Thorin a chance to do the right thing, and they respond by blackmailing and minimizing every Ron Paul, Gaetz, Boebert, Massie, and MTG for decades. Greedy Thorin wants the whole pie. They want no exchange where they get "Israel" and we get the West; they want the West destroyed because they believe they now command the slave armies of the East and can use them to purge defiance from the West. So if an ounce of Gaetz stands against that and is fueled by prostitution and cocaine, then let's solve this by making sure that his prostitutes carry their birth certificates and that his cocaine is American-grown. Gaetz is one of the last moderates, and the people coming after him will not be making deals with Thorin anymore. |
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Rugian
rank | Thu Jan 01 22:56:25 Forwyn Surely we can do better than the likes of Matt Gaetz for the men and women chosen to lead our government. He was not a skilled politician while in office and he is certainly not a good human being. "But he says some things on the issues that I agree with" is not enough of a reason to blindly support him. Habebe See, you were 20 and she was 17. It would have been a little different if you were 35 and she was a 17-year-old prostitute. CC I think you're in the wrong Age there. Gaetz is more evocative of the late-stage corruption that destroyed Numenor, as the people cast their backs on the beliefs and principles that had made them great in the first place...instead turning to hateful charlatans who led them falsely with smooth words and deceptive promises of everlasting life and power. Gaetz even shares their obsession with chasing eternal youth based on the amount of plastic surgery he's gotten. He certainly does not remind me of an incorruptible solder of the West fighting bravely against the forces of darkness. I think LOTR would have been much less of a compelling tale if Aragon had spent half the trilogy sniffing lines of coke off the asses of underage Gondor hookers. |
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Rugian
rank | Thu Jan 01 23:01:36 Like be honest. When he was in office, were any of you seriously thinking "what an intelligent, capable, and honest man Matt is." None of you did. You thought he was a wildcard idiot bomb-thrower who occasionally said things you liked. |
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murder
rank | Fri Jan 02 00:23:43 Edit: MAGA 2016: "We have to protect the children!!!" MAGA 2026: "We can fuck the children!!! You can't!!!" - |
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Habebe
rank | Fri Jan 02 01:16:34 Rugian, Yeah I get it. Plus again, she was 6 days shy of 18. Answer me this though, would you care if she was 18? 17 just seems right on the line, so yes, I think at the very least it's less bad than say diddling 12 year Olds, ya know....that's a whole different level of wrong. And I'm not defending this because it's Gaetz |
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Habebe
rank | Fri Jan 02 01:17:24 I definitely always got a vibe he got high btw. |
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Rugian
rank | Fri Jan 02 02:21:22 Habebe I care that he's a Congressman who was banging prostitutes and snorting lines. The fact that she was literally half his age and (technically) illegal just makes it all the more icky. Call me crazy, but I really do remember a time when we had SOME standards for public servants, being as they're representatives of the people and all. |
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Habebe
rank | Fri Jan 02 03:09:14 I feel like.the US populace DGAF anymore. Your talking about days when people didn't wear pj's to Walmart and millions of women weren't posting close up selfies of their buttons blinking on SM. |
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Forwyn
rank | Fri Jan 02 03:26:01 "he's a Congressman" Except he's not. He hasn't been in office for almost a year. So forgive me for not grabbing a pitchfork alongside the other hypocritically indignant leftists. |
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Rugian
rank | Fri Jan 02 03:52:26 Forwyn An ex-congressman who should probably still be going to jail in a more perfect world. I hope the politicized campaign to imprison Trump hasn't caused you to dismiss out of hand every legitimate investigation into someone with an R next to their name. |
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Pillz
rank | Fri Jan 02 04:03:35 Have you ever had to tackle cleaning up a total wall to wall disaster? You clean in sections. Usually the most egregious mess first. Draining the swamp is the same principle. Once the Democrats are wiped out and reformed into a proper party, work can begin on prosecution of wayward Republicans. |
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Cherub Cow
rank | Fri Jan 02 12:44:06 [Rugian]: "I think you're in the wrong Age there." Absolute faggotry of a deflection and not even correct, faggot. It's funny how Zio-Cuck faggots always sound like jews when it's time to defend jewish evil. Observers might want to take note of this. kikeslaves will always seem reasonable when their politics do not interfere with jewish evil, but the moment that the jew is implicated they become absolute fucking retards like Rugian here. Suddenly they deflect, obfuscate, fail to apply ideological consistency, fail to address, mis-remember, do not remember at all, ignore all arguments, etc. (and Rugian has ignored *many* such arguments from me). These fake "Right" people oppose the left's slave revolt in morality *only* when it interferes with the jew, since it is the jew who funded and provoked that same slave revolt (as they have done throughout their entire history). These kikeslaves turn to slime as does the jew. Words become spells they cast while they can crawl forward in their scheme of White genocide. These are sickly freaks who cannot see White people in the future of the West because they share the same genocidal vision as the jew, who similarly licks its lips at the idea of White people not existing. It is no coincidence that any Western system which invites the jew to power finds that its White Westerners face genocide. The only Western system which could function in the presence of the jew is one which denies them all access to politics, media/entertainment, bureaucracy, law, or civic authority.. and even then I'm not so sure they would fix their poisoned genetics. [Rugian (kikeslave)]: "None of you did. You thought he was a wildcard idiot bomb-thrower who occasionally said things you liked." Bullshit. I was posting years ago about how he was of top value since he's one of the few politicians against the Regime. I was even cataloguing how useful idiots suck as tumblefaggot were having their psychosis selectively weaponized against the jew's most problem targets (the same list I gave above). Even now you, a kikeslave, are only finding fault with Gaetz because jewish media told you it was acceptable for you to find joy in it, you fucking slave. [Rugian (kikeslave)]: "Call me crazy, but I really do remember a time when we had SOME standards for public servants, being as they're representatives of the people and all." This is more jewish "Trump but not Trump" faggotry. jewish media *allows* kikeslave NPCs to find fault in Trump *when* it enables the jew's more preferred DeSantis, and, similarly, the jew allows infighting in the Right when a jewish opponent can be removed. They are doing the same thing with Vance because they worry that he's not pro-jew *enough*. So as I said above, any Right-wing infighting must deny the foreigner/jew, the subversive, and the kikeslave any punishing mechanism which removes a Right-wing figure from power. Any rebukes must be internal and deny the legitimacy of any left-wing (e.g., jewish) attacks. Any "West Wing" faggotry (and West Wing was written by jews, of course! Aaron Sorkin is jewish, of course!) which prizes some faggot's sense of "decorum" over righteous indignation should be dismissed outright as more kikeslave ideology. If we punish the Right equally to the left, they do not care! They laugh since they are wielding a foreign slave horde. You cannot trade one Right-wing figure for one left-wing figure anymore than an anthill should get to kill 10,000 human children because one shoe landed on its roof. jews and their leftist slave castes will win that game all day. That principle *only* functions when the Right's hierarchy is in power, since the Right can punish slave castes «en masse» for their mass criminality. It does not work in reverse; in reverse it only advances the position of the slave revolt. That is the very nature of leftist "equity" appeals. We should have Right-wing figures beating leftists with canes in House chambers. Bolsheviks such as Raskin, Schumer, Sanders, Balint, and Schiff should *fear* showing up to work because they should know that when they tell their lies a Western politician is there to break their faces. The West used to have a *physical* cost for faggotry, but now faggots hide behind "decorum". "[Don't hurt the kikes because that's not 'decorum' enough!]" jews excel at this "decorum" lie because they always have some golem doing violence on their behalf while they hide in Chabad offices. The ironic thing which always ends in them losing power is that the closer they get to standing on the pulpit, the more people recognize how fucking grotesque they are, and Western people do not want to be ruled by freaks. TLDR: The best argument these faggots can offer is that being a kikeslave and watching the genocide of the White West can be more palatable with 'decorum'! The fucking joke of it all. People who invite their slavery like that are like that pig in Hitchhiker's Guide who was bred to want to be eaten. |
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Rugian
rank | Fri Jan 02 14:23:02 Yawn. You're boring. |
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Cherub Cow
rank | Fri Jan 02 15:55:28 Oh look, the kikeslave becomes just like williamthebitchfag and all the other UP leftists when his pet leftist issue comes up. What a fucking surprise. |
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Cherub Cow
rank | Fri Jan 02 15:56:54 "[Erm, sure, you just systematically dismantled my pro-kikeslave position, but, erm, didn't read]" — Rugian the kikeslave |
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Rugian
rank | Fri Jan 02 16:51:03 You have become intellectually incurious. You seem to be unable to brook even the smallest disagreement with anyone without immediately turning on them and treating them as your enemy. No wonder you advocate to murdering the majority of the US population. Either someone must support 100% of what you believe in or they deserve a bullet. I don't think that's a sustainable outlook to have myself. Hopefully you will get yourself turned around before you end up on the national news. |
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Cherub Cow
rank | Fri Jan 02 22:37:17 [Rugian (kikeslave)]: "No wonder you advocate to murdering the majority of the US population." Wtf are you talking about? Do you think I'm murderfag, you liar? I have repeatedly explained a Western heritage hierarchy of punishments. In the Western tradition before the Bolshevik subversion (which was mainly before the a55a55ination of McKinley in 1901), treason was righteously punishable by death. Would you incuriously deny that treason charges suddenly evaporated following McKinley? And why do we suppose that after some treasonous jews were executed in 1953 (the Rosenbergs) that suddenly treason charges ceased? And I have ordered punishments clearly in the past from low to high, e.g., • mass disenfranchisement (reduce the franchise only to White Westerners with no jewish mtDNA) • remove all laws informed by jews and their slave castes (e.g., remove Bolshevik immigration "reforms") • disenfranchise any White traitors (e.g., any Christian Zionists, dispensationalists, leftists) • do not allow certain collectives to hold government office, own lands, work in banking/finance, "politics, media/entertainment, bureaucracy, law, or civic authority" (e.g., no jews in these positions) • remove all welfare funding across ethnic lines (e.g., no White person's taxes can be used to fund a jew's or a black's public services; only an ethnicity's own *direct* manual-labor works can fund their own services; let them meet their own natures) • make all foreign aid opt-in only (e.g., the general fund cannot be used to tax White people for "Israel"'s wars) • deport any resentful slave castes to a country of their choosing. If they make no choice, their genetics determine the most convenient origin, or they are moved to the most convenient nation wherein their subversions are minimized to themselves (e.g., resentful black destroyers sent to Liberia, jews sent to Madagascar) • deport any figures who continue to aid these foreign enemies and resentful destroyers (e.g., deport Christian Zionists who, after the above disenfranchisements, still attempt to change laws in the favor of the jew) • jail any figures who refused to leave but who do the same • execute the egregious traitors: those kikeslaves who shamelessly serve their jewish masters while attempting to enslave the rest of the world. Given that execution is limited to the most egregious offenders following a series of escalating punishments, how do you figure that this would mean "the majority of the US population"? Do you think that these traitors would so shamelessly remain traitors following disenfranchisement and removal from power? If so, why would anyone have mercy for them? [Rugian (kikeslave)]: "You have become intellectually incurious." Pathetic projection. You really are a leftist on this issue. Who is not reading the other's posts? *You*. You are not reading my posts. *That* is intellectually incurious. These are *your* words above: "Yawn. You're boring." That's exactly the sort of intellectually incurious retardation that tumblefag shows whenever I dismantle his lies on document handling, Hawley, or a dozen other issues. He ignores and then pretends that no evidence has been offered. Similarly, williamthecoward intentionally spams garbage while reading nothing I wrote. Sebgul does the same. It's cult behavior. It is intentional avoidance of evidence to sustain the cult's dogma. And this has happened multiple times. • When I explained to you exactly how jewish power was manifesting in ESG, you simply ignored it (I listed how each tier of ESG's power manifestation was controlled by jewish figures; they had strategically placed themselves so that no prosecutions could occur: Larry Fink heading BlackRock and performing malicious takeovers of companies that opposed him, a jew heading the SEC to prevent lawsuits against BlackRock, a majority jew coalition in the DNC stopped ESG prosecutions at lower levels). Paramount even topped the thread when you failed to answer to it. You ignored via your intellectually incurious stupor. • When I explained how jewish power explicitly and openly *admitted* to being behind the leftist slave revolt in morality (e.g., particularly the post-2016 Antifa/BLM slave revolt), you ignored it. • When I explained (multiple times, not just in this thread) how Tolkien himself imagined how jewish morality would need to be reconciled *conditionally* within the West, you ignored that as well. (Note: I was *not* just mapping that metaphor for fun as you seem to have stupidly misinterpreted above; that was Tolkien's *own* metaphor: seriously, look into how he intentionally and openly modeled dwarves as inserts for jews. The Lonely Mountain is literally "Israel" in Tolkien's *own* story. This is how *he* described this *intentionally*. The Hobbit is literally about jews "[reclaiming their homeland]".) Do you deny this explicit reality? Does your cult demand you remain incurious about this? Do you cultishly pretend that this is just some pet *interpretation* of mine? *Your* incurious nature is because you are an unconditional kikeslave. *You* are incurious because you fear knowing things which might reveal to your own consciousness that you are a slave who was born to serve the master-enslaver that is the jew. You tell yourself stories about how being a kikeslave is somehow a "blessing", but only Satan wants slaves, and it is indeed Satan that the jew serves. They openly practice dysgenics for the world and eugenics for themselves, using any power they have to breed their slave armies. The only power that "chooses" a people regardless of their good works is Satan. They are "Chosen" by Satan. So you want to talk "intellectually incurious"? How about a Matrix metaphor: why do you refuse to know all of this? Did no one tell you? No. You were told. But "Know Thyself" — *you* have decided not to know these things. *You* have made the choice *un*-consciously, whereas were you to make the choice *consciously*, you would realize that the choice that the jew is giving you is enslavement and/or annihilation. They are literally breeding the world to be animals with no mind. This is their belief structure for all non-jews, and in a sick and twisted self-fulfilling prophecy they mean to make this a reality. So if you mean to be a kikeslave, at least admit it. At least become the pig in Hitchhiker's Guide who accepts that he was bred to be eaten. At least be honest with yourself rather than remaining in the early stages of the Celebration Parallax where you deny that it is even happening. |
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