Utopia Talk / Politics / It’s been nice to know you all

Asgard Member	Thu Jun 12 19:25:21 I’ll see you on the other side, soon.
Rugian Member	Thu Jun 12 19:30:52 Oh shit
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu Jun 12 19:34:14 Asgard is being used as a false flag victim??? Is this like jury duty?
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 12 19:41:25 Good luck buddy! You have an air raid shelter there i hope!
Asgard Member	Thu Jun 12 19:59:39 I love in building built in a 70s soviet-style : rickety 3-story building that stands on pillars, with a basement/shelter below, nothing that can ever handle a ballistic missile. What can I tell ya. C’est la vie
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 12 20:03:19 Iran launching missiles at israel.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 12 20:25:30 Israel hit the homes of all of irans military command. Their joint chiefs, air force and army heads, rocket heads, nuclear weapons designers, revolutionary guard command. Israel fucking rocks. Nataz is burning.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 12 20:27:21 Ballsy for sure
Asgard Member	Thu Jun 12 20:46:05 Also Mossad is running assassin ops all over Iran
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 12 20:48:53 Ya israelis on the ground in iran is crazy. With a little help from the people rising up and luck maybe iran can be free? I wonder if the iranian people see it that way...
Asgard Member	Thu Jun 12 21:05:51 They do, many of them certainly do
murder Member	Thu Jun 12 21:11:46 Can't even watch the damned Panthers game without Israel declaring war on Iran.
Dukhat Member	Thu Jun 12 21:26:55 Jesus. This war better be over quick. If they were going to do this, they should've done it during the Iranian uprisings. The timing is odd right now.
murder Member	Thu Jun 12 21:28:27 Not really. Trump probably figures that it strengthens his hand in the nuclear negotiations with Iran. -
Asgard Member	Thu Jun 12 21:44:47 Toming is actually perfect. After Iran attacked Israel a few months back, Israel wiped their air defences. They haven’t been rebuilt yet
Asgard Member	Thu Jun 12 22:13:26 Also Keep in mind that Itan’s proxies are nearly defeated: Hamas is on its knees, Hizballah which was the real one to fear of, also on its knees. if any time is right, this is actually it.
Asgard Member	Thu Jun 12 22:13:57 Fuck my phone, I corrected it to Iran and it still fucks up
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 12 22:20:10 I see no videos of iranian air defense firing at all. Lol jergul.
Allahuakbar Member	Thu Jun 12 22:22:40 The end of Isreel. This time you will have nowhere to flee, Muslims are everywhere in greater number already. USA, Europe, Russia, Muslims outnumber you everywhere. https://apnews.com/live/israel-iran-attack Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Friday that Israel will face “severe punishment” over its attack on the country. Khamenei issued a statement carried by the state-run IRNA news agency. It also confirmed that top military officials and scientists had been killed in the attack. Israel “opened its wicked and blood-stained hand to commit a crime against our beloved country, revealing its malicious nature more than ever by striking residential centers,” Khamenei said.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 12 23:42:06 Something is dreadfully wrong with irans air defenses. The entire israeli air force went to town and not a single iranian or israeli source has any mention of a single shot being fired, much less hitting anything. Soviet air defenses are basically aztecs with clubs.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu Jun 12 23:57:42 The handful of Iranian videos on intelslava are all of the damage. Not a single videos so far of air defences or even incoming bombs / drones / missiles Weird. Decent amount of explosives too from the looks of things.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 00:44:02 Theres a few videos of bombs/missiles hitting tehran, some other city and the reactor at natanz. The ones hitting the reactor are giant. Dunno what they are but they are bigger than 2000 pounders. But ya most are after the fact.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 03:29:43 Thus far: Attacks all across western Iran from Tabriz to Ahvaz. Several nuclear sites hit, along with military bases as well as private residences.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 03:34:17 Reza Pahalavi is telling people to go out and protest against the regime.
murder Member	Fri Jun 13 03:35:27 "Soviet air defenses are basically aztecs with clubs." They are just movie props. They couldn't afford to buy real S-300s.
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 03:45:19 It seems the Mossad has built drone bases inside Iran for attack months in advance to pull the same thing Ukraine did
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 03:46:05 And all jets returned to base unharmed. Wow
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 03:55:13 Yah, just provocative strikes with the ultimate aim of getting the US involved in a proper conflict with Iran. Like Asgard said, a combination of shoot and scoot long range launches and infliltrated ground launched drones inside of Iran. Israel has been putting a lot of effort into demolishing what was left of Syrian air defences to clear a path. Not sure why Asgard was expecting engine failure or something to cause jets to fall out of sky in Western Syria.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 04:06:34 "Netanyahu is in hot water domestically: Opposition to a new military conscription bill has sparked political deadlock, and Israel’s parliament, the Knesset, had met for talks about dissolving itself – which could have ultimately led to early elections that polls show Netanyahu would lose. Parliament rejected a vote on dissolution Wednesday, giving Netanyahu more time to resolve the crisis." Of course. Ultimately, it had to be about bibi.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 04:29:55 Thank you for the official Islamic republic position Jergul.
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 05:04:52 Also seems the entire commanding class in the Iranian airfoece was killed in a bunker
obaminated Member	Fri Jun 13 05:16:29 Iran got their shit pushed in and seems like they cant do much. 200 Israeli warplanes bombed military leaders and nuclear scientists and in response Iran sent 100 drones that got shot down.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 05:58:06 Nimi Let us hope it is Iran's official position. I do not see any point to kinetic escalation. Also, restraint undermines Israel's message that Iran is some sort of crazy existential threat. I trust you are not denying bibi has a very strong sense of "L'etat, c'est moi" and continues to do what he needs to do to ensure his political survival.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 05:59:04 (The news source quotation was from CNN btw) I just hope none of this impacts on Bam date availability.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 06:00:55 Or myheritage.com access for that matter. A nice Israeli company run out of Tel Aviv that I send money to once a year.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 06:40:33 "Let us hope it is Iran's official position. I do not see any point to kinetic escalation. Also, restraint undermines Israel's message that Iran is some sort of crazy existential threat." No. You are not allowed to add things to what I framed, and then retroactively make me agree with what you said later. I do not consent.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 06:52:03 It’s just not very insightful to say “Netanyahu is trying to stay in power” — that’s a constant. Most politicians seek to remain in power. But when that becomes the main lens through which complex events are interpreted, it risks oversimplifying the situation. Israel’s institutions are independent, and since October 7th there’s been broad consensus across the security establishment. An operation of this scale reflects more than just one man’s political calculations.
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 07:35:22 Netanyahu is irrelevant here. A scare crow would also make the decision to attack given the circumstances, it had to be done. “ Not sure why Asgard was expecting engine failure or something to cause jets to fall out of sky in Western Syria.” Sure, ignore the fact that the Itanian air defences failed 100%. I remember how you dismissed the fact that the defences were taken out during the previous attack and said it was all lies. Gotta love the jergul maths here.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 08:03:44 There is no evidence they simply 'failed' There is no evidence of air defenses at all Seems they used drones in country to target air defenses to clear the path for aircraft The total and utter level of dominance Israel has over Iran is staggering from an intelligence and espionage level. I bet every fucking usb and internet capable device in the country is compromised too at this point.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 08:14:10 Pillz Stand-off munitions. Or do you truly think IDF aircraft where anywhere near Iranian airspace? But your intelligence and infiltration point is correct to an extent.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 08:21:09 The most important role air defences have is access denial. I seriously doubt IDF aircraft were anywhere near Iran. I am unsure of what you think the attack did unless is provokes Iran in a way that gets the US involved. Ultimately, the gambit rather depends on Associated Press sharing pictures of injured Israeli children. To put it this way. Do you think Iran is even a day further away from nuclear weapons if it decided to pursue them?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 08:26:11 At this point I'm not sure their own nuclear weapons wouldn't target Iranian cities, jergul And after last night? Nah. But repeat that a few more times and yes, definitely, Israel is demonstrating it has the ability to cripple Iran and Iran is powerless to stop it. Unless you can explain what Iran can do??? Iran seems to be completely outplayed here.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 08:33:58 They had people on the ground allegedly. http://twitter.com/ItayBlumental/status/1933450476282102186
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 08:42:56 Pillz Yea, but they can, according to Jergul "only" do it with stand off weapons. The Iranian skies remain un-violated by Israeli Aircraft as their weapon bomb targets inside Iran, at will. This is, peak Jergul :)
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 09:23:12 Lol jergul. Israeli aircraft are currently over iran. Theres plenty of photos of isreali jets decked out in bombs. Theres even a video of a fat slow israeli recon drone patrolling iranian cities. Plus didnt you claim that soviet air defensee could shoot down bombs and missiles? This must be very embarrassing.
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 09:27:42 I’ve seen pits at bottom of valleys taller than such a prak
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 09:27:45 http://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1933517450978775192 Lmao
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 09:28:31 Peak* Re Peak Jergul
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 09:30:41 Sam Don’t use facts Facts are Jergul’s kryptonite
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 09:30:48 Sam Don’t use facts Facts are Jergul’s kryptonite
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 09:36:38 Nah, I already wrote that this was a combination of stand-off weapons and activated in-country assets. I would so wish people were better at reading. It is such an underrated skill to have. Recon drones are throwaway assets sammy. Even houthis have been recking your drones. But sure, you do you. No skin off my teeth. I can only lead you to water, not force you to drink.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 09:37:59 You don't address my question jergul? Im hurt
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 09:46:30 Pillz Iran was completely outplayed. No doubt. But this was no decapitating stike. Iran's nuclear potential remains. Brigadier Generals promoted to replace the 3 killed. I think the goal was provocative. Get Iran to do something that triggers US direct involvement.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 10:41:03 https://x.com/IranIntlbrk/status/1933475877062312031 Arab media reported the evacuation of Iranian consulates in Najaf, Karbala, and Basra.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 10:52:20 "already wrote that this was a combination of stand-off weapons and activated in-country assets." What you wrote is irrelevant. Israeli aircraft used gravity bombs in large numbers. "Even houthis have been recking your drones." Right. So the iranians cannot even shoot down that easiest of all targets?
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 11:05:55 Jergul in.a nutshell: “3.5 roentgen ? That’s not so bad…”
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 11:43:38 Sammy You are so incredibly guilable. The aircraft engaged with stand-off weapons. Asgard I try not to engage with adhoms. Its like wrestling with a pig. The pig likes it and all you do is get muddy.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 11:46:18 Its like so stupid. What is the combat radius of an F-16 sammy?
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 12:02:53 Reality: jets over Tehran Jergul: i like cheese.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 12:07:50 Thus far: Israel attacks have not stopped. Islamic Republic’s defenses completely ineffective. Entire top brass of IRGC and key civilian and military figures, including national security advisor to the Supreme Leader have been killed. Will the Islamic Republic survive this year?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 12:10:38 I guess we get to keep Asgard after all =/
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 12:40:32 "What is the combat radius of an F-16 sammy?" What is the combat radius of an f-16 with a number of tankers over syria. Ohhhh you forgot about those i see. Lol.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 12:49:07 The big reactor at ishafan has been hit. Looks like air defenses were finally responding there but failed. Lol.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Jun 13 13:05:14 Netanyahu and the other fucking psychopaths are saying this "had to be done" and that if the psychopaths fail then they'll use their Samson Option to annihilate the world with them. Typically fucking psychopath response. Nuke Israel.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Jun 13 13:06:32 Why are so many jewish people evil? You should all know why. --------- “If we fall…and that won’t happen, but if we do fall, many parts of the world will fall with us.” http://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1932918193410150440 ---------
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 13:12:19 "More than 100 missiles fired towards Israel"
Allahuakbar Member	Fri Jun 13 13:26:17 This is the day all Muslims have waited for! "The Israeli military’s Home Front Command has instructed people to move into shelters ahead of an expected Iranian missile attack. The army says Iran has launched missiles, and the safety order applies to the entire country. Israel’s Channel 13 TV says the missiles are expected to take about 10 minutes to arrive."
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 13 13:35:46 There are two kinds of people, to coin a tired phrase. There are people like me who, when a govt summons a meeting with all its top marketing guys to think up a name to sell a process that is aimed to kill loads of people but instead envokes imagined Disney images of righteous defense, noble strength, pride, power, honour, and come up with Rising Lion to sell their campaign, think: ”Oh, theyve had a meeting to think up a name to sell a process that envokes images of righteous defense, noble strength, pride, power, honour, etc. and they came up with Rising Lion” And then there are the psychologically slower-witted people who are the target of this meeting and who fell for the marketing campaign and think ”Oh man, Rising Lion so makes me think of righteous defense, noble strength, pride, power, honour. Go Rising Lion!!
Allahuakbar Member	Fri Jun 13 13:45:46 All out war! 2 min ago JUST IN: Iran’s state-run news said Iran launched hundreds of ballistic missiles toward Israel
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 13 13:57:48 Third wave of IRGC missiles launched at Israel.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 14:03:23 Pakistan could eliminate two enemies at once if they were paying attention!
Paramount Member	Fri Jun 13 14:13:59 ”hundreds of ballistic missiles toward Israel” I’m going to have an orgasm soon if Iran continues.
Paramount Member	Fri Jun 13 14:14:44 Can’t someone just kill Netanyahu, Asgard?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 14:26:31 Inb4 mossad gets Paramount
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 14:29:34 Iran launches 200 ballistic missiles and Israel/Us shoot down 95% of them. This is how real air defense works.
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 14:35:19 9 hits 1 injured Lol
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 14:37:04 “ Can’t someone just kill Netanyahu, Asgard?” Hopefully soon But not for doing what’s right as in this war But for his corruption, dictatorial regime, and ruining democracy
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 14:37:06 Israel does not have scores of tankers sammy. Nor would it have the advantage of surprise if it started sending tankers into Syria.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 14:37:39 The missiles were indiscriminately targetted across tel aviv. Compare with the ultra precise targeting of only iranian military sights by the IDF.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 14:52:54 Yet the tankers were there. When confronted with evidence, you should reevaluate your biases jergul.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 15:12:55 There seems to be a bunch of video of residential hits in Iran
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 15:14:32 Just wow. You are so brainwashed.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 15:17:45 That was at sammy obviously.
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 15:17:55 You’re tight jergul (and Pilz) Israel indiscriminately attacked Terhan and just happened, aomehow, to kill Nuclear scientists and IRGC officers. Totally random dumb bombs dod that
Asgard Member	Fri Jun 13 15:18:13 Right*
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 15:22:18 Lol @ asgard
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 15:27:36 Lol this must be very hard for you again jergul. It must be tough to root for a team that every one else hates and then watch them get embarassed so. Israel refueled many fighters over syria and possibly the wastelands of iraq. This is known.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Fri Jun 13 16:13:56 Occurs to me we won't be able to trust any video from the next war due to AI. Damn.
obaminated Member	Fri Jun 13 16:38:26 We have to trust sources. I thought the time waltz video claiming China is the moral authority was an ai video but it was on cspan. 2025 is gonna be a wild year.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 16:39:27 Sammy No skin off my teeth. In fact, quite the opposite. Oil bounced quite a bit and well, you know we are snow sheiks up here, so...Nice! I think your perspective is outlandishly naive and emotionally unbalanced. Yes, Israel mounted a wonderful sneak attack and assasinated like 3 or 4 people by blowing them up in their apartments along with their families while Iran was in ongoing discussions with the US. Nice! How honourable. Israel used stand-off munitions. They have loads of them. But keep adding layers of needless complexity to fuel your fantasy. Why not? Your imagination is your own. Asgard, the peeps were replaced within hours. It only makes sense as a provocation with the goal of embroiling the US in the conflict. Israel has quite limited force projection capability and Iran is quite far away. Iran needs to do something that triggers active American involvement.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 16:48:58 The skies over iraq and syria again are thundered by the sounds of at least 100 fighters going by, where they will meet more tankers, and then continue into iran. I thought you said israel couldn't do this jergul? Why is it happening? Magic?
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Jun 13 16:56:35 [Assfag]: "But for his corruption, dictatorial regime, and ruining democracy" So a standard Bolshevik, then? And the irony is that because assfag is a retarded leftist, he's of course using the "our democracy" viewpoint, which necessitates more Bolshevism. "[Oy vey! Our slightly center-left Bolshevik was too close to center! We need a further left Bolshevik! Oy vey!]"
jergul large member	Fri Jun 13 17:09:28 Standoff weapons sammy. I admire your fanfiction attempts, but please, do not quit your day job.
Allahuakbar Member	Fri Jun 13 17:14:21 1 min ago Iran and Israel say a new wave of Iranian attacks has begun
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 17:24:57 Iran is again firing on civilian areas with unguided rockets. Glide bombs on the non-stealth aircraft and bunker busters on the f35s. Lol poor jergul. Israeli planes are flying all over western iran.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Jun 13 17:29:36 I asked J.D. Vance on Twitter if he could ask Trump to use whatever resources he was going to give to Israel for this and use them instead to do what Israel wanted to do to Iran but do that to asset managers instead. I don't know if Vance takes requests, but if we see Larry Fink and his "Little Israel" getting drone-striked, then you're welcome.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 13 17:40:42 An Israeli civilian has died in tel aviv. RIP :(
Rugian Member	Fri Jun 13 17:50:35 "Sam Adams Member Fri Jun 13 17:40:42 An Israeli civilian has died in tel aviv. RIP :(" His death must be avenged. 100 dead Iranians seems like a fair price for such a crime.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Jun 13 18:08:14 The map of bombings in Israel and the map of sex offenders in Israel is gonna look pretty similar soon maybe? http://x.com/White_Ghost187/status/1933631419668181297
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