Utopia Talk / Politics / Jergul 2

Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:38:06 No retard. "Jergul has gone out of his way to demonstrate that he's incapable of being mod." I never qualified the statement in the OP. But it's obvious I mean it's because he's a bitch.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:40:21 Look at Twitchys thread titles and content. All personal flames and nothing to do with politics. Is there no requirement that threads should at least be vaguey related to current affairs?
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:45:44 Figured. He can't let it go, while projecting. "I never qualified the statement in the OP." You have... 1. Concluding calling jergul a nazi, inferring yiu take issues with their moderating And 2. By creating another thread calling for a mod election. (Totally a Hot Rod move.)
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:45:44 Just a short selection of the current spam threads he has on here atm
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:46:07 Jergul - moderatation policy Jergul 2 - con't Mod election - related Wtb raped his mother - fine by your standards (I never did say your personal attacks should be deleted, just your early spam should have been) A reminder wtb is my bitch - same Deline of wtb tracked - empirical data analysis of your posts (not even an ad hominem) llM/Data set - valid Red pilling ChatGPT Part 2 - valid IVF terror attack - valid So 3/8 are 'questionable' but inline with the behavior you initiated (ie: you're crying)
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:47:07 @multiboi Again, worthless unsubstantiable bullshit you're imagining means anything but doesn't
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:48:37 Your delusions aren't helping your case based upon threads you have authored.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:51:03 Since I never read the childish nonsense, I couldnt really care less, but he's clearly the #1 spammer on UP, so the irony is extremely thick
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:56:31 "Your delusions aren't helping your case based upon threads you have authored. ' Your delusions are none of my concern faggot. You want to ignore context, refuse proof, and pretend you're right. It doesn't work though.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:57:39 Wtb wants me to tty all the threads he spammed and build a timeline? Should we include all the terrible shit you have been saying to everyone else, too, to properly establish a baseline of what's acceptable to you?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:59:31 You're too retards both being retards thinking that since you're both retards it makes you right. This is, for reference, exactly the kind of reddit leftist echo chamber effect CC mentions. Where reality is replaced by social up voting and increasingly incoherent dribble.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 07:03:22 I mean...it's apparent you are failing at realizing you have a problem with the moderation. While you created recent threads about the issues of the moderating. Do you have a brain worm?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 07:04:16 Is this post actively asking for any additional moderation, or is it simply framing the moderator's actions and commentaries and calling him a bitch for it? ====== This post is not actively asking for any new or additional moderation action. It does not contain a request like “please delete,” “ban this user,” or “take action now.” Instead, it: 1. Reconstructs a timeline of perceived moderation failures (e.g., ignoring spam for weeks, inconsistently responding to complaints). 2. Accuses the moderator of hypocrisy and weakness — specifically for threatening punitive action only when the spam appeared in the mod thread. 3. Frames the mod’s response as inconsistent and disingenuous, but stops short of demanding any correction. The final tone — “Get fucked Nazi bitch” — is pure invective, not a call to action. The whole post functions as reproach and ridicule, not as a petition for rule enforcement. So yes: it’s just calling him a bitch. Nothing else.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 07:05:11 You aren't on reddit. It's you, wtb, and your other multies. That's all.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 07:08:10 Yet, you have critiques about their moderation and call for a mod election? So, either he is nazi bitch or whatever you said or want another mod or replace a mod.? Or You want him removed as a mod because they are incapable of their job based upon critiques made and have a new mod in place based upon the call for a mod election. That sums up someone had a grievance towards moderation.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 07:10:21 That is an amazingly roundabout way to say the opposite of what I am saying. And the opposite of what the AI has said now, twice. So you really really are insist on dying on this hill, or are actually that stupid. But so far you haven't produced a quote - so whatever it is - you lose. As usual.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 07:11:29 Why quoted when there are threads that clearly display your intentions and grievances?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 07:14:57 Because there are not. You are incompetent and failing repeatedly.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 07:17:06 You literally have two threads titled "jergul" and in the OP of them you clearly take issues with his moderation or lack thereof. Is that not considered a grievance?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 07:18:36 You can't read. Can't think. Can't follow. Can't do much of anything. But you can hide. Like a little bitch.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 07:19:44 But if I can't read how am I responding to you asking for clarification if there are threads existing criticizing current moderation?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 07:21:17 At this point I have to assume you're managing full sentences out of dumb luck
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 07:23:46 So I can read. Got it.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 07:26:49 It is amazing you appear to read despite obviously doing nothing of the sort and licking your keyboard.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 07:28:53 I'm just wanting you to admit you have issues with moderation and you did that for me. Thanks.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 09:15:31 • [Zero Identity (cowardly multi)]: "In an effort of compromisation, would you concede that if the removal of 'spam' posts by wtb's, yours would be removed too ending the silly 'spam war.'" It definitely wouldn't be. • [Zero Identity (cowardly multi)]: "And here’s where it gets ironic: you complain that WTB has been spamming you for a long time, while simultaneously engaging in the same behavior yourself." • [Pillz]: "False equivalence. What we are doing is not the same." Glad Pillz called that out, since the behavior is absolutely not "the same". "Zero Identity" responding to thoughtful posts with "yawn" is borderline spam, but it's permissible since it's obvious trolling. Even so, "yawn" is clearly low-IQ and has no value, whereas a thoughtful post has value. "Pillzlovesthecock" intentionally closing a thread with repeated one-word posts is absolutely spam which is why I called it out ( http://uto...hread=92538&time=1747739218794 ). Multis repeatedly making cock jokes is borderline spam when it's multiple comments in a row that add no value — another attempt to close the thread. This is something that williamthecoward does constantly. sebgul does this too. When UP leftists feel that they are doing especially poorly in a debate, they try to spam the thread closed and hope that there will not be a part 2. When/if there is a part 2, they spam even more egregiously because they do not want people to see how they handled the previous discussions when those open debates are re-raised. They hope that they can lie about the previous conclusions to "win" on a sampling error (i.e., hoping that people will only see the latest remarks and not know the context for an argument). The only counter-claim that the multis/dukhat/murder/williamthecoward types have for this is that long posts are difficult to read, but this complaint is only because they're just not intelligent people and can't read.. and therefore they identify long posts as "spam": • [williamthecoward]: "Well, by spam, I mean large blocks of text to ruin the thread. Only Twitchy does that" That's not a definition of spam. It is not surprising that when willamthecoward actually attempts to pin himself to definitions, he produces an incredibly flawed one that would make Diogenes mock him: Diogenes: "Behold! Spam!" (holds up a copy of "A Tale of Two Cities") • [Pillz]: "The document it analyzed was this thread. The prompts provided are there." This is a major distinction at play. When williamthecoward spams A.I., he typically omits the prompts, which makes it seem like he's just lobotomizing the A.I. to become a slightly more literate williamthecoward. If williamthecoward was referring to long A.I. posts (though williamthecoward *has* complained about length of my non-A.I. posts, which is another reason I think he's a fraud), there is even a clear difference between Pillz' use and his own. williamthecoward and the multis are clearly feeding the A.I. garbage with no value and no insight. It's again this issue of low-IQ garbage. Pillz is feeding the A.I. actual information, provides the prompts, and explains the dataset. williamthecoward is unlikely to perform this practice because the prompts he uses would constitute his steel man arguments which could then be addressed. He does not want his arguments addressed. I have explained this before, but the leftists of the forum have a tendency to fail this basic task of introducing content with their own interpretations. williamthecoward posting some leftist's thought and drawing no connection between that thought and the context is just spam and useless. When he multiple-posts, it becomes even more egregious. This also shows (again) that he is a fraud, since any even *undergrad* academic would know that you have to introduce a quotation with your own reading and contextualization of it. The leftists here are incapable of doing that, and they repeat this behavior when they spam A.I. • [Zero Identity (cowardly multi)]: "You take issues with mutlis by own admission." Pathetic. Multis are cowards more often than not. That's just a value judgment. That's what they are. They're too cowardly to post under their mains because they know that their mains are already being dismissed as retards. As Pillz said, that is a separate issue from whether or not they should be moderated. Making some argument that "[hur hur, multis have existed for a long time]" does not mean that multis defeated a value judgment. They're still cowards. And there's clearly a sub-category among multis. The multis that have been cock-posting as spam are clearly the lowest of the lows, whereas these forums used to have multis who could make clever points for effect. Again, this is a value judgment. Multis are not automatically benevolent just because of forum tradition. Retards are retards. Cowards are cowards. Simple stuff. • [Pillz]: "@jergul [/] You are a little bitch, we've established this in prior threads." This is a correct assessment of jergul. When he returns from time away, he wades back into it, but in general this is true. • [Pillz]: "So someone, quote something." They probably never will. This is consistent with all of the forum's leftists. They prefer straw man fallacies, lies, and distortions and will never clear up the confusion they cause themselves by quoting the person with whom they are speaking. I mention this frequently, but I got seb to actually quote me years ago, and he found that it wasn't allowing him to lie as freely about what I said or the argument that I was making, so he stopped. • [Pillz]: "exactly the kind of reddit leftist echo chamber effect CC mentions. [/] Where reality is replaced by social up voting and increasingly incoherent dribble." That really seems to be the case. You can tell when someone has trained their brain on Reddit, since it's the same formatting and the same low-IQ hot takes. williamthecoward likely trained himself on these low-IQ meme channels because that's how he talks here. On Reddit/Imgur, if you call someone a "nazi" for being Right-wing, the dog pile appears to offer hundreds of upvotes. That is not a structure based on argument but on rewards for pre-existing affiliation. Saying, "nazi" in that format is just a way to signal "[I'm in the left-wing conformism echo chamber. Support me if you see this.]" That is how they "credential" their responses. ("[This guy said, 'nazi' as bad thing, so it must be that the other guy is 'bad thing' and the user of 'nazi' is 'good thing'.]") It's not about argument, providing citation, quoting your opposition, or steel-manning the opposition. It's a format based in appealing to a mob, and the slave mob is best appeased with the discharge of its resentment, polarization, in-grouping, blocking, etc. The left thus thrives best with heavy moderation and heavy groupthink signals. That simply does not work in an unmoderated forum. This is why williamthecoward melts down here so much. This format no longer fits the next stage of the slave revolt, which is pure groupthink, word-coding, and vitriol. Low-IQ spamming is simply the only way they can operate in this context since they have become infinitely shallow. It could be that they can be saved, but as a meme on this subject goes, we are competing with the TV, and they watch a lot more TV than they read forum comments and books. (Obviously, "TV" is now a stand-in for social media, Regime propaganda, and shortform brain-melt content.)
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 10:30:47 *yawn* Qanon people are so ...yawn.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 10:31:55 Be sure to let us know what your definition of "Qanon people" is so we can be sure to laugh at your poor attempt to assign that definition to anyone here, you fucking loser. :)
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 11:12:18 *yawn*
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 11:23:24 One thing worth adding here is that we are seeing in real time that the left is incapable of making a moral argument for their presumed right to power. One thing that leftists seem to have forgotten — and they were warned very early — is that by abandoning argument they were basically identifying themselves as enemies occupying a completely separate moral structure and a completely separate set of laws. This is what they wanted, so this fact is not lost on them when translated to their own language of "social justice" and "equity". But those laws being foreign to we in the West, the consequence of their own belief structure is that when the time comes, no action against them will be immoral since it will be based in the moral arguments of their enemies—arguments which proceeded without the left's input. That is, they will have no say in what happens to them next. "Unconditional surrender" has a kind of ring to it here. This, again, I think, shows that the left craves its own obliteration. It is no secret that the Right is simply better at ultra-violence than the left. This principle of organized killing is an inherent quality of the Right. When people consider disembodied facts such as the hording of weapons, the hoarding of ammunition, the collecting of fighting gear and armor, time spent at rifle and pistol ranges, and time spent honing martial skills and getting stronger, one does not think of the sickly left. But the left has been convinced by its own phantoms. They think that controlling propaganda means controlling power. It does not. Harley Quinn kicking stuntmen to unconsciousness is not reality. Dostoevsky's underground man despairing over a «point d'honneur» is not a fight in itself. With all of their phantoms evaporating, all that is left is they themselves, and they are not ready for the consequences of their long flight from argument. They cannot even comprehend that reality.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 11:29:49 *yawn*
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 12:38:46 "Yawn", says the Last Man — and he blinks.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 14:02:32 *yawn* to the Qanoner.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 14:23:55 That's a two blow out loses for multifag in one day. "Harley Quinn kicking stuntmen to unconsciousness is not reality. " This actually captures what they think they're doing very well. And makes them all the more pathetic upon reflection.
Pillzlovesthecock Member	Thu May 22 15:23:16 Dog fucker and cocksucker supporting each other. A cock of a feather flock together.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 16:51:00 Faggot multi continues to fantasize
Pillzlovesthecock Member	Thu May 22 17:22:27 how many posts and threads do you have dedicated as worship to wtb? again, that cock must be golden for you.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 17:24:11 Worried he'll leave you?
Pillzlovesthecock Member	Thu May 22 17:27:16 Worried he won't accept you?
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 17:32:03 Wtb has made like 5 posts not about me in 2 days. Pretty sure I'm stuck with my unwanted worshipper.
Pillzlovesthecock Member	Thu May 22 17:36:03 says the cockfiend who has a track chart on him.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 17:43:38 Is that what that Track thread was about? A collection of threads by me or something? Strangely, that and several other of Twitchys tribute threads to me seems to have been deleted
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 17:45:21 The raped my mother thread is gone too lol
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 17:47:21 Looks like about 6 of his tribute threads have been deleted today lol
Pillzlovesthecock Member	Thu May 22 17:54:08 Oops, how did that happen? I am ...shocked. hahaha.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 18:03:32 In a one-room apartment with no kitchen somewhere in Canada, theres a voice screaming "Jergul, I will hunt you down and kill you, you fucking faggot!"
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 18:07:18 Lol
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 18:16:59 The irony of someone pretending to be a victim of spam getting 6 spam threads deleted as a result is sheer Woodsworthian poetry rofl
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 18:21:03 Wordsworthian
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 18:39:09 Jergul's inability to properly moderate the space, and subsequent effort to bait me, are reflections of his inadequacies as a man. You are again, demonstrably unable to engage with subjects with context or in any way that is anchored to reality. The fact that you flock together like furries reinforces your behaviors and pulls you further from sane, reasonable thought. My threads being deleted doesn't matter, because the veracity of what I've said and the impact of what I've done are unchanged and you are living it.
Pillzlovesthecock Member	Thu May 22 18:49:22 yes your desire for wtb's cock is unchanged.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 19:55:38 The left is very good at this practice of convincing everyone around them that there is no reason to have remorse for them. Some judges who are left with the option of giving a maximum sentence might wonder if the years ahead could be filled with a change of character and hope, but they are only looking at the way that they themselves would fill that time since they themselves have Virtue. The left does not have any virtue left, and so that same time would be filled only with more of their resentment. Even with infinity before them, they could not give birth to a dancing star.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 20:25:35 I'm gonna go ahead and take credit for this, as the multi is correct that much of wtb's and his own behaviours are ones that I have employed historically. Except the spam and multies. In many ways, they idolize me. Unfortunately they are just cheap imitations / pathologically broken. But the multies have always been the default response - ever since Milton Bradley. It is curious how the opposition has failed at growth or improvement. "Even with infinity before them, they could not give birth to a dancing star." Infinity would be an eternity of ignorantly 'righteous' decay. The possibility of a star isn't just ruled out by inability - theyd ensure there was nothing for it to be birthed from.
Cherub Cow Member	Sat May 24 12:36:32 "theyd ensure there was nothing for it to be birthed from." Too true :'( .. This is kind of a generic FoxNews video (lulz), and some of the information is stuff that all of us know already, but this is also a good summation of the kind of Reddit brain that we're seeing with UP's/Reddit's leftists: "Fed-up teacher quits with shocking warning: 'These kids can't even read!'" [Fox News; May 14th, 2025] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOszJuGXyUc Short version is that she's fielding students who.. • don't read the assignments; they find audio versions to read to them or use text-to-audio software • don't care; they see thinking assignments as irrelevant since A.I. can do the thinking • don't care about how to learn to write for themselves in their own voices, since A.I. can write • A.I. keeps them from developing critical thinking skills • They don't understand why they have to answer in complete sentences • They think that writing more than a few sentences is too much • When asked to produce longer works, they would shamelessly use A.I. to write the essay — even as it largely departed from their normal tone/style. When called on it, they'd just accept the grade and wouldn't care All of this should sound familiar in UP. *Every* leftist here complains about long posts. *Every* one. They complain about reading itself as a burden. Dukhat literally cannot stand writing more than one sentence. None of them can comprehend what they're reading. williamthecoward feeds A.I. the dumbest prompts possible or responds by spamming Wikipedia paragraphs (themselves written by defective minds). They can never evaluate their biases or suppositions, and they cannot critically examine their ideology for consistency across subjects. When asked to quote/cite or re-state things completely to show that they understand, they simply cannot do it. So a lot of this is technology abuse or dopamine-chasing. Their brains are so fried that reading and understanding is just not going to happen. Yet we're seeing that this phenomenon is mainly impacting the left. The Bread Tube leftists are literally just citing Wikipedia or doing quick-reads of Google summaries before presenting "expertise" in their daily videos (williamthecoward behavior). Whereas, people on the Right are taking this time to expand their libraries, read the classics, and re-engage with Western tradition directly. Many on the Right are publishing their own books on ideological ponderings, whereas even the ghost-written leftist books (e.g., Psaki's new book) seem like generic CNN headlines. TLDR: I think that the left is rejecting basic discipline and self-improvement so thoroughly that even reading their own literature is too much for them. I think a lot of this is that they need to serve their conformism by whipping themselves into a stupor. The mob does not need them to be intelligent, and by being the opposite they can remain hollow shells for the Party's next slogans. It's like that scene in "Animal House" where a sober person walks into a drunken frat party and says, "[I] got a lot of catchin' up to do," or Cartman eating Vagisil so he can get dumber and win NASCAR. They are taking part in a hierarchy so inverted that being retarded is a virtue.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Sat May 24 14:13:10 For leftists there is no need to expand their horizons with reading, learning, or exposure to other ideas: they have everything they think they'll ever need on reddit/bluesky/cnn. Engaging with other content is discouraged because the alt-right engages with it. They thus operate in a world where everything they're not spoon fed by the DNC/corporate is tainted and disqualified from examination or consideration. When confronted with requests to clarify, explain, justify, restate or contextualize their beliefs / opinions, the result is refusal / aggression / dismissal because not accepting the propaganda at face value is a threat. Because subconsciously they are aware of the house of cards they occupy. And finally, I'd say nothing described by that teacher is new. Just swap out regular plagiarism for AI. If the left probably doesn't see anything wrong with this - because it's 'progress' and 'the future' but the reality is that this is intentional. An educated and competent population needs purpose or they're dangerous. The left envisions a world where we no longer need people (depopulation) and so why would they want to / encourage education or achievement or foster intellect in the newer generations.
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