Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump bars Covid shot for millions

murder Member	Tue May 20 18:11:34 New Trump vaccine policy limits access to COVID shots WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration said Tuesday it will limit approval for seasonal COVID-19 shots to seniors and others at high risk pending more data on everyone else — raising questions about whether some people who want a vaccine this fall will be able to get one. Read the rest here: http://apn...4de15b6ff955d6cd0b406aaec3cdc5
Pillz breaker of wtb	Tue May 20 18:12:59 And I suppose you oppose this for some retarded reason
murder Member	Tue May 20 18:23:40 You want to know if I oppose the government barring citizens from taking life saving vaccines? Yes.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Tue May 20 18:25:40 'life saving' Y'okay
Cherub Cow Member	Wed May 21 02:16:58 "life saving vaccines" Rofl
obaminated Member	Wed May 21 02:25:07 Murder, I hope you get your life saving booster shot every 6 months for the rest of your life or until your betters say you can stop.
patom Member	Wed May 21 04:50:55 Scenario that runs through my head. Cow takes her child to the doctor. Doctor diagnoses Covid Cow says the kid isn't vaccinated and wants a second opinion. Doctor says, Ok, your an idiot.
mexicantardnado Member	Wed May 21 05:20:24 Duuuuur vaccines duuuuuuuur never did duuuur anything duuuur for anyone duuuuur vaccines duuuuur myth #tarded4life
murder Member	Wed May 21 05:48:22 "Murder, I hope you get your life saving booster shot every 6 months for the rest of your life or until your betters say you can stop." On the plus side Trump will let you buy all the bullshit supplements you can afford. -
Cherub Cow Member	Wed May 21 06:11:57 [patom (leftist shitlib boomertard)]: "Doctor says, Ok, your an idiot." The self-own here is impressive, but patom is too stupid to see it. Sad!
patom Member	Wed May 21 07:33:06 Yep, I've had every vaccine that's been offered to me over the last 81 years. I died from all of them.
patom Member	Wed May 21 07:34:44 CC gets all the health advice she needs from RFK Jr.
Average Ameriacn Member	Wed May 21 07:52:59 I guess that Biden changed the ingredients of the Trump vaccine and now it's no longer as good as it was before.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed May 21 08:00:56 Got any more CNN talking points, boomerfag? Time to dismantle your retardation: • "Scenario that runs through my head." Shitlibs always seem to have this scenario which is just a *bit* too similar to the one that they made fun of for '90s Christians. In the '90s Christians case, they'd laugh at the idea that shitlibs would be punished by an imaginary "God" as a threat ("[God will punish you for your shitlib vices!]" / "[Oh will your imaginary friend do that? lol!]"). Yet, here shitlibs are, imagining that their imaginary "God" will punish the unvaccinated. Oops! I never got COVID! Oops! Never got sick! Oops! Lived my life instead! How does your hypothetical play out when I live a healthy and strong life while you sit inside with a mask on in current year, getting boosters for an ailment that stopped being an issue by summer 2020, you pathetic loser? • "Yep, I've had every vaccine that's been offered to me over the last 81 years." This is the retard shitlib talking point of "[it's literally just a vaccine! We've all been getting them forever!]" Meanwhile, back in reality, there is a *massive* difference between a "vaccine" rushed to production for an ailment that has already mutated away from the "vaccine"'s use case and is given a fast-track to bypass safety and efficacy trials versus an actual vaccine that works for a definite ailment and has a long history of success. Retards who believed this "[just another vaccine]" talking point were the same retards who believed that "[hur hur, mRNA tech is actually quite old!]" — completely ignoring that this *particular* *application* was novel. On top of this, as I talked about in the mandate litigation threads years ago, the financial incentive to push the COVID shot was *tremendous*, and it was clear that public health policy was being written by people who wanted to get rich not from the economic activity of a healthy public but from the economic activity of shots-in-arms (i.e., the Bolsheviks leading public health policy got rich from useful idiots getting this shot. Their threats had nothing to do with public health and everything to do with dollars signs whenever some scared boomer got a shot). And that should be no surprise. The vaccine schedule has been bloated for decades because all of these pharmaceutical companies know that if they can get on the schedule then they can gain a steady income and hold a consistent production schedule. The people who transparently went from recognizing the harms of BigPharma pre-COVID to suddenly thinking that BigPharma was a bunch of benevolent altruists post-COVID are such fickle weaklings that they should never know power again. They day of the pillow is coming. Boomers upholding shitlib media and legacy talking points about mass-compliance with totalitarian psychopaths and singing the post-WWII delusion of Western annihilation as "positives" have already decided to leave their own people nothing and have already decided that mass migrants can beat them to death in their hospice beds. The Western people you betrayed for that arrangement will not defend you or the grotesque ideology with which you attempted to poison their futures. You're little play-for-power where you try to shame people into violating their own bodies to appease a slave mob is over. People under the yoke who want everyone under the yoke with them will not get to write the laws. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards Warhammer 40k." Your heresies will fear their end and then meet it alone.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed May 21 08:03:47 *"[Your] little play-for-power"
murder Member	Wed May 21 09:15:50 Cherub Cow is in desperate need of a Cherub Bull.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed May 21 10:18:40 (wherein murder's bad joke fails to comprehend the angelic hierarchy or the composition of a cherub)
jergul large member	Wed May 21 12:14:33 In my opinion, there needs to be something better than vaccines. I suggest exposure therapy. We find some weak version of covid and inject people with that so they get immunity naturally.
obaminated Member	Wed May 21 17:30:37 http://www...gressional-report-reveals.html Rofl. Sorry murder, tom and all you other sheep.
The Zero Identity Member	Wed May 21 17:55:10 Did you even read your article? Or just hang on the headline for the "gotcha" moment?
murder Member	Wed May 21 19:20:51 "Rofl. Sorry murder, tom and all you other sheep." 270,227,181 Americans who were vaccinated say "Hi!"
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 04:28:54 [jergtard]: "We find some weak version of covid and inject people with that so they get immunity naturally." The joke jergul is making here is that this is the actual definition of a vaccine (a weakened version of, in this case, COVID), but the reality is that that is *not* what the mRNA shots by Moderna and Pfizer were. So, accidentally, he admitted that indeed the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA shots were *not* vaccines by definition, and this is backed up by the definition change that had to take place for the malicious approval of these shots. If you Google this, Regime media will even tell you, "[Umm.. no.. we didn't change the definition.. we just.. changed the words.. that defined it.. umm, fuck. Please only click the top links D: D: D:]" And this was something else that I was pointing out years ago. There were *indeed* traditional vaccines being released for COVID, but most of these were **not allowed** in the West as "proof" of vaccination (e.g., to keep one's job, to travel). Totalitarian psychopaths fixed the market so that only Pfizer and Moderna were prioritized. You could not get the Sputnik V traditional vaccine (which had a higher efficacy and better safety protocol), but you *could* get mRNA tech and risk heart issues so that some boomer in hospice could feel safer about your existence. They even pulled the traditional Johnson & Johnson vaccine at the height of early-adopter demand. We were witnessing market fixing, but shitlibs to this day will still ignore all of this and resort to groupthink principles of "herd immunity" (herd cowardice, herd morality, slave morality). Pathetic.
patom Member	Thu May 22 04:32:17 Thanks but no thanks. I honestly think that both my wife and I had covid before it was announced. I was down with it from the end of Nov. 2019 till the 2nd week in January 2020. Maybe that was exposure therapy, maybe not. I'll stick with real scientists and doctors. Cherub can follow the dictates of the anti-vaccine crowd let be their hero RFK Jr. under the supervision of Trump, who we all know is the knower of all things.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 04:36:24 Yes, the guy who probably lives in a town of <2000 and doesn't have neighbors in sight definitely got Corona first.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 04:53:22 [patom (boomer-brained shitlib)]: "I'll stick with real scientists and doctors." Because you are a coward. You are a conformist. You are weak. You "follow the science" *only* as it leads you to the totalitarian formula of Lysenkoism (*Party*-approved "science"), just as the cowards of the Soviet Union did before you. And all you have, in your cowardice, is references to the "big bad wolf" of RFK Jr., whom I have never cited in UP (at least not for COVID policy). You only cite him in opposition to me because Regime media gave you permission to code him as "bad thing" and then to use him as a "guilt by association" tactic against those "others" who are not sickly, weak conformists such as yourself. That is how cowards such as yourself trick yourselves into believing that you're not cowards: "[The rest of the herd said it was okay! The 'real scientisits and doctors' said it was okay to be a coward! I hid my cowardice behind their cowardice, and so you cannot say that we were all cowards together!]" But I can. You all are cowards, and the selfishness and stupidity of your boomer delusion will meet the day of the pillow. People who adopted the totalitarian framework of "one size fits all", attempting to apply a single formula to the lives of *every* *single* *person* in the West regardless of risk factors due to your sickly fear of dying — you are cowards. Some random boomer might have thought that *he* needed the shot because of his own risk factors, but for the sickly coward boomer this was not enough: "[destroy the young, too, so that I might burn my ancestral wealth on another Carnival cruise]" they said. Many boomers must suffer with the knowledge that they never once opposed the post-WWII boomer delusion, and COVID revealed their cowardice — their weakness that they projected on the wider world. On the day of the pillow, there will not be "real scientists and doctors" standing between you and this reckoning. You will be alone with your cowardly decisions.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 05:20:34 CC You nailed it. All good jokes contain a kernel of truth and yepp, the common vaccines are not vaccines by a traditional definition as immune response triggers were manipulated differently than through direct exposure to a weakened variant. There is reason to be sceptical, just not to the point of not getting some form of vaccination.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 05:27:29 "There is reason to be sceptical, just not to the point of not getting some form of vaccination." False. That statement is only "true" as some lukewarm diaper-shitter's statement. There is no reason to get a COVID "vaccination" for most people. That ended in summer 2020. Boomer shitlibs wearing masks inside are welcome to it, but they can die alone.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 06:10:02 CC Herd immunity is a thing that requires a collective response. It can be gained in the easy or the hard way. I would not go so far as to mandate obligatory vaccinations, but do think various limitations can be imposed on unvaccinated. Potential Typhus Marys have nothing to do at many workplaces for example. Very 19th century, I know, but that is when we learned everything we need to know about epidemic control. I get the rugged individualist counterargument of course, I am merely saying that people choosing that route can be rugged individualists by themselves.
Cherub Cow Member	Sun May 25 03:38:12 • [jergfag]: "Herd immunity is a thing that requires a collective response" Herd immunity is a coward's ideology that requires a coward's response, correct. • [jergfag]: "various limitations can be imposed on unvaccinated." I think the opposite. I think people who get vaccinated after a Regime psy-op should not be allowed to vote. • [jergfag]: "I am merely saying that people choosing that route can be rugged individualists by themselves." That is not your Party's position, comrade. The patomfags of the world did not leave the individualists alone. People living in the literal mountains were being forced to comply because if they came into town for supplies they were not being allowed to trade without demonstrating Party Faith. This is the ideology of cowards. It is not about a threat of illness, since the individualist is absolutely no infection threat even to the cowards of the herd. This is about the herd morality demanding mass-conformity because they fear bravery itself. The sick should be quarantined — not the healthy. But the psychopathic destroyers and cowards embedded in the West inverted this, forcing the world to live in fear as they themselves always live in fear ("I think you've been afraid all your life."). Cowardly boomers living in hospice were insisting that the world be given oxygen masks. "There are no pacts between lions and men." We saw what they did with power, and so they must never again hold it. All of this is a sentencing hearing. Millions of people now know that the cowards who tried to reach indiscriminately into their lives to annihilate them have lost the right to rule. All that is left is the obliteration of the cowards. No vote. No political office. No assets under management / no banking or finance. No protection within the West's borders. They failed to defend and earn the Great Providence of Liberty, and so they are not my brothers or sisters. They deserve no quarter. They are foreigners and are not subject to the laws of my Everlasting People. ... This is the expertise that leftists consult for medical advice: http://x.com/wigger/status/1926327330433122562
murder Member	Sun May 25 07:05:50 People should consult whatever right wing podcast gets the most listeners instead.
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