Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump gets a 747-8 jet gift from Qatar

murder Member	Mon May 12 08:52:19 With no strings attached or anything! Setting aside the naked corruption, this guy just doesn't understand how anything works. He doesn't seem to understand that the gifted plane would have to undergo massive upgrades for his own fucking security ... and for national security. He doesn't seem to understand that by the time the jet is ready, his term will be up. -
patom Member	Mon May 12 09:12:40 Well he'll need transportation to his new MAGA resort in Gaza that Israel is gifting him. Plus he'll need something to transport all the Gazans to the middle of the Sahara.
patom Member	Mon May 12 09:13:14 Well he'll need transportation to his new MAGA resort in Gaza that Israel is gifting him. Plus he'll need something to transport all the Gazans to the middle of the Sahara.
Rugian Member	Mon May 12 09:47:10 He even lost his side piece on this one: "Laura Loomer @LauraLoomer I love President Trump. I would take a bullet for him. But, I have to call a spade a spade. We cannot accept a $400 million “gift” from jihadists in suits. The Qataris fund the same Iranian proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah who have murdered US Service Members. The same proxies that have worked with the Mexican cartels to get jihadists across our border. This is really going to be such a stain on the admin if this is true. And I say that as someone who would take a bullet for Trump. I’m so disappointed." http://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1921615017138618439
mexicantardnado Member	Mon May 12 10:43:03 Duuur. I support this duuuuur duuur duur. While I ignore that duuuur Qatar supports hamas duuuur giving them 1.8 billion financially. Duuuuur duuur. But this isn't a bribe duuuur. We don't support duuur hamas duuuur but free plane duuuur I retarded duuur
Average Ameriacn Member	Mon May 12 11:13:11 Imagine Trump accepts it and then orders to crash it into the Kabab as revenge for 9/11, wouldn't that be hilarious?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 11:26:04 i'm sure it's decked out for royalty which is helping fuel Trump's desire (w/ him also filling the White House w/ gold trinkets & trim & wanting to add a gaudy ballroom)
williamthebastard Member	Mon May 12 11:37:10 Ah, the Saddam school of interior decorating where every detail is purely intended to let the Joneses know that you're rich. Imagine devoting your few nanoseconds of getting to see eternity to what other people think of you. Such blindness.
TheChildren Member	Mon May 12 15:07:18 btw wut plane costs 400 mill is it in gold?
Rugian Member	Mon May 12 15:15:15 Trump described it as a "flying palace" after he toured it...so maybe it is gold.
Paramount Member	Mon May 12 16:18:00 ”We cannot accept a $400 million “gift”” Isn’t it better that they spend the money on Trump instead of on jihad? This Laura Loomer woman, whoever she is, is not so smart.
kargen Member	Mon May 12 16:48:31 It wouldn't be a gift to Trump. It would belong to the Department of Defense and future presidents would also use the plane once Trump leaves office. Oh and he does understand there would be upgrades because they (the administration) has already indicated it would need a complete makeover to meet security requirements. With Boeing being unable to deliver on their contract why not take a plane near ready to go in the meantime? And the 400 million is cheap compared to the 7 billion it will cost for two planes from Boeing.
mexicantardnado Member	Mon May 12 17:01:36 Duuur if they spin it duuur that way duuur it just duuurs shows it's not duuur s gift. Diuur otherwise duuur they wouldnhavr to duuuur let Congress duuur decide butnl duuur it's okay. Duuur Qatar supports hamas duuur no problem here duuuur kargen duuur gets it duuur he retard too duur
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 17:20:19 "and future presidents would also use the plane once Trump leaves office" NOPE
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 17:22:17 it's probably going to the Def Dept first then sliding it to Trump via library as god forbid Trump had to pay any taxes
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 17:28:01 ...plus helps gullible idiots not notice the blatantly obvious bribe to Trump (which also violates the constitution) not directed at any person 4 posts up or anything >.>... he will have heaps of company
kargen Member	Mon May 12 17:50:00 yep it would be retired when Boeing finally gets theirs built. So maybe only the next president gets to use it a while then it goes to the Trump library. Going to the Trump library doesn't mean Trump gets to use it. He would have to buy it first. It would become something people visiting could tour. "The National Archives has rules regarding gifts given to the President and First Lady. Most foreign gifts and some domestic gifts that aren't kept by the President are transferred to the National Archives and become part of a presidential library or museum collection. A President can request to purchase back a gift that has been transferred to the government, but they must do so at the item's appraised value." And how is giving something to the defense department bribing Trump? The Biden cartel gave Trump a perfect blueprint on how to get bribes if that were what he is after. Trump could just send a family member over to serve on a board for a few years. Besides, you well know, the way to win Trump over is to be overly complimentary of him. He can buy any material thing he wants. Compliments are where you get him.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 18:11:24 by what rationale should it go to the Trump library? & yes he would absolutely keep using it, who would stop him ----- "Besides, you well know, the way to win Trump over is to be overly complimentary of him. He can buy any material thing he wants. Compliments are where you get him" compliments & pampering... plus he loves showing off the luxury he lives in, that's the reason he's filling the oval office w/ gold to show it off to everyone who sets foot in it... & he will love showing off his new luxury plane (& love not having to spend his own money for it... he's cheap as fuck)
mexicantardnado Member	Mon May 12 18:15:01 duur so retarded drank the duuur kool-aid duur too ensure duuur that any irrational mental gymnastic duur of justication is made duuuur to keeep duur a plane duuuur that supports hamas duuuur.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 19:12:07 Trump himself said the plane will go right to his (non-existent) library once he leaves office (when lying he wouldn’t still use it)... I’ve seen nowhere that any real president would also use it (beyond kargen’s claims)
murder Member	Mon May 12 19:35:46 "Oh and he does understand there would be upgrades because they (the administration) has already indicated it would need a complete makeover to meet security requirements. With Boeing being unable to deliver on their contract why not take a plane near ready to go in the meantime? And the 400 million is cheap compared to the 7 billion it will cost for two planes from Boeing." The two Boeing VC-25Bs have been built for ages. They are being converted from two 747-8s that were supposed to go to Russia but the deal fell through. It's all the modifications that are taking forever. The same modifications that this new plane would have to undergo. -
williamthebastard Member	Mon May 12 21:12:01 This plane has more bugs than a cockroach nest
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon May 12 22:41:21 Mark Levin (of Fox) replied 'Ditto' to Laura Loomer's post fairly significant as he's a reliable Trump propagandist (& thus one of the 20+ Fox people who Trump has given positions in his regime)
TheChildren Member	Tue May 13 06:31:40 how i get a piece of da pie 2... i want a flyin castle 2 man
murder Member	Tue May 13 08:58:07 In the air may be asking for too much, but if you're willing to stay on the ground, you can get a pimped out RV for ~ 1% of the cost. :o) -
mexicant Member	Tue May 13 09:55:51 https://www.reddit.com/r/CattyInvestors/s/Y1lsjPFrxg Sums it up
mexicant Member	Tue May 13 09:56:13 http://www.reddit.com/r/CattyInvestors/s/Y1lsjPFrxg
kargen Member	Tue May 13 16:07:06 "The two Boeing VC-25Bs have been built for ages. They are being converted from two 747-8s that were supposed to go to Russia but the deal fell through. It's all the modifications that are taking forever. The same modifications that this new plane would have to undergo." How does that change Boeing not being able to deliver? Whether it is because they are being built or are being retrofitted it amounts to the same thing. They are way over budget and way behind schedule.
williamthebastard Member	Tue May 13 16:16:37 "But retrofitting the 13-year-old aircraft to current Air Force One requirements would take years of work and billions of dollars, current and former U.S. officials say. Such a task would be impossible to complete before Trump leaves office." The Air Force would have to “rip” open and rebuild the Qatari plane — which has been flown for years in service of other countries and individuals — to bring it up to standard, said the official. Counterintelligence is also a concern, said former Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall. “We would have to be sure nobody had planted bugs on the airplane,” he said. High-end communications have to be protected from jamming, cyberattacks and nuclear blasts, current and former officials said. “You’d pretty much have to take that plane down to the skeleton and put it back together” The gifting of a plane from a foreign government would probably warrant an even harder look, Eckloff said. “They’re going to walk that thing inch to inch and say, ‘Does this nut belong here, does this bolt belong here?’” Eckloff said. http://www...trump-qatar-747-gift-security/
williamthebastard Member	Tue May 13 16:27:28 "The point of the transaction is clearly to benefit Trump personally, as he will have exclusive use of it for the rest of his life." http://nym...747-8-qatar-air-force-one.html
williamthebastard Member	Tue May 13 16:34:24 "How can this be a bribe?" How is it possible to ask that?
williamthebastard Member	Tue May 13 16:39:18 I want to believe Kargen is being honestly naive, but its unthinkable he would have denied it being a bribe if Qatar had sent a gold-fitted "palace" of a plane to Obama.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 13 17:19:24 it would be a total waste of time & money to refit the plane, plus the child king will want to fly around in his luxury palace immediately, so maybe he'll sign an EO changing the requirements & we'll at least save on the money waste then R's can just choke down him taking the obvious $400 million bribe like they do with all the other corrupt & criminal shit he does
kargen Member	Tue May 13 19:11:58 If they sent Obama a plane I would have objected. Had they sent the US Department of Defense a plane while Obama was in office I would have the same opinion I have now. Your article is behind a paywall but if they are saying Trump gets the use of the plane for life that is a lie. The National Archives would have control just as they do almost every other gift to the president (they let Nixon keep Checkers) and Trump would need to purchase it at face value for it to be his. It was easy to ask how is this a bribe. Some letters formed words. Those words formed a sentence and that sentence ended with a question mark.
mexicant Member	Tue May 13 21:05:31 That's great your opinion isn't the standard what the general perspective would be. Which is, Obama accepted a bribe if he were in this situation. The same as Biden. The same as Harris. The same as Lcinton. But for mango mussolini and maga Republicans in general, the spin "but this is going to DoD." If you're this gullible....I am.amazed how you made it to your age.
mexicant Member	Tue May 13 21:08:10 I would like to add, glad to see you're complicit of supporting such a regime that supports Hamas with billions of dollars and not bat an eye. I can't imagine how if this were a talking point to Obama or Biden how you most probable would cry outrage. But isn't that the MO of magatwats? Know no bounds to hypocrisy.
williamthebastard Member	Tue May 13 21:10:58 Meanwhile Israel is getting quite nervous at oil sheiks being better at flattering his ego. Netanyahu even warning that Israel may have to learn to cope without US aid
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue May 13 22:15:04 Beware The Arab lobby, is effectively the Islamic republic’a lobby right now. The starategy is consistent with what some of the more intelligent and least delusional analysist said: we can’t hurt America or Israel, but we can hurt their friends, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar. And this is true, they can. Some people lamented the Chinese brokered peace between Saudi and Islamic republic, because that meant they gave up their only leverage (chaos and violence and the threat of). This is also true. THAAD, patriots and iron dome will protect Israel, but the Arabs have nothing even close. That’s where we are at.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 13 23:18:04 on fuckhead's feed, amongst a dump of cultist worship reposts, are two different cultists defending this bribe by citing the Statue of Liberty gift from France cultists being so stupid is expected the 'president' being so stupid as to think those are noteworthy arguments yet again shows he's unfit for office & should be removed immediately
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 14 02:13:51 Trump, who likely doesnt really like Jews all that much to begin with, probably sees Israel as nothing but an expense, while SA, Qatar and UAE, countries brimming with money unlike Israel, are talking about buying trillions of dollars of weapons and are doing their best to look like great customers as well as flattering and bribing him. And he is, of course, running the most corrupt admin in US history. Hamas is actually celebrating his current visit which is why they released a US Israeli - to give him a "victory". Meanwhile, Israel is getting more and more nervous by the hour.
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 14 02:33:34 If SA gives him one of their man-made islands and names it after him or something to seal the deal, Israel will be left firmly out in the cold
patom Member	Wed May 14 08:18:14 Can anyone imagine the screaming and crying from MAGA world if Joe Biden had got a model of a Piper Cub?
patom Member	Wed May 14 08:19:23 Didn't some politician from New Jersey get sentenced to 11 yrs. for accepting gold bars from Egypt?
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 14 09:33:45 Trump gives new meaning to the expression "follow the money"
murder Member	Wed May 14 09:59:02 "How does that change Boeing not being able to deliver? Whether it is because they are being built or are being retrofitted it amounts to the same thing. They are way over budget and way behind schedule." Boeing would end up doing most of the work anyway. They are the 747 people after all. They are also the only company with experience doing this sort of modification. -
murder Member	Wed May 14 10:01:49 "If they sent Obama a plane I would have objected. Had they sent the US Department of Defense a plane while Obama was in office I would have the same opinion I have now." kargen you cannot possibly believe that Qatar gifted us a $400 million jet in exchange for nothing. -
murder Member	Wed May 14 10:04:19 "Meanwhile, Israel is getting more and more nervous by the hour." I guess they've been reading their bible. -
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 14 10:16:31 Stephen Miller is getting a rough lesson in Trump doesnt listen to an-ee--one when someone else waves a wad of bank notes in his face
jergul large member	Wed May 14 10:34:04 Its fine. The chance trump would feel any obligation from the gift = 0
jergul large member	Wed May 14 10:35:35 For Qatar, the mere act of gift-giving grants prestige. A gifting and honour culture thing.
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 14 10:44:05 Israel sure thinks he's doing unthinkable and permanent damage to them http://www...mp-relegates-israeli-concerns/
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 14 10:48:23 "And whether he’s still broadly empathetic to Netanyahu’s concerns or not particularly bothered by some of them, he’s moving ahead on a whole range of vital regional issues without including Israel on his regional itinerary, without arranging for an Israeli presence at his critical meetings, and without heeding Israeli concerns in an expanding number of his agreements. He dramatically deepened US-Saudi relations, with Israel out of the loop — telling Saudi leaders that while it is his dream for them to join the Abraham Accords with Israel, “you’ll do it in your own time.” Left unspoken was his recognition that Saudi Arabia will not normalize ties with an Israel, under Netanyahu, that refuses to set out even a theoretical pathway to Palestinian statehood. He signed an unprecedentedly large arms deal with Riyadh, worth some $142 billion, doubtless to Jerusalem’s dismay (especially if Israel’s air supremacy is undermined). And he is reportedly discussing a deal regarding the Saudis’ desire for a civil nuclear program, which opposition leader Yair Lapid warned on Wednesday would trigger a Middle East nuclear race. He is determined to seal a deal with Iran that, given the US zig-zagging on whether this will require the destruction of all of the regime’s nuclear facilities, has Jerusalem in panic mode. Over objections from Jerusalem, he’s lifted all sanctions on a Syrian leadership that Israel understandably regards as a terrorist regime Every one of these moves has vast implications for Israeli security, economy and the daily well-being of its people. Any Israeli government would have tried to influence and amend Trump’s rapid deal-making steps toward the Houthis, the Syrians, the Saudis and the Iranians. But Israel has been largely marginalized as Trump has advanced them. It was being speculated in Jerusalem on Tuesday evening that Trump is angry with Netanyahu for having sought to push him toward a military strike on Iran, when he has been advocating diplomacy. It was also being suggested that Trump has concluded that Israel is simply no longer as central to American interests in the region. For now, it appears to be less a case of “he’s not that into you,” and more a case of “I’m moving ahead, with or without you.” With this trip, Trump is soaringly elevating the Gulf states, and this, by definition, means Israel’s regional importance is reduced in the president’s considerations. Implicit in Trump’s admiration for progress in the Gulf is a demotion of Israel as the go-to regional cutting-edge powerhouse, the prime innovator, the tech pioneer, the smart destination for investment. The fact is that Trump is forging ahead with a whole slew of deals and alliances radically impacting Israel — and in so doing, he is already determining core aspects of Israel’s security and geopolitical future."
kargen Member	Wed May 14 17:51:22 mexicant are you somehow under the impression I voted for Trump? My comments have nothing to do with who Qatar may or may not support. My comment is focused on one thing that being the gifting of this plane and whether or not it goes against the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966. As I've laid it out it does not. If Trump does continue to use the plane after his term without paying for it then that would go against the act. You guys are trying to convict of a crime that can't happen for more than three years out and in my opinion will not happen. I think it will become something people tour at the Trump Library and that would be perfectly legal.
murder Member	Wed May 14 17:58:52 "If Trump does continue to use the plane after his term without paying for it then that would go against the act." If he has the option to keep it it's a violation of the law. It's either his or the governments. If it's the government's, then he has no option to take it whether he tries to pay for it or not. If he isn't buying it at auction after it's been decommissioned. -
mexicant Member	Wed May 14 18:12:18 "mexicant are you somehow under the impression I voted for Trump?" Did I say you were? "My comments have nothing to do with who Qatar may or may not support. My comment is focused on one thing that being the gifting of this plane and whether or not it goes against the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966" Ah yes, how gullible you are and attempting to use technicality to excuse or justify this action. Either you are too obtuse to recognize how optically it is bad for the state (US) and how it further exemplifies Trump's ego that he considers this a personal gift using the DoD as their way to by-pass. And regardless your dismissal of Qater's involvement with Hamas, any other president would have turned this down because of those specific principles. "If Trump does continue to use the plane after his term without paying for it then that would go against the act." Oh by then is when you will have a problem with it? "You guys are trying to convict of a crime that can't happen for more than three years out and in my opinion will not happen. I think it will become something people tour at the Trump Library and that would be perfectly legal." Way to invoke your inner Lindsey Graham to come up with every ridiculous excuse for Trump to receive this plane under the guise its for the DoD. Let's not talking about the security that exist.
mexicant Member	Wed May 14 18:12:25 "mexicant are you somehow under the impression I voted for Trump?" Did I say you were? "My comments have nothing to do with who Qatar may or may not support. My comment is focused on one thing that being the gifting of this plane and whether or not it goes against the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966" Ah yes, how gullible you are and attempting to use technicality to excuse or justify this action. Either you are too obtuse to recognize how optically it is bad for the state (US) and how it further exemplifies Trump's ego that he considers this a personal gift using the DoD as their way to by-pass. And regardless your dismissal of Qater's involvement with Hamas, any other president would have turned this down because of those specific principles. "If Trump does continue to use the plane after his term without paying for it then that would go against the act." Oh by then is when you will have a problem with it? "You guys are trying to convict of a crime that can't happen for more than three years out and in my opinion will not happen. I think it will become something people tour at the Trump Library and that would be perfectly legal." Way to invoke your inner Lindsey Graham to come up with every ridiculous excuse for Trump to receive this plane under the guise its for the DoD. Let's not talk about the security that exist.
obaminated Member	Wed May 14 20:55:25 I wonder if trump has ever turned down a gift.
murder Member	Wed May 14 21:16:20 I don't know, but the Saudis rolled out a mobile McDonald's, and I'm pretty sure he didn't turn away his happy meal.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 14 21:36:17 i look forward to the whining complaints when he learns he can't use it right away also i'd like to hear anyone justify going to the expense of altering the plane only to decommission it soon after... plus if it's a gift to the Def Dept, there's zero sense retiring it & giving to his 'library'
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 14 23:38:05 post-'presidency' Trump: "my beautiful amazing best library in history isn't built yet, and it would be stupid to just let this plane go to waste, so i'll keep using it. When my library is built i'll totally turn it over... should be around the time i release my taxes which as i've said, i totally want to do" cultist archivist w/ tears in eyes: "we agree, sir!" (currently Rubio has top position after he corruptly/crazily fired the last one, but sure to be an even bigger cultist by then) when/if 'library' built, Trump: "oops, there's no room for the huge plane so it would be stupid for me to stop using it..." (also on that subject i'll bet the 'library' will be built on his properties so he can make money off it)
murder Member	Thu May 15 00:48:26 Trump will be dead by then.
kargen Member	Thu May 15 12:34:02 "Oh by then is when you will have a problem with it?" yep. Just like I don't worry about my neighbor being a bank robber until they rob the bank. I don't think every time he visits the bank he should be banned from the bank because what if he robs it. "Let's not talk about the security that exist." I see you missed the part where they said the plane would undergo a thorough inspection. Not that that has any bearing on whether or not it is legal for Trump to accept the offer. You keep trying to run off on a tangent. The truth is Trump can accept the gift as allowed by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966. None of your sidebar distractions change that.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 15 12:49:58 what if your neighbor has a history of robbing liquor stores... plus no need to go to the bank Trump took classified docs, & says he was allowed to do so to this day, even though NOBODY agrees w/ or repeats his argument (show me otherwise)... & has lied that the docs have been returned to him to pretend the case was bullshit at one point, claiming he took the docs for his 'presidential' library, so even closer connection (not that classified docs would go in a library... also was him just pretending to be like Obama where he lied Obama took millions of docs to Chicago for his library (& lied many classified)... all a lie as the docs never left Nat'l Archive control) he's a criminal, a fraud, a liar, & he absolutely wants that plane for himself (why else would it even be announced from the start that it would weirdly go to his library)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 15 13:04:08 ...also he incredibly obviously is influenced by praise & bribes
mexicant Member	Thu May 15 15:45:09 "yep. Just like I don't worry about my neighbor being a bank robber until they rob the bank. I don't think every time he visits the bank he should be banned from the bank because what if he robs it." I am sure if we go by the history of your posts on UP kargen, we can surely find gems of your critique of previous administrations, not republicans, where you have raised alarms. Your particular stance that this is only smoke and no fire exists is rather humorous and only further demonstrates your hypocrisy. "I see you missed the part where they said the plane would undergo a thorough inspection." Which will costs millions. So glad the DOGE money saved us enough to do that. " they said the plane would undergo a thorough inspection. Not that that has any bearing on whether or not it is legal for Trump to accept the offer. " Except many legal scholars disagree with you. And the sheer fact of how badly the optics are accepting it from a regime that supports Hamas financially. But, who cares, right? We want to focus on the important stuff, this is a gift to Trump, "luckily" this may be legal, damn the other principles. So glad you're demonstrating your priorities here. "You keep trying to run off on a tangent. The truth is Trump can accept the gift as allowed by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966." Dependant upon the value which has to be approved by congress, the workaround is that this is "going to the DoD", but hey, let's not get into the details, because this only further demonstrate how much of a shill, shallow, follower you really are Mr. "You Think I voted for Trump." "None of your sidebar distractions change that." No distractions, its the very fabric as to why many, included your republican counterparts, particular those of the magakind are actually criticizing this move. But, you like to ignore those particulars.
kargen Member	Thu May 15 16:31:54 "I am sure if we go by the history of your posts on UP kargen" Give it a shot. "Which will costs millions. So glad the DOGE money saved us enough to do that." and that would be a good reason not to do it and have Trump use the current plane. Still doesn't change whether or not it is legal for Trump to accept the plane. "Except many legal scholars disagree with you." and many agree. Go read the act I referred to. The plane falls within those guidelines. Might not be a good idea to accept the gift but legally there is no reason not to.
mexicant Member	Thu May 15 16:51:28 "Give it a shot." It's a given, hence why the comment made. You have a history of hypocrisy. "and that would be a good reason not to do it and have Trump use the current plane. Still doesn't change whether or not it is legal for Trump to accept the plane." That's the thing, its in contention. http://www...r-plane-unconstitutional-gift/ "nd many agree. Go read the act I referred to. The plane falls within those guidelines. Might not be a good idea to accept the gift but legally there is no reason not to." I get it broken record. You still want to support the move under the guise that this is "legal". Amazing if this was anyone else other than Trump, how you would challenge the legality of it. I cited mine for why it wouldn't be legal.
mexicant Member	Thu May 15 16:51:32 "Give it a shot." It's a given, hence why the comment made. You have a history of hypocrisy. "and that would be a good reason not to do it and have Trump use the current plane. Still doesn't change whether or not it is legal for Trump to accept the plane." That's the thing, its in contention. http://www...r-plane-unconstitutional-gift/ "nd many agree. Go read the act I referred to. The plane falls within those guidelines. Might not be a good idea to accept the gift but legally there is no reason not to." I get it broken record. You still want to support the move under the guise that this is "legal". Amazing if this was anyone else other than Trump, how you would challenge the legality of it. I cited mine for why it wouldn't be legal.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 15 17:01:53 Meanwhile, when France, who unlike Qatar werent supporting Hamas but were instead supporting the USA in overthrowing the UK sent Benjamin Franklin a snuff box, he first asked congress if it was ok to accept it. Even then it still outraged Americans and led to the decision that "under the Constitution, before even the most ordinary gift from a foreign power could be accepted, it would have to go through congressional approval in what Jefferson called “the gridiron of Congress.”
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