Utopia Talk / Politics / Canada elections

Rugian Member	Mon Apr 28 08:08:52 In a brilliant 4D chess move, Trump has singlehandedly caused the Liberals to go from surefire losers to having a real shot at winning reelection, thus ensuring that Canada will be mismanaged into the ground for anoth3r five years. The frontrunner is a literal globalist banker who is cosplaying as someone willing to be tough with the US, even though our military could overrun the entire country in the time it took the Nazis to conquer Denmark. The citizens will be crying out for annexation to the US in no time.
jergul large member	Mon Apr 28 09:08:46 He is indeed a literal globalist government banker (he has served on the Canadian and UK Central banks). Though he will not run Canada into the ground for that reason. He knows his shit (except for better than passable french of course. Prolly cost the liberal party a few seats in Quebec). Goes to show how Canadians really do not want to be part of the US. *Elbow up* :).
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 10:14:31 I'll probably have to eat these words but there is no way Mark Carney wins, except maybe by virtue of the fact half the country isn't aware of the election. Remember that Canadians on Facebook are the exposed to zero and can share zero political content.
jergul large member	Mon Apr 28 11:01:04 Voter participation is looking to be N of 70%. Shall I pick you up a bottle of tobasco sauce for later?
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 11:05:29 That is a fairytale number. Polls stopped working at all a long time ago as measures of anything accurate. I assure you, nothing in Canada gets 70% participation ever. Not even hockey.
Dukhat Member	Mon Apr 28 11:06:52 I really don't give a shit about Canada. It's amazing how brain dead the right has become that they care so much about having another nazi become elected elsewhere.
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 11:08:01 Old men who crack up at Nazi jokes, who can't understand why polling is no longer a legitimate measuring technique, discussing elections in countries they don't understand or know anything about. Lulz
Rugian Member	Mon Apr 28 11:08:40 Pierre Poilievre is a Nazi now? Lmao
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 11:09:22 I can't wait until wtb and jergul learn about our boy Doug...
Rugian Member	Mon Apr 28 11:38:02 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Good luck to the Great people of Canada. Elect the man who has the strength and wisdom to cut your taxes in half, increase your military power, for free, to the highest level in the World, have your Car, Steel, Aluminum, Lumber, Energy, and all other businesses, QUADRUPLE in size, WITH ZERO TARIFFS OR TAXES, if Canada becomes the cherished 51st. State of the United States of America. No more artificially drawn line from many years ago. Look how beautiful this land mass would be. Free access with NO BORDER. ALL POSITIVES WITH NO NEGATIVES. IT WAS MEANT TO BE! America can no longer subsidize Canada with the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars a year that we have been spending in the past. It makes no sense unless Canada is a State! Apr 28, 2025, 8:36 AM http://tru...Trump/posts/114415618596069518
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 11:46:57 This is the funniest thing to Canadians who A) Aren't rabid liberal zombies B) don't care about politics C) want to watch the world burn Because Trump ain't ready for Doug Ford, poor guy. Gonna watch Pax Americana fail because of Ontario.
jergul large member	Mon Apr 28 13:15:42 Pillz I know about your boy Doug and his brother before him. We had threads. :).
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 13:19:54 Then perhaps can appreciate how amusing Trump's tweets are for Canadians who don't suffer from TDS and can enjoy a good show when we see one
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 28 13:46:13 yeah, he hilariously wants to wreck your economy w/ fake rationaled tariffs to force your submission hahaha... such a funny guy
Average Ameriacn Member	Mon Apr 28 14:03:21 This is the last Canadian election we will ever see
patom Member	Mon Apr 28 15:31:56 "Remember that Canadians on Facebook are the exposed to zero and can share zero political content." Someone should tell my relatives in Canada that they can't talk politics on Facebook. They must have been out of the loop.
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 15:38:52 You can talk it, but you can't post any stories and we get none in our feeds. The best work around is screenshots of headlines.
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 15:41:34 Canadians will no longer have access to news content on Facebook and Instagram, Meta says Bill C-18, the Online News Act, received royal assent after passing House and Senate Jessica Mundie · CBC News · Posted: Jun 22, 2023 4:19 PM EDT | Last Updated: June 22, 2023 http://www...ws-act-meta-facebook-1.6885634
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Apr 28 16:00:56 Ever since Covid Canada has been surprising me with one draconian policy after another.
Pillz Member	Mon Apr 28 16:21:51 Instagram circumvents this law mostly because posts are just 'what do you think' hot takes. And instagram is beautifully racist as an ecosystem, so news censorship matters a lot less in the big picture of the ideological war for public opinion there.
Seb Member	Tue Apr 29 02:35:58 Ooof. Going from odds-on favourite to be next PM to losing your seat to a guy called Bruce Fanjoy. The writers are getting a bit meta.
jergul large member	Tue Apr 29 04:09:55 Well, the polls turned out to be relatively accurate. *Hands Pillz' tobasco sauce*. Looks like a minority liberal government that can get confidence and support from BQ or NDP.
jergul large member	Tue Apr 29 04:11:38 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Fanjoy
murder Member	Tue Apr 29 09:51:51 These election results are a hostile and political act on the part of Canada. Prepare for more tariffs!
murder Member	Tue Apr 29 09:53:15 Trump no longer wants Canada as our cherished 51st state. He will now only offer them US territory status along with Greenland.
Rugian Member	Tue Apr 29 10:01:59 Maybe Mark Carney is secretly a pro-annexation guy and Trump was playing 36DD chess in ensuring that he was elected. I mean, its possible.
Pillz Member	Tue Apr 29 11:53:44 Welp. US territory is a lot more appealing than a Carney prime ministership.
jergul large member	Tue Apr 29 16:38:24 68% turnout. Not N of 70, but still way better than 62% last time.
Pillz Member	Tue Apr 29 16:43:58 The good news is, this likely doesn't go more then two years. The bad news is, we gotta mobilize the mandem to vote next election.
jergul large member	Wed Apr 30 04:07:28 Hard to see how the result is not a shift to the center-right. The PM is a central banker after all and a gutted NDP makes it easier to seek legislative support from the conservatives nationally on a bill by bill basis. So even legislature will tend to be written to get conservative support. And then you have the provinces. AB and SK. Well you don't want them taking Trump up on his offer (though no doubt the pretence of independence will be made as nobody actually wants to be annexed by the US). Policies for the provinces will need to give them more of what they want. For Alberta its basically just drill baby drill. BQ has said it will put sovereignity on hold for now as, well, Quebec certainly does not want to be surrounded by 380 million Anglos.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 01 10:08:48 Lol First Canada, now Australia? Conservatives fear the Trump slump is spreading Brisbane, Australia CNN — The man vying to become Australia’s next prime minister has spent weeks trying to distance himself from comparisons to US President Donald Trump. “I’m my own person,” opposition Liberal Party leader Peter Dutton insisted, when asked for his thoughts on “Temu Trump,” the label given to him by critics referring to the Chinese website with a reputation for cheap copies. Political analysts say comparisons to Trump have eaten away at any lead Dutton had over incumbent center-left Labor Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who is topping opinion polls before Saturday’s vote. Ex-police officer Dutton became opposition leader after the center-right Liberal Party was swept from power three years ago, bringing with him a reputation as the uncompromising strongman of the party’s right wing – a former minister for defense, home affairs and immigration. He’s been accused of stoking culture wars, claims Australia takes in too many migrants, and days ago branded the nation’s public broadcaster “hate media.” “His instincts are those of a right-wing populist. I have no doubt about that, so they do bear resemblance to the kind of politics and rhetoric we’ve associated with Trump,” said Frank Bongiorno, professor of history at the Australian National University. The Trumpian strategy appears to have been encouraged by senior party members and Australia’s richest woman, mining magnate Gina Rinehart, who attended the US president’s inauguration and backs his “drill baby drill” mantra, according to reports from 2024. But what sounded like a vote winner backfired when the US president announced global tariffs, turning a prospective Trump bump into a Trump slump – something Canada’s conservatives also experienced this week when they failed to win the national election. Dutton also faces the potential ignominy of losing his own seat in parliament, as happened to Canadian Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre. Dutton holds Dickson, a constituency in the outer suburbs of Brisbane, by just 1.7% – and rivals are circling. ‘The election pivoted’ The most blatant grab for Trump supporters comes from mining billionaire Clive Palmer, of Titanic II fame, who launched Trump-inspired party the Trumpet of Patriots, vowing to “end the two-party duopoly and make Australia great.” In a program redolent of Trump’s early moves since returning to the White House, Dutton promised 41,000 federal job cuts, an end to work-from-home privileges and an overhaul of “woke” school agendas – some of which he’s had to roll back. He also appointed a shadow minister for government efficiency, who told a recent rally the Liberal Party would “make Australia great again” – a comment that she later said she didn’t realize she’d made. As recently as January, the Liberal leader was on a path to victory, according to Simon Jackman, an honorary professor at the University of Sydney and former chief executive officer of its US Studies Centre. “Then along comes Donald Trump… and the election just pivoted,” Jackman said. Australians take an avid interest in US politics, so they were watching when the big US pharmaceutical companies complained that the Australian government’s subsidy program was undervaluing US medicines; as US trade advisor Peter Navarro warned that Australian aluminum exports were “killing” America’s aluminum market; and when Democrat Sen. Mark Warner demanded to know why Australia, “an incredibly important national security partner,” had been “whacked” with 10% tariffs. But it was the post-tariff selling on international markets that really caught their attention, and older voters watched in horror as their retirement savings tracked south, Jackman said. “The narrative flipped from being sort of looking backwards at Labor’s economic performance to looking forward and (saying), ‘Oh my goodness, the world is very different and dangerous and insecure, and our closest ally and strategic partner is saying all these horrible things about us. I thought the Americans liked us. What’s going on?’” said Jackman. “Funnily enough, Trump is probably seen as a bigger threat to the global order than China,” said Jackman. The US president’s unpredictability, transactional approach to foreign affairs, and readiness to rip up past agreements has focused attention on whether Australia can trust the US under Trump. Critics of AUKUS, Australia’s key security deal with the US and United Kingdom, have cited the president’s recent behavior as proof that it’s too dangerous to outsource the country’s national security. “Donald Trump is a dangerous demagogue and is a threat to peace, a threat to democracy, and is also a threat to Australia,” said Adam Bandt, leader of the Greens, Australia’s third-largest party, which is pushing for more housing, support for renters and stronger climate action. http://edi...es-australia-election-intl-hnk
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