Utopia Talk / Politics / The 2024 Russian presidential election

Rugian Member	Sun Mar 17 00:17:14 The candidates: -Vladislav Davankov, New People Party -Nikolay Kharitonov, Communist Party -Vladimir Putin, Independent -Leonid Slutsky, Liberal Democratic Party of Russia If I had to hazard a guess, I'd wager that Vladimir Putin will be the winner. He has managed to save Russian democracy by passing laws against "fake news" and vigorously prosecuting corruption and treason, and he has not been afraid about cracking down on the insurrectionists who have been rioting on behalf of the Ukrainian enemy. This is what a well-functioning democracy looks like and Russia has Putin to thank for it. Anyone else want to bet on who wins?
murder Member	Sun Mar 17 02:07:11 *puts $5 on Slutsky* I have a good feeling about this. :o)
jergul large member	Sun Mar 17 05:46:24 Recent polling gives Putin about 55% of the vote, so I think you are correct. Indeed, the Duma has passed to pretty rigerous laws. Sadly with mass popular support. Nobody wants a repeat of the 90s or worse. That is the decade when the West lost Russia.
Rugian Member	Sun Mar 17 11:00:21 murder: The Slutsman is polling at 2%...so we'll give you 50:1 odds on that bet :p jergul: "That is the decade when the West lost Russia." I'd actually be inclined to agree with your post, but I can't help but feel repulsed at the clear happiness you have about Russia remaining outside of the Western world. Anyway, there's already anecdotal accounts of Russian election officials stuffing ballot boxes, which seems to be a total waste of time as Putin would likely win the contest regardless. Murdering your opponents and running against nonentities tends to help with that.
jergul large member	Sun Mar 17 11:22:13 Ruggy Not sure why you think I am happy about Russia outside of the West. I invested a lot of time and energy positioning myself for the great inclusion of Russia I thought was going to happen. Now, well, I am never going there again. I feel like I owned a hotel in pre castro Cuba :D. Nonentities? Two of them are obviously using the election for positioning for the next election, the third is doing a grudge thing. He will siphon off votes from Putin. Putin will get far fewer votes than his approval rating.
murder Member	Sun Mar 17 15:08:40 "That is the decade when the West lost Russia." Russia was always lost. No nation that inhales their own mythology as much as they had was ever going to accept being sidekick. Not while they still had weak neighbors to bully. The mistake wasn't mistreating Russia. The mistake was not continuing to turn up the heat until Russia disintegrated.
Paramount Member	Sun Mar 17 16:29:31 Russia’s election is more inclusive than American election. http://youtu.be/um-Or3kaieM I also believe that Putin has far support from Russians than any western leader has from its people. Take Scholz, Macron or Biden for an example. All them could only dream to have such strong support as Putin have.
Paramount Member	Sun Mar 17 16:30:11 *far more support
jergul large member	Sun Mar 17 18:03:16 Murder Well, no use crying over spilled milk.
murder Member	Sun Mar 17 18:25:03 It's never too late.
jergul large member	Sun Mar 17 18:29:26 Until it is. Focus on the important stuff like rearming Israel once it is done with its things.
Paramount Member	Mon Mar 18 13:11:33 Putin won! The West has managed to unite Russia who is facing an existential threat from the West. Many Russians has decided to vote for the first time and they voted for Mr Putin. Western leaders is freaking out and can't believe that Putin is very popular in Russia.
obaminated Member	Mon Mar 18 16:31:50 Rugian starts a clear trolling post and somehow, someway, jergul genuinely falls for it. Good grief.
Rugian Member	Mon Mar 18 16:36:44 Yeah, I'm disappointed that no one caught the clear Trump suppression tactics comparison. Then again, it's my fault, I didn't put Trump in the thread title so all of UP's usual leftists avoided this like the plague.
jergul large member	Mon Mar 18 17:11:54 Obam Every thread in this forum is a troll thread. Do try to keep up.
murder Member	Mon Mar 18 17:25:55 Pretty much.
jergul large member	Mon Mar 18 17:29:23 Ruggy Puting caught the comparison at least. He has commented on the use of administrative tools including the courts against a presidential candidate.
LazyCommunist Member	Tue Mar 19 13:13:07 I hope that he will now use his absolute power to annihilate every enemy of the future communist Russian empire!!! http://www...on-with-photos-of-mass-hanging Putin’s Friends Celebrate Re-Election With Photos of Mass Hanging Images of Russian “traitors” being executed were shown on state TV in a chilling warning about the next six years of the “Supreme Commander.” Published Mar. 18, 2024 Russian President Vladimir Putin continued to maintain his unrelenting grip on power through the latest sham election, in which none of the other contenders had any hopes, plans or even dreams of winning. The only peace candidate, Boris Nadezhdin, was threatened by top pro-Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov and prevented from participating in the election. Some of his supporters are now being arrested and their homes are being searched by law enforcement. The main opposition leader, Alexei Navalny, died suddenly in prison, just in time for Putin’s big show. Leonid Slutsky of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), who ended up in the last place, hammered home the obvious, as he said during a TASS press conference, “In these elections, the main point is not victory but participation.” Slutsky added, “This percentage—the difference between the three candidates—does not matter in the slightest. It matters that we participated in the historic campaign for the Russian presidential election, which once again confirmed the authority of the leader of the nation.” State media’s coverage consisted of jubilant proclamations, juxtaposed with violent threats to any opponents of Putin’s regime—foreign and domestic. Appearing on Monday’s broadcast of a state TV show 60 Minutes, State Duma member Oleg Matveychev proclaimed, “These elections were truly unprecedented and, by the way, legitimate.” He added, “The result is unprecedented and historic! People came, first and foremost, to support our guys that are now fighting on the frontlines. Everyone saw their vote as a shot towards the enemy.” During Saturday’s broadcast on TV channel Solovyov Live, while the electoral kabuki performance was underway, host Marat Bulatov described the process as a mere “ritual,” designed to support Putin. Commentator Vitaly Serukhanov added, “Everyone understands, Russia is currently in a certain historic stage. It would be incorrect, not to say criminal, not to support the Supreme Commander.” Serukhanov asserted that Putin’s re-election had global implications, stating, “You can see that tectonic shifts are happening all over the world. The North American hegemon is falling.” Host Marat Bulatov added, “These are historic times! We are becoming the center—even if not the center of creation, then at least the center of global changes.” Referring to the enemies of Putin’s regime as “Vlasovites,” Bulatov said that a picture is worth a 1,000 words and put up a photograph of what happened to Andrey Vlasov, a controversial figure in Russian history. Showcasing a graphic picture of a mass hanging, Bulatov said, “Here they are! This is how they ended up. There is no other way. Enough with half-measures. Traitors have to be dealt with in a radical way.” Serukhanov chimed in, “This is it, this is the only way.” During his jubilant appearance at his campaign headquarters on Sunday, Putin made a similar reference: "During the Great Patriotic War, there was a formation created by the traitor Vlasov—the Vlasovites. They also fought against their homeland with weapons in their hands. How they ended up is well known.” It should be noted that Russian propaganda uses broad strokes in describing not only armed resistance, but Putin’s opposition leaders as “Vlasovites.” For years, Putin’s top propagandists referred to Alexei Navalny as a “traitor” and argued that he deserved to die. Gruesome imagery and threatening messaging were accompanied by extreme excitement about Putin’s re-election, reminiscent of North Korea’s theatrical celebrations. State TV host Marina Kim and actor Vyacheslav Manucharov seemed to be beside themselves during Monday’s broadcast for Solovyov Live straight from the Red Square, celebrating the 10th anniversary of the annexation of Crimea and Putin’s re-election. A group of grim-faced men in folk outfits silently stood behind them. Manucharov turned to the extras and urged them to join him in yelling “Hurrah!” Kim excitedly announced, “I feel like a child! I want to simultaneously cry and explode! It’s a feeling of total happiness!” She added, “I spent practically all night at Putin’s campaign headquarters, all of us are celebrating the electoral victory of Vladimir Putin! We won’t forget this victory!” Manucharov excitedly exclaimed, “This is an extraordinary number! Absolute trust and love of the people! Total happiness! We’re glad we can finally voice it on-air and congratulate our Supreme Commander with his stunning victory! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!” During his Monday’s appearance on the program At Dawn, weatherman Evgeny Tishkovets went even further and claimed that even nature is celebrating Putin’s re-election. He pompously asserted, “Our fifth ocean, the sky, is rejoicing over the victory of our president!”
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