Utopia Talk / Politics / Proud Boy idiot gets 22 years in prison

murder Member	Wed Sep 06 05:03:23 Proud Boys’ Enrique Tarrio gets record 22 years in prison for Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was sentenced Tuesday to 22 years in prison for orchestrating a failed plot to keep Donald Trump in power after the Republican lost the 2020 election, capping the case with the stiffest punishment that has been handed down yet for the U.S. Capitol attack. Tarrio, 39, pleaded for leniency before the judge imposed the prison term topping the 18-year sentences given to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and one-time Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean for seditious conspiracy and other convictions stemming from the Jan. 6, 2021, riot. Tarrio, who led the neofacist group as it became a force in mainstream Republican circles, lowered his head after the sentence was imposed, then squared his shoulders. He raised his hand and made a “V” gesture with his fingers as he was led out of the courtroom in orange jail garb. His sentencing comes as the Justice Department prepares to put Trump on trial at the same courthouse in Washington on charges that the then-president illegally schemed to cling to power that he knew had been stripped away by voters. Rising to speak before the sentence was handed down, Tarrio called Jan. 6 a “national embarrassment,” and apologized to the police officers who defended the Capitol and the lawmakers who fled in fear. His voice cracked as he said he let down his family and vowed that he is done with politics. “I am not a political zealot. Inflicting harm or changing the results of the election was not my goal,” Tarrio said. “Please show me mercy,” he said, adding, “I ask you that you not take my 40s from me.” U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly, who was appointed to the bench by Trump, said Tarrio was motivated by “revolutionary zeal” to lead the conspiracy that resulted in “200 men, amped up for battle, encircling the Capitol.” Noting that Tarrio had not previously shown any remorse publicly for his crimes, the judge said a stiff punishment was necessary to deter future political violence. “It can’t happen again. It can’t happen again,” the judge repeated. Tarrio and three lieutenants were convicted in May of seditious conspiracy and other crimes after a months-long trial that served as a vivid reminder of the violent chaos fueled by Trump’s lies about the election that helped inspire right-wing extremists like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. Prosecutors had sought 33 years behind bars for Tarrio, describing him as the ringleader of a plot to use violence to shatter the cornerstone of American democracy and overturn the election victory by Joe Biden, a Democrat, over Trump, the Republican incumbent. Prosecutor Conor Mulroe told the judge that the Proud Boys came dangerously close to succeeding in their plot — and noted that “it didn’t take rifles or explosives.” “There was a very real possibility we were going to wake up on Jan. 7 in a full-blown constitutional crisis,” Mulroe said, with “300 million Americans having no idea who the next president would be or how it would be decided.” 0 seconds of 32 secondsVolume 90% U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris sat down with Associated Press reporter Chris Megerian in Jakarta, Indonesia on Wednesday. She spoke about democracy and accountability regarding the January 6 Capitol riot. Tarrio wasn’t in Washington, D.C, when Proud Boys members joined thousands of Trump supporters, who smashed windows, beat police officers and poured into the House and Senate chambers as lawmakers met to certify Biden’s victory. But prosecutors say the Miami resident organized and led the Proud Boys’ assault from afar, inspiring followers with his charisma and penchant for propaganda. Tarrio’s lawyers denied the Proud Boys had any plan to attack the Capitol or stop the certification of Biden’s victory. They argued that prosecutors used Tarrio as a scapegoat for Trump, who spoke at the “Stop the Steal” rally near the White House on Jan. 6 and urged his supporters to “fight like hell.” Tarrio’s younger sister, fiancé and mother tearfully urged the judge to show mercy before the sentence was imposed. Tarrio took off his glasses and wiped his eyes as he listened to his mother speak. The defense asked for no more than 15 years in prison, arguing that their client should not be punished as harshly as the Oath Keepers’ Rhodes, who was present on Capitol grounds on Jan. 6. Defense attorney Nayib Hassan told reporters after the hearing that they will appeal. Tarrio’s lawyers described him as a “keyboard ninja,” who was prone to “talk trash,” but had no intentions of overthrowing the government. The Proud Boys’ only plans that day were to protest the election and confront left-wing antifa activists, attorney Sabino Jauregui told the judge. “My client is no terrorist,” Jauregui said. “My client is a misguided patriot.” Tarrio had been arrested two days before the Capitol riot on charges that he defaced a Black Lives Matter banner during an earlier rally in the nation’s capital, and he had complied with a judge’s order to leave the city after his arrest. The judge agreed with prosecutors that the Proud Boys’ crimes could be punished as “terrorism” — increasing the recommended sentence under federal guidelines. But he ultimately sentenced the Proud Boys to shorter prison terms than those sought by prosecutors. The backbone of the government’s case was hundreds of messages exchanged by Proud Boys in the days leading up to Jan. 6 that prosecutors say showed how the extremists saw themselves as revolutionaries and celebrated the Capitol attack, which sent lawmakers running into hiding. The judge pointed to Tarrio’s messages cheering on the Capitol attack and the Proud Boys’ role in it. “Make no mistake,” Tarrio wrote in one message. “We did this.” In another post as the Proud Boys swarmed the Capitol, Tarrio commanded: “Do what must be done.” In a Proud Boys encrypted group chat later that day someone asked what they should do next. Tarrio responded, “Do it again.” He is the final Proud Boys leader convicted of seditious conspiracy to receive his punishment. Three fellow Proud Boys found guilty by a Washington jury of the rarely used sedition charge were sentenced to prison terms ranging from 15 to 18 years. The Justice Department is appealing the 18-year prison sentence of Rhodes, the Oath Keepers founder, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy in a separate case, as well as the sentences of other members of his antigovernment militia group that were lighter than what prosecutors had sought. Prosecutors had requested 25 years in prison for Rhodes. http://apn...60222b3e1e54902db2bbbb219dc3fb
murder Member	Wed Sep 06 05:05:24 Things are going to get real awkward when he tries to join the Aryan Brotherhood prison gang for protection.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Sep 06 05:15:51 Democrats really pushing for right-wing reactionaries to do a political violence as election season kicks off. It's incredibly transparent. • More unjust prosecutions • More absurdly long sentences • More anarcho-tyranny • More unchecked left-wing insanity And if they can continue to make the DNC's illegal activity look common and completely unaddressed by the corrupt DoJ, then right-wing reactionaries are created in response, since they feel (rightly) that the justice system is infiltrated and unjust. This (wrongly) activates fringe actors and Manchurian Candidates, who select stupid but available targets which can be propagandized further by the DNC, creating the boogeyman about which they warned the DNC's useful-idiot voters. ("See! They existed all along! [Because we *made* them!]") There's a potential flaw, of course. If the right continues to not take the bait, then the DNC is forced to take its other, even more psychotic options. They have their own left-wing Manchurian Candidates, which can provoke more political violence (as in the 2020 DNC-Insurrection Riots). Even people such as Scott Adams have finally figured out that the DNC wants Trump a55a55inated if the lawfare fails. But, yeah. The wiser move is to bulldoze these DNC propaganda ploys and keep pushing for GOP candidates to promise to pardon all January 6th political prisoners.
patom Member	Wed Sep 06 05:23:09 Wonder how long it will be appealed to the Trump Supreme Court?
Sam Adams Member	Wed Sep 06 10:43:39 Seems excessive when compared to blm rioter punishment.
Average Ameriacn Member	Wed Sep 06 10:57:15 No problem Trump will pardon them all next year.
murder Member	Wed Sep 06 16:26:44 "Seems excessive when compared to blm rioter punishment." I think they doubled his sentence for being an anchor baby.
Forwyn Member	Wed Sep 06 20:22:48 "Seems excessive when compared to blm rioter punishment." 22 years for non-weapons involvement in a protest is absolutely excessive, even if it progresses to a riot. Even sans obvious corruption and political targeting, it is clearly ivory tower bullshit. Burn businesses, don't walk around in places of power without permission.
Forwyn Member	Wed Sep 06 20:24:34 "Noting that Tarrio had not previously shown any remorse publicly for his crimes, the judge said a stiff punishment was necessary to deter future political violence." Lol. If you don't do a perp walk on social media, you will spend half your life in a cage. On the contrary, this is an incentive to up the ante. You're going away anyway, why not shoot faggots like this in the chest?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 06 20:52:28 he was convicted of seditious conspiracy because that’s what it was with their cult militia
obaminated Member	Wed Sep 06 22:14:32 Yeah this is bad and the comically long length is purely political and reminds me of putin sentencing his political opponents. The left has already caused the right to lose trust and faith in the government institutions. Now we are essentially a ticking time bomb before the violence kicks in. At some point these flash mobs of colored thieves are going to get mowed down by pissed off store owners and it's going to start race riots.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 06 22:59:11 the judge who sentenced him is a Trump appointee, former counsel to Chuck Grassley, and member of the Federalist Society standard Biden communist marxist
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 07 00:18:23 Yeah you don't understand what I mean when I say the left has caused the right to collectively lose faith in government institutions. When I say this is bad I don't mean it in a partisan way like you would. I mean it is bad for the country because it is yet another example of the federal government abusing its authority and power over people who question it. This guy wasn't even at the "riots" and they gave him 22 years. People who commit murders get lesser sentences.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 07 00:57:53 "the left has caused the right to collectively lose faith in government institutions" and your 'party' is selecting the lawless fraud cult leader who has been spewing poison about our institutions literally daily for many years with media outlets that don't inform the viewers he's a total fucking liar & criminal & instead mislead the viewers to keep them fired up to vote R (or just for ratings), despite the massive harm he's doing to the country
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Sep 07 04:34:35 [obaminated]: "Now we are essentially a ticking time bomb before the violence kicks in" Yep. A lot of the DNC's useful idiots are still completely oblivious to the level of violence that these sorts of prosecutions are going to cause. They still (very stupidly) believe that U.S. institutions would be totally spotless if it weren't for Trump — that being how completely deranged their perceptions have become. They still do not understand that the reaction against Trump is *due* to the poison spewing forth *from* the institutions. So, again, I hope that the left — who have stoked their myopic TDS in a masturbatory derangement on behalf of the totalitarian state — love seeing January 6th protestors sentenced to absurd prison sentences as much as they love ultraviolence.. because it is ultraviolence that awaits if the state continues down this deranged path. And the state knows it and wants it.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Sep 07 04:37:46 I don't like Scott Adams on a lot of stuff, but this has him back to good takes: "Democrats have given us. . . The ADL to destroy free speech. Teachers Unions to destroy education. No bail, fewer police to destroy retail and cities Climate alarm to destroy our energy sector. Activists to destroy our domestic nuclear energy future. Bad judges (J6 outcomes) to destroy the credibility of our judicial system Fake News to destroy patriotism and replace it with division. Pandemic mandates to destroy our mental health and the future of our children. Ukraine War to destroy whatever is left of us. --- You have to respect the thoroughness of it all." [September 6th, 2023] http://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1699391885838835962
murder Member	Thu Sep 07 07:26:55 "Ukraine War to destroy whatever is left of us." ^ When you've just run out of material.
www.yeswecansong.com Member	Thu Sep 07 10:31:39 Owned! http://twitter.com/rparloff/status/1699751415076266140 Before trial, USA offered Proud Boys plea deals, revealed yesterday. They passed. Result: Offer | Sentence after trial Tarrio 9-11 yrs| 22 yrs Nordean 6-8 yrs | 18 yrs Biggs 6-8 yrs | 17 yrs Rehl 6-7 yrs | 15 yrs Pezzola 4-5 yrs | 10 yrs
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 07 11:43:35 It's almost as if the thought of them going to jail on trumped up charges was absurd. Little did they know how far left controlled arms of the government would go to make examples of them.
Rugian Member	Thu Sep 07 12:20:45 I like how the left views these trials as anything other than validation of the idea that the deep state exists, and that it hates us.
Rugian Member	Thu Sep 07 12:24:35 Liberals have turned into authoritarians, and abuse the levers of state to persecute us. Meanwhile, they actively cheer on literal terrorists who set our cities on fire, instituted a Maoist-style Cultural Revolution to purge our national history and instititions, and threatened widespread violence if the wrong guy got elected in 2020. We are living in the worst of times.
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 07 12:31:45 The left has effectively broken the social contract. On nearly every level they have betrayed half the country. We can't trust the politicians, but that's expected. We can't trust our intelligence agencies. We can't trust our health agencies. We can't trust our scientific agencies. We can't trust our education systems. We can't trust the police system to protect our businesses or homes from rampant criminal actions. Entire cities like Seattle and San Francisco have been or are in the process of being destroyed to do leftist policing practices and behavior. And the left thinks nothing will come of this. We are now just waiting for the inevitable economic downturn where food prices begin to hit hard before more drastic steps start being taken.
murder Member	Thu Sep 07 14:16:25 People whining that the government won't just let them destroy it without repercussions.
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 07 14:22:04 No one is arguing the Jan 6th "riot" was attempting to destroy the government. Try again murder.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 07 15:11:02 just our electoral process & form of government
Paramount Member	Thu Sep 07 15:39:06 This ought to send the message that you don’t want to mess with the Left.
Rugian Member	Thu Sep 07 16:26:52 "just our electoral process" Trying to take advantage of legal loopholes in electoral law is neither a form of insurrection nor even criminal. "& form of government" [Citation needed]
LazyCommunist Member	Thu Sep 07 16:30:11 I smell American civil war :-)
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 07 16:51:32 It won't be a civil war. But it will be a breakdown in a lot of things until the right takes control of the situation again. As an example, there is talk about the government trying to issue mask mandates again. That would be Dead On Arrival. The public trust is broken and any attempt by the government to force people to wear masks again will be largely ignored. The people who wear masks will be in the minority but that is the sort of social indifference the right will do as of now. It'll get worse as the situation gets worse. Boycotting stores that have any signage of masking or vaccine shots etc.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 07 17:23:01 "Trying to take advantage of legal loopholes in electoral law is neither a form of insurrection nor even criminal" you think there exist "legal loopholes" where you can just be appointed winner of the election you lost? how is the fucking idiot the first to discover them? and if they were "legal" why was avoiding the Judicial branch entirely a linchpin of the plan... plus he's been criminally charged for it, so apparently it's criminal (& him wanting to delay rather than wanting a speedy trial... & his ally networks avoiding telling the audience any details of what happened & instead pushing bullshit that was 'same as Hillary/DNC')
Y2A Member	Thu Sep 07 20:09:53 the miami mafia finally getting some consequences for their actions. hope a "homie" stabs him in the can.
Y2A Member	Thu Sep 07 20:15:36 the groyper pass around that broke into pelosi's office, stole her laptop and tried to pawn it to a foreign power got 3 years. can you imagine what the retards on this board would be saying if a trans blm protester stormed the capitol, stole mccarthy's laptop and subsequently tried to sell it to Cuba and got off with a 3 year slap on the wrist? lol, full of shit hypocrites angry that a handful of these future breiviks face some actual consequences.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Sep 08 05:16:24 [TDS Bot]: "you think there exist "legal loopholes" where you can just be appointed winner of the election you lost?" Peak TDS Bot delusion. Top kek. [TDS Bot]: "plus he's been criminally charged for it, so apparently it's criminal" Spoke too soon! lol. XD Hey, guys. Did you know that being charged for a crime means that you committed a criminal act? I think totalitarian psychopath Nancy Pelosi said something similar. "Innocent until proven guilty" is so passé for totalitarian sycophants. But it doesn't matter. Tw cannot be reached with logic. He has surpassed a need for it. He needs only his hate. But again, I hope that the left's hate will comfort them when the ultraviolence begins. I hope that they understand that they supported the ultraviolence. I hope that they understand that they themselves fell into this trap of a false inevitability, being as they are leaves on a river that they do not have the arms to escape before they crash against the rocks.
murder Member	Fri Sep 08 05:32:06 "Trying to take advantage of legal loopholes in electoral law is neither a form of insurrection nor even criminal." This loophole you speak of ... is that the noose they were going to use on Pence and Pelosi?
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 08 11:06:06 Democratic operative who called for dismantling to Minneapolis police back in 2020 while supporting the BLM thugs has the red pill shoved up her asshole and is now calling for a return to normalcy. http://www...eapolis-Police-Department.html This is what I'm talking about when there is going to be a period of violence necessary to wake people up and return the political right to power. Unfortunately a lot of naive liberals will have to be raped, beaten and killed before enough of them realize their policies only embolden criminals and pedophiles.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 08 11:07:35 Until then the people on the right have stocked up on food, munitions and started homesteading. We will weather the storm that will hit urban cities a lot better than liberals who think the better angels of thugs will win out.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 08 11:11:15 Homeschooling is also on the rise, especially since lockdown when parents saw what propaganda was being force fed their children. There is now going to be grow an unfortunate chasm between the parents who view schooling as a place for their children to learn and prepare for the world at large and the parents who view schooling as a place thay provides free free and free daycare.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 08 11:37:15 As a place that provides free food and free daycare **
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Sep 10 01:12:04 [murder]: "This loophole you speak of ... is that the noose they were going to use on Pence and Pelosi?" Oh, sweet. Murder is floating that hilarious Regime lie of the scaffold on the Capitol lawn being a legitimate threat. Worth examining this idiocy more closely! This is an example of that propaganda: "‘So the Traitors Know the Stakes’: The Meaning of the Jan. 6 Gallows" [New York Times; June 16th, 2022] http://www...us/politics/jan-6-gallows.html Now, leftists here in UP are not perceptive, which goes with their slave morality (slaves are taught to lack perception so that they are more receptive to the Regime's lies; they see these lies to fill their sense of "truth"). But, notice the NYT image manipulation: the gallows is pictured to appear towering and iconic! So big! So scary! This is done by manipulating the point of view — like photographing a grasshopper closeup from underneath with a building in the background to make gullible people believe that grasshoppers must be enormous! Yet even the article has to (quietly) admit that, "it appeared to be too small to be used", because it *is* too small. And the article itself has to hedge on former propaganda about it being a "real" threat by moving the goal post to it being a "metaphoric" threat. I thought I would have to make this meme to explain, but someone already has: http://twitter.com/TaylerUSA/status/1508947329113636864 If you *have* perception, you see a gallows which is not even tall enough to function. It is assembled from garbage Home Depot or Lowes lumber (looks like 4" by 4" sections for the frame). Its top piece is not load-bearing, using too-short screws which barely hold the piece on unsupported uprights. This would collapse from a completely still weight, but useful idiots such as murder are to believe that a wriggling person desperate for life could not knock it over in a single moment? Or that it could hold a victim and executioners? And its rope is even less functional! And it was placed about 200 yards from the Capitol Building! And it says, "This is art!" on its side! Art is "a threat to our democracy!" But useful idiots such as murder and tw are convinced that chants to "hang Pence" were imminent and actionable. Propaganda from the show trials — which edited position, audio, and timing — have them believing that Pence himself was only feet away from "violent" protestors! Rushed down the stairs just in time! Meanwhile, this sums up the reality on the ground and how things actually played out: "interviewing January 6th Rioters on the Capitol Steps" [January 12th, 2021] (set to relevant time point) http://youtu.be/9NrDtV9IQPU?si=rbL_cPAGALlZQiR-&t=1035 [Elad]: "If not four more years, how are you going to react?" [Protestor, completely changing tone]: "It'll be alright." [Elad]: "Peaceful?" [Protestor]: "Peaceful. We just want to be heard." You could argue that some were not there for peace, yet they all left the same way. The scaffold was unusable, the chants were theater, and the protestors respected the grounds too much to damage it. Yet the lie of the scaffold is still spread as clumsily as the lie of "[poop on the walls]". But the leftist cannot see past these lies since the leftist knows only his internal state: what *he* would do. What the *leftist* would do is kill the opposition candidate. The leftist would defile sacred halls and carry out an insurrection. He cannot comprehend that his enemies would not.
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Sep 10 01:13:52 "Those few of us who are highly trained and tasked with conducting and/or countering civil wars/revolutions around the world for more than seventy years now, are giving a warning. Not making a threat by any means. Only articulating recognition of a pattern we have participated in and countered in every corner of the world. "Virtually all of the preconditions for civil war/revolution have been met. All that is missing now is a sufficient trigger. A trigger virtually always initiated by the regime in power. "Accelerating up to through trigger event(s), regimes sensing a loss of control always overreact out of arrogance, incompetence, and genuine fear they can not admit. "When this acceleration/escalation begins and is not met with an immediate and powerful sustained counter, the regime accelerates ever more rapidly, expands regime protecting activities and seeks to gain and lock in ever more power and control. "A strong, well-armed, and peaceful resistance is the only answer the people have to prevent civil war. It is very unlikely this will happen here in the US. "The courts could step in at any moment without need for lawsuits and prevent civil war by forcing a return to constitutionality. It is very unlikely this will happen either. "The problem is virtually all the oligarchs, petty and great alike, yet fail to realize at all what is happening, that they no longer are, in fact, the power, the regime they once owned is no longer owned nor controlled by them. "And so, we the people, await the trigger(s)..." [September 9th, 2023] http://twitter.com/EMBurlingame/status/1700651000045162844
Dukhat Member	Mon Sep 11 07:03:36 You know almost everyone ignores your posts right cherub? Ot only are they insane, they are so fucking long like some college dropout who just tried to meet the minimum essay length requirement.
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