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Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 15 17:58:39
Even dick Cheney wasn't this disliked after he shot a man in the face with a shotgun.

28%?

Trump was nevwr even that unpopular.

Biden is about 10 points higher.But still yeesh.Arguably* worse than Trump.

Why has he done nothing to lower gas prices? Fuel costs this winter are not going to help him either.

I remember Trump openly threaten opec and strong arm the Saudis with military support.To lower the cost of gas at the pump and partially out of spite against Russia.

Not to mention the strategic reserves.

Even on covid he is under water.Which had been his saving grace.

They just keep tumbling.

And lets face it, Reoublicans are only offering "Im not a Democrat"

They really don't have a platform.


murder
Member
Mon Nov 15 18:24:50

Maybe it has something to do with the unrelenting stream of negative stories about someone who has no actual powers or duties aside from presiding over the Senate whenever her vote is needed.

The corporate media has been on overdrive trying to undermine this administration with stupid stories about "incompetence" and supposed missteps.

The corporate media has it out for Biden and Harris because Democrats want to raise the taxes of their billionaire and millionaire owners.

kargen
Member
Mon Nov 15 18:27:17
"Her approval rating sank to 27.8 per cent, and her disapproval score was 51.2 per cent"

"Even Dan Quayle, the much-mocked vice-president of George W. Bush, was more popular after he had been in office for seven months with an approval rating of 43 per cent, and disapproval score of just 22 per cent."

Not sure why they went with "per cent" instead of % but there ya go. Worse than Dan Quayle and he said this:
"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."
and this:
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
and this:
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
murder
Member
Mon Nov 15 18:30:16

It's funny, 72% of the population supposedly has decided that they don't like her ... even though she is completely out of the spotlight and is busy doing nothing every day.

jergul
large member
Mon Nov 15 18:34:44
I think the operative word here is "her". Ranked right up there with "they" for genders the a lot of people dont want in the executive branch.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 15 19:03:07
one explanation for low polls: no one runs positive/neutral stories as no one cares about the VP, whereas Fox regularly attacks her (possibly assuming she'll run in 2024)... one compilation of nonsense put together by Daily Show (if they misrepresented something, feel free to note it):

http://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1459310289275346951

can anyone name what Pence did? i know he was appointed head of coronavirus task force but couldn't tell you anything he did... Trump needed the spotlight & did all the talking (to the death of many)
kargen
Member
Mon Nov 15 19:05:40
yeah, that ain't it. The Republicans were perfectly happy with Sara Palin. Several thought Condoleezza Rice should run for President.

Might be she simply isn't relatable. She comes off as disingenuous at every turn. And most the press in the US still gives her a pass.

Also good to remember during the primaries she was the first one out. She could only get about three percent in the polls during the primaries. That wasn't the right speaking there. That was the left. The left picked Hillary (also a woman) to run as president in 2016 so they seem to have no issue with women running.
So whatever VP Harris's numbers are they are likely because of her personality and actions or lack of actions.

When will you go to the border?
I've been there. laugh...

that doesn't fly.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 15 20:00:56
Pence didn't come off as a complete goddamn idiot when he spoke in public.

Harris is an absolute assclown of a politician, she clearly never has any idea what she's talking about and she completely comes across as both fake and unlikable.

Here's just one of many examples...a reporter asks her about inflation, and she responds by giving an utterly incoherent answer:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-bUPtBb470

But of course, in jerguland and murderland, its impossible for a woman to simply be bad at her job; if she's unpopular, it must be because a couple hundred million Americans are actually sexist pigs who can't stand seeing females in any position of power. Yeah, that makes more sense than the alternative, which is that women, like men, are capable of being unlikable people.

Hell, 90% of the negative attention here is on Biden; is that because he's a man, or because he's a senile lying power-hungry asshole?
Dukhat
Member
Mon Nov 15 20:09:10
Noone thinks about Kamala Harris, not even Kamala Harris. The only time she ever comes up is when Rugian and Kargen are masturbating and need some rape-kink fantasy to get their half-flaccid penises to jizz their sterile, waterys eed.
jergul
large member
Mon Nov 15 20:20:59
I am actually pretty sure a couple 100 million americans are sexist pigs (to use your terminlogy).
obaminated
Member
Mon Nov 15 20:43:58
I'd follow in her previous employers footsteps and fuck kamala Harris. Wouldn't stick around after though.
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 15 20:59:03
"
I am actually pretty sure a couple 100 million americans are sexist pigs"

And they were not. 6 months ago?the women too I suppose since with numbers that low it cant be just men.

Is that why the duo are under water on EVERY single topic?
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 15 21:03:36
I'll guess mistreatment in the press is a joke.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 15 21:31:32
my god, she went to high school in Canada!
http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1460420225505980416?s=21
kargen
Member
Mon Nov 15 21:46:07
Once again just for you jergul.

Three percent of Democrats supported her campaign for president.

Nice to see Cukhat back to his insults phase. The nothing but dribble phase was getting tiresome.
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 15 22:03:29
Tw, Honestly I think her polls are tethered to the administration.No VP AFAIK has ever had higher ratings than the potus.

Biden's support had never been strong.He had a lot of support, but no one loved him like they did Obama or Trump who always had a large sect of their parties that were just gung go.

Biden is the new Jimmy Carter. Except there is more of a sense that they are not doing anything.

Top that with Kamala being about as charismatic as Bloomberg.

They also want to racialize *everything*, she was at conference about planting trees and rambled on about how trees and race are correlated.

All while the economy is seriously taking a toll on a lot of people and they don't seem to care aboit that as long as they do some racial virtue signaling and hire a black woman.

The Lt. Governor VA, do you think Republicans care much that she is a black woman? Or do they give more clout to her being an immigrant, Gun rights activist that was a Marine.The latter are the more important things to focus on.

In short the country is going in a bad direction and the people are focusing their energy at the people who promised the return of adults in the room Normalcy and by any measure, people felt better when Trump was in office.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 15 22:20:01
"Honestly I think her polls are tethered to the administration"

i don't doubt that's a part of it, but the Fox assault is real too... i didn't go hunting for Tucker suggesting she's not a real American, that was just tonight & the great Michele Bachmann was on a Fox show attacking her too

she spoke today at the bill signing so i guess some reason to mention her today more than most, but seen plenty of Fox shit about her all year
murder
Member
Tue Nov 16 09:14:39

"Harris is an absolute assclown of a politician, she clearly never has any idea what she's talking about and she completely comes across as both fake and unlikable."

This is hilarious. 98% of Americans couldn't tell you ANYTHING that Kamala has done or where she's been since she became VP. Americans don't even know what the fuck is in the ginormous infrastructure bill that just passed.

All they see is the negative headlines that pass by about what a "disaster" some random thing that they can't remember was.

Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 11:56:55
"This is hilarious. 98% of Americans couldn't tell you ANYTHING that Kamala has done"

Isn't that the point?
murder
Member
Tue Nov 16 12:00:24

No it's not. VPs don't do anything other than attend the funerals of dignitaries that the President doesn't want to bother with.

Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 12:33:17
If anything this administration has had the best media coverage of any recent potus.

Trump and Obama both had far worse coverage.Finally after the vast majority of the US is fed up in general do they get called out.
murder
Member
Tue Nov 16 19:36:58

Is that a joke?

CRISIS ON THE BORDER!!!

DISASTER IN AFGHANISTAN!!!

Neither even remotely a crisis. Biden took more shit for getting our troops out of Afghanistan than the past 3 presidents took for fucking up the war for 20 fucking years.

kargen
Member
Tue Nov 16 21:37:11
Saying the border isn't a crisis reaches almost tumbleweed levels of denial.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 16 21:56:56
speaking of denial... airing tonight, Trump was wearing a tuxedo as he told a pillow salesman that Pence shouldn't have accepted the electoral votes because of still completely unproven mass voter fraud 1 year after the election

(and the cult party wants him to be 'leader' again)
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 17 05:34:43
No potus in all of history had worse media coverage than Trump, by a long margin, like not even in the same realm.

In top of which, Biden has had the opposite, having the freindliest media coverage of any modern potus.

http://www...92e-9454-5dd8a6780791.amp.html

new study shows President Joe Biden has received less negative coverage from U.S. media than any president in the last 30 years.

The study found that about 19% of the coverage of Biden's fir 60 days days has been negative over the first 60 days of his administration, which ranked best among presidents of the last three decades. Former Presidents Bill Clinton (28%), George W. Bush (28%), Barack Obama (20%), and Donald Trump (62%) all saw more negative coverage than Biden.

murder
Member
Wed Nov 17 07:40:30

"Saying the border isn't a crisis reaches almost tumbleweed levels of denial."

It isn't a crisis. In fact no one would even notice the influx of migrants if we weren't stopping them from entering. Migrants are only a "crisis" when white people start handwringing that at some point in the future they will no longer be the majority.

The rest of the time it's just the way the free labor market works.

But Republicans don't feel the need to pick a side. They want white nationalism AND cheap labor.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 17 11:56:05
"No potus in all of history had worse media coverage than Trump, by a long margin, like not even in the same realm."

incredibly well deserved

---------------

"Donald Trump (62%)"

only 62%?

a totally unfit lying-daily fraud piece of shit doesn't deserve 50% positive coverage to demonstrate a fair media
kargen
Member
Thu Nov 18 04:50:29
If it were only migrants coming over then I agree probably not crisis proportions. But we throw in our current pandemic, abysmal conditions unable to cope with the sheer number, people dying along the way from exposure to elements, women saying they were sexually assaulted and/or raped, cartels forcing some to be mules, sex trafficing and small children being abandoned in the desert and that reaches crisis.

We could easily absorb them for a time. That isn't the problem. The problem is the conditions while they wait to be processed. The process itself is a problem. A more streamlined way to enter the country legally should have happened decades ago. I would say during the Reagan years. It is a fucked up mess from the time they start the march North to the time they are either detained and sent back or eventually allowed to enter.

It is a crisis and you are a fool if you think otherwise.
habebe
Member
Tue Aug 02 21:40:46
charged up an old phone, found this gem.
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