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murder
Member Sun Nov 14 09:58:56
U.S. hid an airstrike that killed dozens of Syrians in 2019.

The Baghuz strike, which killed about 70 civilians, was never publicly acknowledged by the U.S., and there was no inquiry into the attack. An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened.

http://twitter.com/i/events/1459554138350657544

murder
Member Sun Nov 14 10:00:11

I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump.

Rugian
Member Sun Nov 14 10:05:49
The issue wasn't that Biden drone striked a bunch of people (that happens all the time and rarely makes the news at all), it's that he drone striked a family in order to look like he was "doing" something after botch in the Kabul withdrawal.

Do try to keep up.

jergul
large member Sun Nov 14 10:09:57
*Doing something* is the main justification for all air strikes. Rarely does the decision involve presidents.

Habebe
Member Sun Nov 14 10:48:33
Yeah, we're better off just selling more arms to the Saudis and friends and keeping our military out of the ME in any substantial way.

Forwyn
Member Sun Nov 14 11:17:47
"I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump."

A primary defense of the withdrawal fiasco in Afghanistan was, "Who got us there in the first place?"

Sam Adams
Member Sun Nov 14 13:16:56
"An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened."

Lol

kargen
Member Sun Nov 14 14:34:28
Coalition drones had scoured the camp 24 hours a day for weeks and knew nearly every inch, officers said, including the daily movements of groups of women and children who gathered to eat, pray and sleep near a steep river bank that provided cover.

What happened on the morning of March 18 is in dispute.

That day Islamic State fighters trapped in the camp launched a predawn counteroffensive, according to Central Command, which oversaw Task Force 9. It said hundreds of Islamic State fighters started firing rifles and grenade launchers and sending forward fighters with suicide vests. The coalition pummeled the fighters with airstrikes — so many that by midmorning the coalition had used all the missiles on its drones. Only one American drone, controlled by the task force, was left in the area, and it was unarmed.

At about 10 a.m., local Syrian forces reported they were under fire and in danger of being overrun, and called for an airstrike, Central Command said. The task force drone tracked a group of fighters as they made their way through the camp to the area where the women and children sheltered.

A 5th Special Forces Group officer in the task force looked at the drone footage and didn’t see any civilians, a task force officer said. But the drone he relied on had only a standard-definition camera. Central Command said there were no high-definition drones in the area that could get a better view of the target.

The Special Forces officer gave the order to fire. With no precision missiles left, the command said, the ground commander called in 500- and 2,000-pound bombs. The strike log classified the strike as self-defense.

In fact, a high-definition drone was available. The task force did not use it. Circling above, it was streaming footage of the same patch of ground to the operations center in Qatar. Because the task force operated at a high level of secrecy, two officers said, the people in Qatar watching the high-definition drone were not aware the task force was about to call in a strike.

Central Command said the task force did not know that the better drone was overhead.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sun Nov 14 15:13:14
Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept

murder
Member Sun Nov 14 20:18:56

"Lol"

I know it's not OAN but ...

murder
Member Sun Nov 14 20:51:20

"Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept"

He did. :o)

Habebe
Member Mon Nov 15 00:07:08
That may be the nicest thing TW has ever said about Trump.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Mon Nov 15 00:47:19
well, it's still a war crime... i believe he advocated for 3 types of war crimes as a candidate... wanting to use torture was another (w/ the adults around him claiming 'oh, he doesn't really mean torture', even though he specifically said 'torture' & 'way worse than waterboarding', so definitely meant torture)

can't recall the 3rd at the moment

(& he pardoned war criminals... Trump ♥ war crimes... & undermining America)

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murder Member	Sun Nov 14 09:58:56 U.S. hid an airstrike that killed dozens of Syrians in 2019. The Baghuz strike, which killed about 70 civilians, was never publicly acknowledged by the U.S., and there was no inquiry into the attack. An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened. http://twitter.com/i/events/1459554138350657544
murder Member	Sun Nov 14 10:00:11 I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump.
Rugian Member	Sun Nov 14 10:05:49 The issue wasn't that Biden drone striked a bunch of people (that happens all the time and rarely makes the news at all), it's that he drone striked a family in order to look like he was "doing" something after botch in the Kabul withdrawal. Do try to keep up.
jergul large member	Sun Nov 14 10:09:57 Doing something is the main justification for all air strikes. Rarely does the decision involve presidents.
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 14 10:48:33 Yeah, we're better off just selling more arms to the Saudis and friends and keeping our military out of the ME in any substantial way.
Forwyn Member	Sun Nov 14 11:17:47 "I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump." A primary defense of the withdrawal fiasco in Afghanistan was, "Who got us there in the first place?"
Sam Adams Member	Sun Nov 14 13:16:56 "An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened." Lol
kargen Member	Sun Nov 14 14:34:28 Coalition drones had scoured the camp 24 hours a day for weeks and knew nearly every inch, officers said, including the daily movements of groups of women and children who gathered to eat, pray and sleep near a steep river bank that provided cover. What happened on the morning of March 18 is in dispute. That day Islamic State fighters trapped in the camp launched a predawn counteroffensive, according to Central Command, which oversaw Task Force 9. It said hundreds of Islamic State fighters started firing rifles and grenade launchers and sending forward fighters with suicide vests. The coalition pummeled the fighters with airstrikes — so many that by midmorning the coalition had used all the missiles on its drones. Only one American drone, controlled by the task force, was left in the area, and it was unarmed. At about 10 a.m., local Syrian forces reported they were under fire and in danger of being overrun, and called for an airstrike, Central Command said. The task force drone tracked a group of fighters as they made their way through the camp to the area where the women and children sheltered. A 5th Special Forces Group officer in the task force looked at the drone footage and didn’t see any civilians, a task force officer said. But the drone he relied on had only a standard-definition camera. Central Command said there were no high-definition drones in the area that could get a better view of the target. The Special Forces officer gave the order to fire. With no precision missiles left, the command said, the ground commander called in 500- and 2,000-pound bombs. The strike log classified the strike as self-defense. In fact, a high-definition drone was available. The task force did not use it. Circling above, it was streaming footage of the same patch of ground to the operations center in Qatar. Because the task force operated at a high level of secrecy, two officers said, the people in Qatar watching the high-definition drone were not aware the task force was about to call in a strike. Central Command said the task force did not know that the better drone was overhead.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 14 15:13:14 Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept
murder Member	Sun Nov 14 20:18:56 "Lol" I know it's not OAN but ...
murder Member	Sun Nov 14 20:51:20 "Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept" He did. :o)
Habebe Member	Mon Nov 15 00:07:08 That may be the nicest thing TW has ever said about Trump.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 15 00:47:19 well, it's still a war crime... i believe he advocated for 3 types of war crimes as a candidate... wanting to use torture was another (w/ the adults around him claiming 'oh, he doesn't really mean torture', even though he specifically said 'torture' & 'way worse than waterboarding', so definitely meant torture) can't recall the 3rd at the moment (& he pardoned war criminals... Trump ♥ war crimes... & undermining America)
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