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murder
rank Sun Nov 14 17:58:56 2021
U.S. hid an airstrike that killed dozens of Syrians in 2019.

The Baghuz strike, which killed about 70 civilians, was never publicly acknowledged by the U.S., and there was no inquiry into the attack. An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened.

http://twitter.com/i/events/1459554138350657544

murder
rank Sun Nov 14 18:00:11 2021

I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump.

Rugian
rank Sun Nov 14 18:05:49 2021
The issue wasn't that Biden drone striked a bunch of people (that happens all the time and rarely makes the news at all), it's that he drone striked a family in order to look like he was "doing" something after botch in the Kabul withdrawal.

Do try to keep up.

jergul
rank Sun Nov 14 18:09:57 2021
*Doing something* is the main justification for all air strikes. Rarely does the decision involve presidents.

Habebe
rank Sun Nov 14 18:48:33 2021
Yeah, we're better off just selling more arms to the Saudis and friends and keeping our military out of the ME in any substantial way.

Forwyn
rank Sun Nov 14 19:17:47 2021
"I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump."

A primary defense of the withdrawal fiasco in Afghanistan was, "Who got us there in the first place?"

Sam Adams
rank Sun Nov 14 21:16:56 2021
"An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened."

Lol

kargen
rank Sun Nov 14 22:34:28 2021
Coalition drones had scoured the camp 24 hours a day for weeks and knew nearly every inch, officers said, including the daily movements of groups of women and children who gathered to eat, pray and sleep near a steep river bank that provided cover.

What happened on the morning of March 18 is in dispute.

That day Islamic State fighters trapped in the camp launched a predawn counteroffensive, according to Central Command, which oversaw Task Force 9. It said hundreds of Islamic State fighters started firing rifles and grenade launchers and sending forward fighters with suicide vests. The coalition pummeled the fighters with airstrikes — so many that by midmorning the coalition had used all the missiles on its drones. Only one American drone, controlled by the task force, was left in the area, and it was unarmed.

At about 10 a.m., local Syrian forces reported they were under fire and in danger of being overrun, and called for an airstrike, Central Command said. The task force drone tracked a group of fighters as they made their way through the camp to the area where the women and children sheltered.

A 5th Special Forces Group officer in the task force looked at the drone footage and didn’t see any civilians, a task force officer said. But the drone he relied on had only a standard-definition camera. Central Command said there were no high-definition drones in the area that could get a better view of the target.

The Special Forces officer gave the order to fire. With no precision missiles left, the command said, the ground commander called in 500- and 2,000-pound bombs. The strike log classified the strike as self-defense.

In fact, a high-definition drone was available. The task force did not use it. Circling above, it was streaming footage of the same patch of ground to the operations center in Qatar. Because the task force operated at a high level of secrecy, two officers said, the people in Qatar watching the high-definition drone were not aware the task force was about to call in a strike.

Central Command said the task force did not know that the better drone was overhead.

tumbleweed
rank Sun Nov 14 23:13:14 2021
Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept

murder
rank Mon Nov 15 04:18:56 2021

"Lol"

I know it's not OAN but ...

murder
rank Mon Nov 15 04:51:20 2021

"Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept"

He did. :o)

Habebe
rank Mon Nov 15 08:07:08 2021
That may be the nicest thing TW has ever said about Trump.

tumbleweed
rank Mon Nov 15 08:47:19 2021
well, it's still a war crime... i believe he advocated for 3 types of war crimes as a candidate... wanting to use torture was another (w/ the adults around him claiming 'oh, he doesn't really mean torture', even though he specifically said 'torture' & 'way worse than waterboarding', so definitely meant torture)

can't recall the 3rd at the moment

(& he pardoned war criminals... Trump ♥ war crimes... & undermining America)

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murder rank	Sun Nov 14 17:58:56 2021 U.S. hid an airstrike that killed dozens of Syrians in 2019. The Baghuz strike, which killed about 70 civilians, was never publicly acknowledged by the U.S., and there was no inquiry into the attack. An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened. http://twitter.com/i/events/1459554138350657544
murder rank	Sun Nov 14 18:00:11 2021 I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump.
Rugian rank	Sun Nov 14 18:05:49 2021 The issue wasn't that Biden drone striked a bunch of people (that happens all the time and rarely makes the news at all), it's that he drone striked a family in order to look like he was "doing" something after botch in the Kabul withdrawal. Do try to keep up.
jergul rank	Sun Nov 14 18:09:57 2021 Doing something is the main justification for all air strikes. Rarely does the decision involve presidents.
Habebe rank	Sun Nov 14 18:48:33 2021 Yeah, we're better off just selling more arms to the Saudis and friends and keeping our military out of the ME in any substantial way.
Forwyn rank	Sun Nov 14 19:17:47 2021 "I'm sure that everyone that feigned outrage at Joe Biden personally murdering an Afghan family will be along shortly to condemn Donald Trump." A primary defense of the withdrawal fiasco in Afghanistan was, "Who got us there in the first place?"
Sam Adams rank	Sun Nov 14 21:16:56 2021 "An investigation by The New York Times pieced together what happened." Lol
kargen rank	Sun Nov 14 22:34:28 2021 Coalition drones had scoured the camp 24 hours a day for weeks and knew nearly every inch, officers said, including the daily movements of groups of women and children who gathered to eat, pray and sleep near a steep river bank that provided cover. What happened on the morning of March 18 is in dispute. That day Islamic State fighters trapped in the camp launched a predawn counteroffensive, according to Central Command, which oversaw Task Force 9. It said hundreds of Islamic State fighters started firing rifles and grenade launchers and sending forward fighters with suicide vests. The coalition pummeled the fighters with airstrikes — so many that by midmorning the coalition had used all the missiles on its drones. Only one American drone, controlled by the task force, was left in the area, and it was unarmed. At about 10 a.m., local Syrian forces reported they were under fire and in danger of being overrun, and called for an airstrike, Central Command said. The task force drone tracked a group of fighters as they made their way through the camp to the area where the women and children sheltered. A 5th Special Forces Group officer in the task force looked at the drone footage and didn’t see any civilians, a task force officer said. But the drone he relied on had only a standard-definition camera. Central Command said there were no high-definition drones in the area that could get a better view of the target. The Special Forces officer gave the order to fire. With no precision missiles left, the command said, the ground commander called in 500- and 2,000-pound bombs. The strike log classified the strike as self-defense. In fact, a high-definition drone was available. The task force did not use it. Circling above, it was streaming footage of the same patch of ground to the operations center in Qatar. Because the task force operated at a high level of secrecy, two officers said, the people in Qatar watching the high-definition drone were not aware the task force was about to call in a strike. Central Command said the task force did not know that the better drone was overhead.
tumbleweed rank	Sun Nov 14 23:13:14 2021 Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept
murder rank	Mon Nov 15 04:18:56 2021 "Lol" I know it's not OAN but ...
murder rank	Mon Nov 15 04:51:20 2021 "Trump did say he would kill their families... promises made, promises kept" He did. :o)
Habebe rank	Mon Nov 15 08:07:08 2021 That may be the nicest thing TW has ever said about Trump.
tumbleweed rank	Mon Nov 15 08:47:19 2021 well, it's still a war crime... i believe he advocated for 3 types of war crimes as a candidate... wanting to use torture was another (w/ the adults around him claiming 'oh, he doesn't really mean torture', even though he specifically said 'torture' & 'way worse than waterboarding', so definitely meant torture) can't recall the 3rd at the moment (& he pardoned war criminals... Trump ♥ war crimes... & undermining America)
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