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Habebe Member	Fri Nov 12 21:54:08 Can we place this in the column of a hoax yet? Its kind of crazy that yet again Donald Trump comes off as the most honest and accurate actor in the whole thing calling it a left wing conspiracy hoax pushed by HRC and Schiff. The steel Dossier has now been proven to be made up with ties to its production by the HRC campaign. She literally conspired with Russians to changenthe outcome of the election.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 12 22:10:57 Can we get a list of the fake news stories now proven false around Russia gate? Remember the russian bounties?not true. What else?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 12 22:31:16 the dossier not revealed til after the election the dossier not the origin of the Russia investigation (despite Fox trying really really hard to make it seem so) the dossier not relied upon by Mueller at all (& the russian bounties story not a hoax, nor proven one way or the other)
Habebe Member	Sat Nov 13 02:36:49 " (& the russian bounties story not a hoax, nor proven one way or the other" It was based on info statement(s) from Taliban fighter(s) with nothing wore than their wors to back it up. We have been over this one 1k times.It was portrayed as real and then it turns out the ONLY evidence is an uncorroborated Taliban fighter, after the election our Intel even said they dont think it actually happened. Steele dossier was a fabricated smear against Trump with ties to the Clinton campaign. Objectively , that's pretty damaging.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 14 00:57:26 the original story from NYT (i think) said intel agencies were investigating reports of russian bounties (completely true story) Trump's -initial- response was to suspect it was a hoax by NYT (or whatever outlet)... which is totally fucked up... it had nothing to do w/ him so even w/ his self-absorbed child-mind there was no reason to attack it, it was just his reflexive Russia defense + smearing media based on nothing intel gave it low to moderate (or whatever) confidence rating... fine, still proves original story true & Trump's response to it a worthy addition to the mountain of evidence showing Trump's unfitness... but yeah, if any media claimed it definitely happened, they were wrong to do so ---- as for Russia-gate: Manafort deserved to be investigated, so did Papadopolous... Flynn should continue to be investigated... i don't recall what Carter Page was doing, but who cares as no one possibly would go after him to corruptly get at Trump... those were the 4 people the FBI was looking at under Comey (it was never about Trump until he fired Comey, it was about the Trump -campaign- & justifiably... Trump made it about himself) every report has found the investigation warranted
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 14 00:58:12 ^the "(i think)" refers to what outlet, not the content of the true story
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