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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Nov 07 17:36:28
the official continuation of shit about Shit and Shit-related accessories

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apparently that gathering of Q cultists awaiting JFK and/or JFK's Jr's return(s) went for multiple days (maybe still going on)...

here they were lining up in a long Q queue to speak with a man w/ a bird on his shoulder...
http://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1457071491825258504
apparently he had to individually point something out to each, one person claiming it was:

"After listening to the their stream they were lining up to turn around and look at the top of the book depository, apparently they could see the top of a Illuminati pyramid which represented the evil looking down on their minions"
murder
Member
Sun Nov 07 19:39:45

No one should be surprised. People have been waiting for Jesus 2.0 for 2 millennia.



Paramount
Member
Mon Nov 08 01:12:12
I thought Obama was Jesus at one time.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 08 12:00:15
"President Trump laid the groundwork for this infrastructure to pass... I'm happy and appreciative to President Trump for being one of the first to talk about the need for infrastructure"
~ one of the few R's who voted for it... running back to the leg of master before he squashes her

http://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1457713578874740736

& really pretending a totally bipartisan effort
murder
Member
Mon Nov 08 12:55:30

"... being one of the first to talk about the need for infrastructure"

One of the first? Trump invented infrastructure!

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 08 18:57:42
Trump's enthusiastic support for the infrastructure bill that he's apparently responsible for:

"
Very sad that the RINOs in the House and Senate gave Biden and Democrats a victory on the “Non-Infrastructure” Bill, where only 11% of the money being wasted goes to real infrastructure. How about all of those Republican Senators that voted thinking that helping the Democrats is such a wonderful thing to do, so politically correct. They just don’t get it! Now they’ll go for the big kill—getting their second $1.9 Trillion Bill (really $5 Trillion) approved, again with RINO support. All Republicans who voted for Democrat longevity should be ashamed of themselves, in particular Mitch McConnell, for granting a two month stay which allowed the Democrats time to work things out at our Country’s, and the Republican Party’s, expense!
"


the 11% claim is nonsense obviously, the odds of him having a clue what is in the bill is zero


an infographic on bill:
http://gra...GIBSCBDYI5DQFMRFKO5ASB7H54.JPG

New York Times also has a good pie-chartish graphic of all the expanded things Dems wanted that were zeroed out (a long time ago)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 08 22:06:23
so, Rep Paul Gosar has this video on his gov't-oriented account:

http://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1457493879003963398

the all weird shit includes his, Marjorie T Greene & Lauren Boebert's faces on characters and his character stabbing a character w/ AOC's face...
(maybe Gohmert in there too... he's part of their idiot squad)

normal stuff
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 12:42:58
Laura Ingraham supports destroying all the R's in the House who voted for the infrastructure bill (though not sure she's willing to take on the Senators as Mitch was one of them):

http://pbs...VkAQs278?format=jpg&name=large

Trump over party
party over country
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 12:51:00
"
...
The Arizona Legislature (and other States!) should, at a minimum, decertify the Election.
"
~ seditionist

http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-bxjxpyxpgu0
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 09 13:36:57
The infrastructure bill? Nah.

Salt taxes? Hang em high.

Now as I understand they were different bills.

Didnthe spending bill pass?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 14:36:36
no, the other bill (w/ SALT issue) hasn't passed & won't pass in current form, & there's no reason to expect any Rs to vote for it

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“Fucking traitor. That’s what you are. You’re a fucking piece of shit traitor. I hope you die. I hope everybody in your fucking family dies. You fucking piece of shit trash motherfucker. Voted for dumbass fucking Biden? You’re stupider than he is. He can’t even complete a fucking sentence, you dumb motherfucker, traitor, piece of shit motherfucker, piece of trash. I hope you die, I hope your fucking family dies. I hope everybody in your fucking staff dies, you fucking piece of fucking shit. Traitor!”
~ death threat phone call to one of the R's who voted for infrastructure

i'm guessing the cultist criminal's information sources are questionable
Rugian
Member
Tue Nov 09 19:01:13
So not only did Twitter censor the Gosar tweet (ridiculously calling it "hate speech" as justification), but now Nancy Pelosi has called for ethics AND criminal investigations to be launched against Gosar for it.

All this over a fucking anime parody.

When did the left completely lose their sense of humor? They had the same autistic meltdown when Trump posted that WWE video of him tackling CNN, acting like as if he was actually encouraging violence against a corporate logo.

No, morons. It was a FUCKING PARODY!

Maybe Gosar should have dressed up as a clown and lectured his audience on how he had an abortion when he was 23...that's the only type of "comedy" the left still seems to enjoy these days.
Rugian
Member
Tue Nov 09 19:05:44
You like Bill Maher right?

This segment from 6:33 to 7:22 was directed right at you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ1mGVu5584&t=393s
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 21:15:50
it was not intended to be humor... it’s an anti-immigration video (which is his main issue, he wanted a 10-year pause to all immigration from anywhere), what other sections are humorous?... and he hates AOC (as does Marge), hard to call it just a good-natured murder video of a hated foe... put up cartoons of you murdering your foes at work and see if you don’t get a call from HR
Rugian
Member
Tue Nov 09 21:28:35
You're right, the anime of a Japanese Paul Gosar flying around in the air and striking a blow at an 80-foot tall AOC was actually a call to real-world violence. That's far more likely than the alternate explanation of someone just making a funny video parody of how he owns the libs.

...and now that I think back on it, you really did argue at the time that the Trump bodyslamming CNN meme was hate speech as well.

Politics has broken you.
Rugian
Member
Tue Nov 09 21:33:22
Trump has driven the entire left insane. Your hatred of him is so utterly consuming that you've let it corrupt your values and turn you into the illiberal authoritarian that you accuse him of being.

http://cdn...fac-c54b0cbb5e65_1364x1418.png
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 21:36:02
he's a fucking moron who happily associates with Marjorie Greene, Lauren Boebert, Louie Gohmert & Matt Gaetz... how has he owned libs?

i didn't say it was a call for violence, just massively inappropriate & stupid... i'm sure she gets death threats from the cult regularly already, so doubt this would add to it

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"you really did argue at the time that the Trump bodyslamming CNN meme was hate speech as well"

i seriously doubt that i called it hate speech... i wouldn't be surprised if i found it ridiculously childish & unprofessional though...

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semi-related:

"I was well familiar with what a narcissistic, ridiculous, tacky, vulgar, arriviste this guy was. That I knew about. The one thing I underestimated, in fact, did not see at all is, I had no idea how abjectly stupid the man is."
~ Ann Coulter on Trump

i've always had an idea how abjectly stupid he is... it's demonstrated often
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 21:40:14
as for your graph...

given the completely obvious fraud & liar spewed (& does his best to still spew) total bullshit info that for some reason a large portion of the country just believes no matter how ridiculous, i can see why people concerned about misinformation (& how it's being believed)

& of course Fox News seems worse than ever to deal w/ competitors Newsmax & OANN... bullshit draws eyeballs better than boring reality

w/ multiple former colleagues of Tucker finding him unrecognizable
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 09 22:57:59
Does someone have a link to this anime video?

From what I gather it does seem to be in poor taste. But I havnt seen it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 23:24:10
this was it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9HqlYTUNJw

comedy start to finish
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 09 23:38:57
this was Gosar doing more comedy:

http://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1441457393829916678

^he says people came to him from alleged federal fraud departments and told him that hundreds of thousands of ballots altered in AZ

weird they only told him & never have mentioned it again
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 10 00:34:34
Republicans doing comedy is often like Germans doing comedy.

Reagan and Trump were exceptions.
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 10 00:49:01
1. It really isn't as gruesome I thought.I couldn't hardly tell it was AOC and I dont think he killed the monster, TBH it was really confusing.

2.Its an incoherent piece of shit of an ad. I wouldn't have paid money for that, or for free.

He should be punished just such an assault on the senses.


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 10 01:26:08
"
The Unselect Committee of politically ambitious hacks continues to subpoena people wanting to know about those protesting, on January 6th, the insurrection which took place during the Presidential Election of November 3rd. There is so much proof, but the Fake News Media refuses to print it or show it in any way, shape, or form. Just read the findings of the Arizona report, or look at what’s happening in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and numerous other States. That’s right, the Committee is studying the PROTEST when it should be studying the Fraudulent Election that led to the protest. As the LameStream Media knows, the facts are there for all to see!
"
~ completely unfit former 'president' of the United States
(& he called the election a sham & "Crime of the Century" again based on "tremendous findings" in a different post.... "so much proof"!)


note how "protest" is in all caps... cause that's all it was apparently

a so-called 'president' who is a-ok w/ cops attacked & overrun as the Capitol invaded & trashed by a violent mob

he's as tough on those criminals as he was on Russia
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 10 02:16:06
Back to the video, as horrible as it is, the idea is basically like burning someone in effigy.

Should it be banned? No.

Is it poor taste? Yes.

Was it wierd, cringy and horribly confusing? Yeah.

This should be frowned upon.It does somehow seem worse than an effigy, mabey just poor quality.

Is it wierd that I'm more offended as a fan of film?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 10 03:05:27
I don’t know that it was banned, Twitter just had some notice on it originally... he may have deleted it himself after sufficient pressure
murder
Member
Wed Nov 10 05:42:31

I'm old enough to remember MAGA losing their shit and cancelling Kathy Griffin for beheading ... Alec Baldwin?

http://www...1/NINTCHDBPICT000618394886.jpg

Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 10 06:04:03
Murder, Yeah it crossed my mind.

That said its hard to cancel someone who no one ever liked to begin with.

The world had Kathy, we have Dukhat.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 10 17:03:02
"
As Governor, I will instruct the State Troopers to make certain that Federal OSHA Officials are greeted with handcuffs at Sky Harbor

President Trump endorsed me because he knows I will not tolerate Arizonans liberties being trampled

Consider this a warning, @JoeBiden
"
~ Kari Lake... Trump's pick for AZ governor
http://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1458261460841209862

OSHA goons aren't going to be charging at people w/ needles... the penalty is a fine on the company, arresting them at the airport would be lunacy

EVERYONE who touts their connection to Trump is a FUCKING IDIOT

notice it

(& for the record, i don't support the mandate, it will just rile up the '1776' cult & the fraudosphere into further divisiveness)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 10 23:46:20
heaps of bullshit in this one...

"
Why is it that Old Crow Mitch McConnell voted for a terrible Democrat Socialist Infrastructure Plan, and induced others in his Party to do likewise, when he was incapable of getting a great Infrastructure Plan wanting to be put forward by me and the Republican Party? He continuously said he couldn’t get it passed, just like I had to go around him to get the very popular Southern Border Wall built (which caused great delay—but could now be completed in one month by Biden). All of the Infrastructure money, $2 Trillion, would have gone into real Infrastructure (roads, bridges, tunnels, airports, etc). Also, why did Mitch give the Democrats a two-month hiatus, just long enough for them to figure it all out, when they were completely ready to fold?
"
~ it's always obvious who wrote it

the border wall was all set to go, just 1 month from completion?... took his whole presidency to do the replacement fencing, but nearly all the new miles were 1 month from being started to completed...

also he admits he wanted $2 trillion on infrastructure, kinda torpedoing the R's spending complaints

i hope Mitch regrets failing to impeach the insanely unfit & lawless 'president'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 11 11:45:15
"...If we had a Free and Fair media, instead of a corrupt media, those election results would never have been allowed to happen. The proof of irregularities and fraud is massive!"
~ the traitor
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 11 11:47:06
"
The great people of Serbia and Kosovo have overcome tremendous obstacles in their pursuit of economic normalization. The agreements my administration brokered are historic and should not be abandoned, many lives are at stake. The region is too important and the people have waited too long for this work to be cast aside. Today, my Envoy Ambassador Ric Grenell visited the Kosovo-Serbia border to highlight this important agreement...
"
~ the mentally deranged guy sitting at his fake resolute desk is still sending out envoy ambassadors (who are assholes)...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 12 13:20:52
"I hate to lose. But I'm also someone who believes strongly in our republic and our democratic processes. Enough votes have been counted. There does not appear to be a path to victory or the basis for a recount, nor do we know of any systemic or widespread fraud. So no, I see no proof this election was stolen."
~ from Jack Ciattarelli's concession speech in NJ governor race (or what a mentally fit Trump in a different Jergul universe might have said... but completely unimaginable that our piece of shit version would ever say)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Nov 14 12:31:06
'New documents show Trump Admin silenced CDC at start of pandemic, tried to alter expert scientific reports, and then tried to delete evidence they were doing so.'

<see various articles reporting on it if you care, CNN, Politico>

not the least bit surprising as his public response was fucked up start to finish, why wouldn't the behind the scenes part be as well
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Nov 14 16:24:01
so another plan to overthrow democracy has come to light, this one a memo from Jenna Ellis (one of the members of Trump's crack Four Seasons legal team) which was sent to Pence:

"
...
Ellis, in the memo, outlined a multi-step strategy: On Jan. 6, the day Congress was to certify the 2020 election results, Pence was to send back the electoral votes from six battleground states that Trump falsely claimed he had won.

The memo said that Pence would give the states a deadline of "7pm eastern standard time on January 15th" to send back a new set of votes, according to Karl.

Then, Ellis wrote, if any state legislature missed that deadline, "no electoral votes can be opened and counted from that state."

Such a scenario would leave neither Biden nor Trump with a majority of votes, Ellis wrote, which would mean "Congress shall vote by state delegation" -- which, Ellis said, would in turn lead to Trump being declared the winner due to Republicans controlling the majority of state delegations with 26.

The day after Meadows sent Ellis' memo to Pence's aide, on Jan. 1, Trump aide John McEntee sent another memo to Pence's chief of staff, Marc Short, titled, "Jefferson used his position as VP to win."

Although McEntee's memo was historically incorrect, Karl says, his message was clear: Jefferson took advantage of his position, and Pence must do the same.
...
"
http://abc...lection-book/story?id=81134003

has some similarity to the Eastman plot to destroy democracy

& of course, Trump to this day still attacking Pence for not just rejecting votes for the heck of it


it's almost getting to the point of having to have respect for Pence after learning of all this tremendous hidden pressure that was going on

-if- Pence had gone through w/ the nonsense, hard to say what would've happened... one might assume it would've failed at some point... in courts perhaps... but who knows what would've been unleashed in the chaos... i'm certain there are paths that would've led to that 1 vote per state outcome that Trump had been talking about using since before election ever happened
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 15 12:06:29
i wish Trump's intern would take the 5 minutes to post the morons statements... seen at least 3 crazy ones come across twitter the past few days

anyway, here's one in image form while waiting...
http://pbs...X0AEpcjd?format=png&name=large

^him wanting to make it clear it was entirely his decision not to attend Biden's inauguration (like anyone gives a shit) & claiming McConnell is working w/ China as his wife's Chinese...

...i wonder why Trump put that wife in his administration
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 15 12:36:23
Trumps attack on the infrastucture reps is not good.Frustratingly annoying.

I still like Mitch.

Didn't the left accuse him of being "Moscow Mitch"? Why is the Chinese claim any worse?
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 15 12:57:33
Why *should* he care for the infrastructure?

Aside from the fact that its filled with fluff and aside from the fact that it's about to be joined by a much larger spending boondoggle...Congress (including Republicans) never gave Trump anything on infrastructure. Then Biden and the most far-left government in modern US history comes in, and all of a sudden the GOP is willing to give Mr. Senility a political win on the subject? F that.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 15 13:03:00
And yes, "Moscow Mitch" was quite in vogue for a few year there.

I'm sure tw will be able to enlighten us on why that was "acceptable political discourse" but Trump's China accusation is an unprecedented and unacceptable shattering of norms.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 15 13:40:53
one of the other yet to be posted statements was Trump seeking "smart" people to primary those who voted for the infrastructure (plus Fox News is going hard after them... but only the House ones for some reason)... i'm sure "smart" means them saying "i will do whatever you say, master" as he hates actually smart people as they make him look stupid

the infrastructure bill is not filled w/ fluff, it was massively trimmed down to normal stuff by Senate... did the Trump admin ever even present an infrastructure plan? he tossed out $2 trillion to sound big, but i don't recall any details

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"Moscow Mitch" origin appears to be Joe Scarborough "for blocking two measures aimed at preventing foreign interference in U.S. elections a day after former special counsel Robert Mueller appeared before two House committees and reiterated how his 448-page report found the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election", so about his actual actions

Trump is claiming Mitch is working for China because his wife is Chinese (as he's done before)... a made-up smear, not based on any policy. Also, Trump had that wife in his admin the entire time, so why now suspecting she's a Chinese agent manipulating her husband?

such a transparent piece of shit fraud
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 15 15:51:01
the intern must be reading this thread as the Trump statements posted now:

"
Any interest from good and SMART America First Republican Patriots to run primary campaigns against Representatives Tom Rice, John Katko, Don Bacon, Don Young, Fred Upton (challenge accepted), Andrew Garbarino, Peter Meijer (challenge accepted), David McKinley (challenge accepted), Nancy Mace, Jaime Herrera Beutler (challenge accepted) and Chris Smith? You will have my backing! Gonzalez, Kinzinger, and Reed already QUIT, they are out of politics, hopefully for good. Warmonger Liz Cheney (challenge accepted) is on the SKIDS with a 19% approval rating. Saving America starts by saving the GOP from RINOs, sellouts, and known losers! In the Senate, the “Disaster from Alaska,” Lisa Murkowski (challenge accepted), must go. There is “almost” nobody worse!
"
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-9pgqspsxvj0

their crimes are either voting impeaching, and/or for infrastructure bill, and/or voting to hold Bannon in contempt

a 'big tent' party welcoming differing views as long as 100% loyal to Trump... (so that's a cult)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 15 15:59:03
"This Country has perhaps never done to anyone what they have done to Steve Bannon and they are looking to do it to others, also..."
~ the drama queen moron

yeah... Bannon has really suffered... charged w/ defrauding cultists over border wall (to which he accepted a pardon from the lawless 'prez' so admission of guilt)

and now asked to speak to congress about criminal activity he appears to have knowledge of... how horrible

("Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. ... Steve doesn’t represent my base — he’s only in it for himself." ~ Trump 2018)
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 15 16:02:15
Rugian, Trump ran on infr. But he didnt really push the issue.

It was one of his biggest faults IMHO.
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 06:29:01
Liz Cheney is no longer recognized as a Republican by the Wyoming GOP.

Haha
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 16 11:55:37
^another demonstration that Trump isn't gone (for those saying to stop talking about him)

her single offense was going against the tyrant king... her moving now from leadership to exile
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 16 12:09:48
some clips of Tuckers incredibly reckless & irresponsible special on Jan 6th in this thread:

http://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1455629665515749383

his special is called "Patriot Purge"... meaning those poor criminals being arrested for invading the Capitol are patriots being purged by the evil gov't

he flat out declares it a "set up" in 2nd clip (just like he flat out claimed gov't docs showed FBI was leading it when no docs showed that at all & his lead example 'FBI agent' disproven immediately)... i wonder if he shows the violence at all


but i'm sure Fox will still keep him on the air of course, despite his constant dangerous poison...
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 13:56:06
Tw, Honestly you hurt your case IMHO when you throw in people like Tucker and let Don Lemon and Maddow off.

Now I get it, you dont watch them much.But they together are on par with Tucker.

They are all entertainers first.They lack integrity and are pure hacks.

They both have an audience of mostly older people 55+. They are not directly very influential.

At best they have a trickle down idea sort of influence.
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 14:00:10
Tw, I do think Jan. 6th FBI/feds connections need to be investigated.

If they're setting up a commssion. Are. There any republicans left in that commission?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 16 15:31:04
Lemon and Maddow have no bearing on a 'news' channel having that total shitbag spewing lying poison nightly... he's telling his viewers the gov't is out to purge them, how is that not going to ratchet up potential violence?

i don't watch Maddow and rarely Lemon, but i am certain they're not doing the same as i'd be seeing clips of them regularly on Twitter from the fraudosphere... but yet again, has no bearing on Tucker

and being an entertainer doesn't dismiss it, there is NO DOUBT the cultists watching Tucker (or listening to Trump) -BELIEVE- them, the cultists repeat the bullshit verbatim & putting Tucker on an alleged 'news' network adds credibility... although even Fox News apparently so embarrassed by that special that they point out it's on Fox Nation, as if that makes a difference, the audience -will- believe it, there's no reason to watch it other than believing it (or to be disgusted)

viewers assume he has inside info or that he legitimately investigated (which he clearly doesn't do as completely proven last time when declaring FBI led invasion & his key suspect quickly & easily shown not to be FBI as he claimed)

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"I do think Jan. 6th FBI/feds connections need to be investigated"

fine, investigate, even though nothing suggests FBI led it... & i don't think Dems would like FBI setting them up as bait either. But Tucker isn't asking or waiting for investigation, just declaring it happened. He has no business being on an alleged news network... he's not giving opinions, just making shit up & stating it as fact.

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"Are there any republicans left in that commission? "
Liz Cheney & Adam Kinzinger are on the commission. Liz Cheney is still a Republican whether the cult recognizes it or not. And R's rejected an independent commission, so tough shit... & they could've had more members on this committee but they chose not to when 2 clear cultists weren't allowed on
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 16:47:03
"Lemon and Maddow have no bearing on a 'news' channel having that total shitbag spewing lying poison nightly"

Don't they do the same daily?

Actually, from the clips I've seen they both seem worse than Tucker and he is shit.

Remember they get paid to get people worked up. Its their job.

Yes people beleive a bunch of nonsense. With all due respect, you still beleive Russiagate and blame Trump even when everyone agrees HRC literally paid people to plant evidence to the FBI that was made up.
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 16:51:43
I just think your quick to tie down every one on the right with the political.baggage of their loudest entertainers but you will dismiss the left from doing the same.

Usually with one of the following.

1. Tucker has a much larger audience who believes what he says.

2. You dont watch them so you don't know, they seem more irrelevant somehow.

3. Fox is just worse.

4. Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 16 16:57:44
"Don't they do the same daily?"

not that i've seen... also, as noted, it doesn't make it ok, if you want to rage about whatever they are saying feel free

as Tucker has the bigger audience, it automatically makes him worse... he's telling his viewers that Dems are trying to replace white voters & to purge them... & completely lying that the FBI is setting them up... how is that not reckless?


you'll have to define Russiagate... was investigating the Trump campaign reasonable, absolutely (as every review has found)... his campaign was a rag-tag group of anyone who would work for free & praise the king, w/ constant weird behavior by said idiot king (however he wasn't the target)

Durham charged 2 people about lying regarding dossier... fine whatever, if only the dossier was the reason for the investigation... but sadly, it's not, thus proving nothing about investigation
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 17:56:21
"not that i've seen... also, as noted, it doesn't make it ok, if you want to rage about whatever they are saying feel free"

Agreed, two wrongs dont make a right.

But you make it out to be uniquely Republican.

Even with Kamala, your answer was "Fox news gives her bad press"

When everyone except Fox gave Trump bad press hourly.

"as Tucker has the bigger audience, it automatically makes him worse.."

Yes, you always find some inane justification.Are they combined, worse? It sounds like your just hating because fox gets better ratings.

But, Fox is the only major Right-wing news outlet.While then left has CBS, ABC,NBC/MSNBC, CNN.

Fox doesn't beat them out combined.
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 16 18:00:56
Don't you think HRC having Kremlin ties is just as bad as Trumps alleged ties?

Of course you don't. And thats why you shouldn't be so shocked when people dont care about scandals like they used to, with a few exceptions.Because you dont actually care about political accountability, you just dont like Trump.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 16 18:48:55
"It sounds like your just hating because fox gets better ratings"

no, i'm hating because of the poisonous lies that piece of shit is spewing... you haven't presented any evidence of Maddow or Lemon saying equally dangerous shit (plus it wouldn't matter), so he's saying worse shit to a larger audience


and there hasn't been Kremlin ties to Hillary (that i'm aware of)... and if Hillary really did orchestrate the dossier & investigation to help win the election they probably should have made one or both -public- before the election but they didn't, i guess they forgot that one, kind of important, element
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 17 11:58:50
Trump has been churning out endorsements lately, i wonder if all revenge-based, or if he's just selling endorsements... either completely possible for the 'man' of no character
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 17 14:43:16
there sure are a lot of lunatics & asshole Rs speaking in defense of Gosar on floor of congress...

and we'll get a lot more after 2022
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 17 21:37:31
guy on Tucker claims the QAnon shaman was brainwashed by....... the feds... for showing remorse I guess... and the guy works CRT into it too
http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1461148420605812736?s=21
you have to be brainwashed to recognize storming the Capitol was wrong... hmm...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 17 21:47:24
also its pretty standard for criminals to claim regret to try to help sentencing

but I guess Tucker and his peeps gotta keep inciting violence... patriots are being wrongfully arrested/purged and then brainwashed into CRT... so sayest the guy on the ‘news’
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 18 00:17:26
deranged moron Trump has had some, presumably cheap, lawyer send another letter to the Pulitzer Prize people which includes:

"
...
Based on the foregoing, it is hereby demanded that the Pulitzer Prize Board take
immediate steps to strip the New York Times and The Washington Post of the 2018 Pulitzer
Prize for National Reporting. Pulitzer Prize Board’s failure to do so will result in prompt legal action being taken against it. Please be guided accordingly.

Furthermore, please be advised that the Pulitzer Prize Board is under a legal duty to retain
and not destroy or alter in any way any and all evidence, records, documents, notes, summaries, memoranda and/or data, including electronic information, that may be relevant to our client’s potential claims.
...
"
(w/ extensive list of items they expect to be preserved)
http://cdn...pulitzer-prize-board-final.pdf

i don't think the Pulitzer Prizes even specified which particular articles the prize was awarded for, so not only has Trump not proven them false, it's not even possible to do so

Don Quixote Trump charges on
Rugian
Member
Thu Nov 18 11:56:08
"Comedian Bill Maher railed against critical race theory and woke Democrats in a far-reaching interview with Chris Cuomo Wednesday night — condemning the controversial education movement as “just virtue-signaling” and accusing liberals of being “afraid to acknowledge progress.”

“It’s just something going on in the schools that never went on before,” Maher said on CNN’s “Cuomo Prime Time.”

The “Real Time” host said he isn’t against “finally teaching an honest history of racism” in American schools, but CRT — which suggests that America is inherently racist — has gone too far.

“I think, I remember what my education was with American history. We learned about the Civil War. I mean, they mentioned racism. We understood slavery and Lincoln … But they didn’t really go into it any more than ‘Gone with the Wind’ goes into it. It was there but you didn’t feel it, this really. Now we’re doing that, and I think that’s a good thing. People should understand that,” Maher said.

“That’s different than teaching that racism is the essence of America. That’s what people get upset about, or involving children, who are probably not old enough, or sophisticated enough, to understand this very complicated issue, with a very complicated history.”

He said some children in parts of the country are being taught — and sometimes separated into groups — related to oppressor and oppressed, adding: “Does a kid even know what those words mean? Would they gravitate toward that if you hadn’t told them?”

Maher argued the concept of teaching that racism is everywhere because that’s how it can be remedied — otherwise people are just hiding from the truth — “is just silly, it’s just virtue-signaling.”

http://nyp...ues-its-just-virtue-signaling/

Funny how Bill didn't just claim that "CRT is a made-up fiction and all Republicans who care about this issue are stupid ignorant rednecks," as a certain poster on this board recently did. And he absolutely would have done that if this WAS a fake issue, but its not.

I'm debating creating a "CRT is real" megathread to drive this point, though I've learned that its pretty much impossible to get you to acknowledge when you and CNN are wrong on something.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 18 12:37:29
include which schools are teaching 'whites are evil' (including spokespeople defending it... why wouldn't they defend what they teach?)

which schools are "teaching some races are morally superior to others, some inherently sinful, some inherently saintly" (w/ spokespeople defending it)
http://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1456051859177758727
(Tucker & others have said plenty of other shit... but i'm not going hunting for others, that's sufficient... plus he notes he's been smearing it for a year w/o understanding it in the clip)


i've said everyone has a different definition of "CRT" (thus claiming "CRT" is taught in schools &/or debating whether it should be is stupid)... if you listen to the interview, Maher says the MSNBC version is fine


my problem is all the fucking lies about it by your side of media (just like you have a problem w/ the lies on the better side of media)
murder
Member
Thu Nov 18 16:55:57

"Funny how Bill ..."

Nothing is funny about Bill. Ever.

Habebe
Member
Fri Nov 19 09:24:42
So what happenwd with Matt Gaetz? I thought he was gettinf charged with banging hookers? Something about fake Id's.

Then nothing, whats the deal?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 19 11:49:38
justice moves incredibly slow

also, there was a time Rs cared about politicians hiring hookers & doing drugs... now it's just wait to see if they were underage
Habebe
Member
Fri Nov 19 11:58:54
Not me, I like drugs and hookers.

I won't purchase sex, but hookers have the best stories.In my experience very generous people.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 19 15:41:21
"
Great job by Kevin McCarthy last night, setting a record by going over 8 hours of speaking on the House Floor in order to properly oppose Communism. We must never forget what the Democrats have done, at the highest level of evil. If Mitch McConnell had fought, you would have a different Republican President right now.
"
~el shit


"highest level of evil"... i'll assume that's about the election since it's past tense & all he talks about

& of course Mitch could've & should've overthrown democracy

still, a large portion of the population wants this abomination in power again
Habebe
Member
Fri Nov 19 17:28:50
8 and 1/2 hours is impressive.

It reminds me of communism. Everyone is equal, but some are more equal.
Habebe
Member
Fri Nov 19 17:34:00
"still, a large portion of the population wants this abomination in power again"

Trump with no re election concern? Pure, unadulterated raw Trumptopium.

Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the streetwise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?

Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed
Late at night, I toss and I turn
And I dream of what I need

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure, and it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life
Larger than life
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 22 18:18:06
The Republican National Committee is paying some personal legal bills for former president Donald Trump, spending party funds to pay a lawyer representing Trump in investigations into his financial practices in New York, a party spokeswoman said Monday.

In October, the RNC made two payments totaling $121,670 to the law firm of Ronald Fischetti, a veteran defense attorney whom Trump hired in April. According to a person with direct knowledge of the payments, the requests came earlier this summer but were only voted on by the party’s executive committee in recent weeks.

Fischetti has been representing Trump as he faces investigations by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D) and New York Attorney General Letitia James (D). There has been no indication that either investigation involves Trump’s time as president, or any of his political campaigns.

A person familiar with the RNC’s decision who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal discussions said the organization was willing to foot the bills because James has made comments that she wanted to go after Trump. James in 2018 told supporters that she intended to investigate Trump, noting that “I will be shining a bright light into every dark corner of his real estate dealings.” James has said her investigation is following the law, and not guided by politics.

The RNC is not paying some of the president’s other bills, such as his court battles over House Jan. 6 committee requests, said the person familiar with the RNC’s decision.

“As a leader of our party, defending President Trump and his record of achievement is critical to the GOP,” the party said in a written statement. “It is entirely appropriate for the RNC to continue assisting in fighting back against the Democrats’ never ending witch hunt and attacks on him.”

Trump is a wealthy businessman with dozens of properties, and he also has built an independent political operation, which at last count had more than $100 million on hand. Trump did not respond to questions Monday about why the RNC was paying his legal bills.

...
http://www...c-b73b-a00d6e559a6e_story.html

shameless
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 22 19:04:55
apparently Q people are still in Dallas...


At least 100 QAnon supporters convinced JFK is coming back are still in Dallas. Today they stood on a bridge over Dealey Plaza for the anniversary of the assassination, but JFK and JFK Jr. never showed.
http://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1462856683382845445
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 22 19:06:52
and a tale of one cultist... excerpt:
"
...
Garner’s sister left her family behind and drove to Dallas about a month ago and has cut off almost all communication with her family.

According to Garner, her sister has so far handed over about $200,000 to the group, and is being forced to drink a hydrogen peroxide solution and take “bio pellets” to ward off COVID-19 and stay healthy. Her phone calls and messages are also being monitored, according to Garner, who believes her sister will never return.

“She left her children for this and doesn't even care. She is missing birthdays and holidays for this. She truly believes this is all real and we are the crazy ones for trying to get her to come home. But she won’t,” Garner said. “I don't believe she will ever come back from this. We are in mourning.”

Garner’s sister was one of the hundreds of people who initially traveled to Dallas to see JFK reappear on Nov. 2. However, when that didn’t happen, the goalposts shifted, and Protzman convinced dozens of people that if they waited long enough, something else would happen.

Katy says her sister’s brief messages to her parents have gone from “be home in a few days” to “I am not coming home, my husband can take care of the kids. I am not leaving until this is over.”
...
"
http://www...fk-cult-tearing-families-apart
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 23 11:55:21
one of the insurrectionists/terrorists/tourists (who had a gun) hoped to kill Nancy Pelosi & become a hero (& would have become one):

"
An Indiana man charged with carrying a loaded firearm to the Capitol on Jan. 6 told investigators that if he had found Speaker Nancy Pelosi, “you’d be here for another reason,” according to court documents posted over the weekend.

Mark Mazza, 56, is the latest of about half a dozen Jan. 6 defendants charged with bringing a gun to the Capitol. In this case, Mazza allegedly carried a Taurus revolver known as “The Judge,” which is capable of firing shotgun shells — two of which were in the chamber, along with three hollow-point bullets. A Capitol Police sergeant obtained the weapon after allegedly fending off an assault from Mazza.

According to the charging documents in the case, two Capitol Police investigators visited Mazza at his home in Shelbyville, Ind., on March 29, and he admitted attending the Jan. 6 “Stop the Steal” rally and later marched with the crowd to the Capitol. Camera footage shows Mazza present during the most intense hand-to-hand violence of the day in the Capitol’s lower West terrace tunnel.

“I thought Nan and I would hit it off,” Mazza told investigators as they prepared to finish their interview. “I was glad I didn’t because you’d be here for another reason and I told my kids that if they show up, I’m surrendering, nope they can have me, because I may go down a hero.”
...
"
http://www...ed-firearm-capitol-riot-523178
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 24 11:45:32
"Las Vegas woman shouting 'let's go Brandon' removed from Allegiant Air flight after causing disturbance"
http://www...o-brandon-allegiant-air-flight

Fox News headline... they don't miss any Let's Go Brandon stories (her not wearing a mask is the primary reason for everything, but making that the headline would be boring i guess)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 24 11:59:33
George Papadopolous (the guy Russia was recruiting...) tweeted "Lindell gets major news from Supreme Court!"

& tweeted out articles from great websites having headlines "Mike Lindell Supreme Court Case Has Been Delayed" & "Mike Lindell Speaks Out After The Supreme Court Delays His Massive Lawsuit"

the Supreme Court didn't delay his lawsuit... it hasn't been filed yet, as even the stupid website articles say... he's hoping for some crazy unfit state AGs to sign on & they haven't yet

(so just the fraudosphere continuously poisoning minds... i wonder how many total shit sites they've got out there, these were "patriotfetch.com" & "conservativebrief.com"... & Trump is always posting stories from similar shit sites)


anyway... his 96-hour marathon broadcast starts today or tomorrow or whatever, so forget Thanksgiving & tune in... -now- is when he brings all the proof Trump won the election (& probably many discount pillow codes)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 24 19:05:52
"Hillary Clinton has been the single greatest purveyor of disinformation in the history of our country" ~Grima Wormtongue
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1463670432582623234
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 24 19:26:16
That's probably true.There is a far better case that HRC was in bed with russians to alter the election than Trump.

Its the real big lie.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 24 21:29:04
I guarantee it’s false (and there is not a far better case)

Trump has churned out multiple statements a day for the past 6 years or so with amazingly low levels of truth... any truth is accidental
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 24 23:58:23
rising turkey prices are a plot to divide Americans & eliminate shared traditions according to Lara Trump (who is a Fox contributor for some reason)
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1463699248726167556

how long til patriots rise up & kill these people trying to destroy America (as Fox keeps telling its viewers is happening)


i wonder if they sit around brainstorming what weird ass claims they can make, where does the nonsense come from...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 25 00:12:49
"
For decades our Country’s very important Strategic Oil Reserves were low or virtually empty in that no President wanted to pay the price of filling them up. I filled them up three years ago, right to the top, when oil prices were very low. Those reserves are meant to be used for serious emergencies, like war, and nothing else. Now I understand that Joe Biden will be announcing an “attack” on the newly brimming Strategic Oil Reserves so that he could get the close to record-setting high oil prices artificially lowered. We were energy independent one year ago, now we are at the mercy of OPEC, gasoline is selling for $7 in parts of California, going up all over the Country, and they are taking oil from our Strategic Reserves. Is this any way to run a Country?
"
~ insane liar guy

so now those 'cupboards were bare' too

this graphic suggests totally made-up bullshit AS ALWAYS (which is fucking crazy):
http://upl...gic_Petroleum_Reserve.webp.png
in fact they were selling off reserves throughout his 'presidency' (from "Strategic Petroleum Reserve (United States)" wikipedia)

also calling it an "attack"... jesus...

(plus general lying about price of gas as he's doing a lot)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 25 00:19:23
"
The Democrats are feasting on January 6th, with no Republicans on the Unselect Committee (Cheney and Kinzinger are not Republicans!) but they are refusing to even discuss the root cause of that protest, which was the insurrection that took place during the November 3rd Presidential Election. We had a Rigged and Stolen Election in our Country, the proof is voluminous and everywhere, but the Democrats refuse to even mention or discuss it. It’s called Cancel Culture, and until that is done, this Country will never heal!
"
~ lunatic

ex-'president' & GOP leader continuing to tell the world that Nov 3rd was a rigged stolen insurrection... which members of his party repeating that? which of the Right's news outlets are covering that voluminous proof? and how the fuck is it "cancel culture"... he crazily called all sorts of things being "politically correct" knowing his cult hates that, now i guess time to call everything "cancel culture"

what the fuck is wrong w/ people... dump this obvious moron fraud from the GOP, stop putting him on air, stop pretending he's not saying crazy shit daily...


serenity now
Habebe
Member
Thu Nov 25 00:35:55
Trump did fill the reserve when it was cheap, that parts true.

It's perfectly accepted use to keep prices stable, so if anything he should have done it sooner.

Bottom line by discouraging production here and more importantly starting a rift with the Saudis.

That's why oil prices are up amongst a few other factors.

Now there are plenty of ways to drop the price of oil, but they are not too palatable or rapid other than making nice with the prince.
Habebe
Member
Thu Nov 25 00:36:28
Happy Thanksgiving.

It seems time to smoke a bowl.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 25 00:58:16
"Trump did fill the reserve when it was cheap, that parts true. "

i googled... i see him -wanting- to buy 77 million barrels (for the non-bare cupboards), but it ended up being 1 million & the reserve was always lower during his term than when he started as it was being sold each year, thus he didn't "fill" it, it was not "virtually empty", it isn't only tapped for "emergencies"... & it wasn't even "3 years ago"


his claims are total bullshit... an insanely regular occurrence given the position idiots somehow elected him to & want to re-elect him to


...happy thanksgiving
murder
Member
Thu Nov 25 09:25:55

"i wonder if they sit around brainstorming what weird ass claims they can make"

Yes they do. These outrages are manufactured like toys at the North Pole.

murder
Member
Thu Nov 25 09:36:09

"Trump did fill the reserve when it was cheap, that parts true."

tumbleweed just posted the chart ...

http://upl...gic_Petroleum_Reserve.webp.png

2017 down
2018 down
2019 down
2020 down

2020 ended with the reserve at its lowest level since ~ 2004.

Donald Trump is a lying liar and he lies about every single thing every single day all day long.

And then he accuses the other guy lying.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 25 11:39:31
and he's so fucking obvious about it

yet the cult wants to make the guy who knows nothing, learns nothing, makes up everything the leader again...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 25 11:48:40
"Mike Lindell is doing a 96-hour Thank-A-Thon to help save our country! He is a great patriot. Tune in and use code JENNA at MyPillow.com to support my friend Mike!"
~ Jenna Ellis

so even Jenna has a MyPillow code... she's a 'lawyer'... one of the ones who drafted how Pence could overthrow democracy as shown earlier in this thread
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 26 21:39:36
"if President Trump was still in office, we’d already have modified vaccines to deal with the new variants" ~Grima (again)
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1464432037536747528

um, yeah... totally a reason to believe that... just like the turkey prices thing


what the fuck happened to people...
Habebe
Member
Fri Nov 26 21:44:26
You can totally blame Biden on fuel prices.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 26 21:47:56
you can try to lay out your case for that if you want

(although won't excuse the heaps of bullshit in Trump's statement)
murder
Member
Sat Nov 27 09:55:54

Obviously if production is restricted and consumption increases, prices tend to rise. So yeah, Biden is responsible for higher fuel prices at least to some extent.

Rugian
Member
Sat Nov 27 10:14:43
I'm just glad that Ron DeSantis has a new voter if he decides to run in 2024. Thank you, tumbleweed.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 27 11:47:20
you have a problem absorbing information... or have been infected by the brain parasite epidemic that makes people be deliberately misleading
Rugian
Member
Sat Nov 27 11:54:24
So you are saying that you would rather vote for an AOC-style administration over a conventional conservative one?

That's surprising, considering that you claim you *only* despised Trump for his personality, and not because you're a far-left extremist.
Habebe
Member
Sat Nov 27 11:58:00
Well, Biden has done a handfull of things to affect the price of gas.

Finally he cranked open the strategic reserves, and in concert with th bother nations, but it was too little too late.He has reduced domestic supply, but I'm unsure if that had a noticeable affect.

However he pissed off the Saudis time and time again and for what? Some eurofags will applaud (while they buy Russian imperial fuel by the pipeline).

Thats fine, but you reap what you sow.The Saudis are in the best position to fix it.

Trump had a great relationship with the Saudis.
Habebe
Member
Sat Nov 27 12:02:43
Well, Biden has done a handfull of things to affect the price of gas.

Finally he cranked open the strategic reserves, and in concert with th bother nations, but it was too little too late.He has reduced domestic supply, but I'm unsure if that had a noticeable affect.

However he pissed off the Saudis time and time again and for what? Some eurofags will applaud (while they buy Russian imperial fuel by the pipeline).

Thats fine, but you reap what you sow.The Saudis are in the best position to fix it.

Trump had a great relationship with the Saudis.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 27 12:28:47
"So you are saying that you would rather vote for an AOC-style administration over a conventional conservative one?"

i haven't said either... i don't accept DeSantis is a conventional conservative... how about Kasich? or are you instantly against him as he acknowledges the completely obvious about Trump?

------------------

here's a recent Trump post:
"
When will the legislature vote to decertify? People are very upset in Arizona that it is all taking so long, especially when the findings of the State Senate’s Forensic Audit were so conclusive, not even including the recent revelation of 35,000 fictitious votes in Pima County, and precincts with over 100 percent turnout (how do you like that one?)
"
~ Trump post from a few days ago...

present the evidence (should be proof by now) of the 35,000 fictitious votes & the over 100% turnout... are you even going to try? an ex-'president' is claiming it... he should have some evidence one would expect (if he was remotely fit)... but you'd be an idiot to do so for this ex-'president'


here's what i found from brief google of 35,000 claim:
"
It is a claim raised last year at a Nov. 30 meeting in Phoenix featuring Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani and has been offered without evidence.

Brnovich's office has gone over it at least once. In an Oct. 14 letter to Finchem, Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Wright said the office's Election Integrity Unit didn't have any basis to support the claims.

The "EIU was unable to find that any evidence submitted to the EIU pertaining to allegations that 34,000 - 35,000 votes were 'inserted' into Pima county's system during the 2020 General Election," she wrote."
"
(note also Trump calls it a 'recent revelation' to make it sound like new stuff being found... it was a baseless claim from Guiliani a year ago (w/ Youtube video proof of that)... if it had truth, they've had a YEAR to find it)

the over 100% turnout claim is so stupid i'm not going to hunt for it, you go ahead & find basis for the asshole to be making those claims (& he has done this bullshit regularly for six years...)


no, he's not just like Hillary or Biden or any D or any R ever

there is MASSIVE REASON to despise him... that's why many R's also despise him... that's why many members of his own administration despise him (& he now has to call them all losers)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 27 12:40:43
also, if my hatred is about his alleged political views, where are my 50 threads on any other person

or is he the singular god figure w/ these fantastic alleged political views that no one else is able to grasp (& that i never talk about)
murder
Member
Sat Nov 27 13:50:23

"Thats fine, but you reap what you sow.The Saudis are in the best position to fix it."

Actually we are. We could simply lift sanctions on Iran and Venezuela.

easy-peasy



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