Utopia Talk / Politics / NJ governor's race

Y2A Member	Tue Nov 02 18:00:13 figured i'd make a matching one. the clowns were up +4 in a recent trafalgar poll, so something to keep an eye on at least.
Y2A Member	Tue Nov 02 18:00:33 *the clowns were DOWN -4
Rugian Member	Tue Nov 02 18:09:40 Imagine living in a state where the leading political candidate is like "yeah if you hate high taxes, you probably shouldn't live here." lol
Habebe Member	Tue Nov 02 18:25:56 NJ is a niche subsidized state because of NYC and tona pesser extent Philly. But yeah taxes are crazy.Cheaper gas than PA though nd they pump ypur gas by law, it requires a professional gas pumper.
Habebe Member	Tue Nov 02 22:35:02 The R seems to have had a better than usual showing so far but last I seen only 60% reporting, so still likely a Democrat.
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 03 01:11:09 In a surprising turn of events. With 98% of precincts reporting, Ciattarelli was leading Murphy by about 42,200 votes, according to totals from the Associated Press. But thousands of votes have yet to be counted, and it’s unclear how many vote-by-mail and provisional ballots still have to be tallied.
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 03 01:11:11 In a surprising turn of events. With 98% of precincts reporting, Ciattarelli was leading Murphy by about 42,200 votes, according to totals from the Associated Press. But thousands of votes have yet to be counted, and it’s unclear how many vote-by-mail and provisional ballots still have to be tallied.
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 07:21:58 Source?
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 03 07:27:39 It was copied and pasted from a "CNalysis report" used as a cite on the 538 website. I don't have the page open anymore, but I'll skim around to see if I can pull that link up.Or just look up CNalysis 538 governors race.
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 07:31:45 Decision Desk HQ @DecisionDeskHQ Good morning. We're still monitoring the NJ Governor's race. Murphy (D): 49.66% (1,176,253 votes) Ciattarelli (R): 49.59% (1,174,587 votes) Estimated >90% in http://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1455869002383777796
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 07:44:54 New Jersey Gubernatorial Election Murphy (D): 49.66% (1,178,445 votes) Ciattarelli (R): 49.60% (1,177,038 votes) Estimated >90% in
Pillz Member	Wed Nov 03 12:34:30 Dems can't stop stealing elections
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 03 12:53:42 populated areas take longer to count populated areas are blue
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 13:47:56 Decision Desk HQ @DecisionDeskHQ New Jersey Gubernatorial Election *Mercer and Monmouth county reporting causing lead change (again) Murphy (D): 49.93% (1,199,273 votes) Ciattarelli (R): 49.32% (1,184,819 votes) Estimated >92% in 12:55 PM · Nov 3, 2021
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 13:49:18 "populated areas take longer to count populated areas are blue" There are these things called machines. There's no excuse for this crap. I think some people just like the drama.
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 13:51:35 "Dems can't stop stealing elections" People who keep others from voting don't get to cry about stolen elections. Stealing elections is the GOP's plan A, B, and C. Oh yeah ... and then there's the whole trying to overthrow the government thing. STFU!
Rugian Member	Wed Nov 03 13:59:13 "Keep others from voting" You mean asking to see an ID at the polling booth? The HORROR!
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 14:50:29 Yeah and stripping people of the right to vote. And dropping people from voter rolls for belonging to the wrong party of being from the wrong neighborhood. And for limiting polling places in minority neighborhoods and making sure they always have a shortage of ballots and broken equipment, so that people have to stand in line all day to cast their ballot. You know, little things.
Rugian Member	Wed Nov 03 14:56:24 "Stripping people of the right to vote" You mean felons and the dead? Lol. "And dropping people from voter rolls for belonging to the wrong party of being from the wrong neighborhood." Yeah, that doesn't happen. "And for limiting polling places in minority neighborhoods and making sure they always have a shortage of ballots and broken equipment," Oh boo hoo, some people need to wait in a line to vote. Jesus Christ you guys love making a huge issue out of nothingburgers.
kargen Member	Wed Nov 03 15:36:22 Several years ago in Colorado ACORN was caught refiling voter registration cards for people in what was considered highly Republican areas. They would take the name and change the address meaning the person would have to vote provisional and then later prove address and identity. They thought most would just decide not to bother. Also in Colorado vans that were reserved to help Republicans with a get out the vote effort were vandalized. THis has happened more than one election. Other things like this have happened in Colorado most of the wrong coming from the left. A lot of this was when Colorado was still considered a purple state. I think we are full on blue now but Democrats still try underhanded tactics often. When I lived in Texas Democrats were encouraged to go to heavily leaning Republican areas to vote if they could and pretend they were confused by the voting machine taking as much time as they could to increase wait times. They didn't even try and hide that strategy.
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 17:34:07 News organizations are declaring Murphy the winner in NJ. Make of that what you will.
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 17:37:50 "You mean felons ..." Yes ... those citizens. "Yeah, that doesn't happen." It happens all the damn time. And in Florida, good luck ever getting dropped from the roll even if you never vote. "Oh boo hoo, some people need to wait in a line to vote." Yes, and those some people aren't white. But that's just a coincidence every single time. And your attitude towards it is not reflective at all of your predilection for white supremacy,
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 21:05:58 It happens all the damn time. And in Florida, good luck ever getting dropped from the roll *if you're a Republican* even if you never vote.
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 03 21:23:09 Stripping someone's voting rights for life because of a felony that isn't fraud related seems arbitrary .
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 03 22:06:02 This wasn't for the NY governor race, but: it would have been nice for Sliwa to take NYC mayor. Eric Adams more than doubled Sliwa's numbers (676,481 vs 293,127). Even Nicole Malliotakis got more than Sliwa when she ran in 2013 (316,947). Oh well. Time for Eric Adams to kill Leonid Pavel in front of everyone.
murder Member	Wed Nov 03 22:27:02 "Stripping someone's voting rights for life because of a felony that isn't fraud related seems arbitrary ." It's a feature, not a bug. The police targets minorities and the poor. As a result minorities and the poor are even more underrepresented. Incarceration also leads to more poverty which leads to more crime which leads to more policing and so on and so on ...
nhill Member	Wed Nov 03 22:35:09 Sounds like a great business model.
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 03 23:07:00 "It's a feature, not a bug. " Oh I agree.Im just pointing out its silliness. Like we can probably all agree if someone is fraudulently voting or something along those it would be a fitting punishment.
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 04 16:02:14 Msnbc thinks that the same people who voted for Biden are now klansmen. They are blaming white supremacy for losing the election.Not thinking how anything they did was wrong or unpopular.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 16:06:17 Murder forgets the fucked up 2nd part. The GOP builds huge prisons to fill with minorities on trumped up drug charges because "tough shit." Then those prisoners get added to the population of a gerrymandered district that looks like an ink blot test so those prisoners all help keep in power the assholes who put them there while not having the ability to vote.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 16:08:18 Biden doesn't have anything going for him. Corona turned bad because of the delta and the swift collapse of Afghanistan made him look incompetent. Delta variant turned the markets south when they were rebounding nicely and has added to supply chain woes. Housing also looks like it might be bursting soon. Biden hasn't used the bully pulpit that well though no president has for a while.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 16:13:49 meant to say economies and not markets. Markets have been mostly the same.
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 04 16:19:09 "Murder forgets the fucked up 2nd part. The GOP builds huge prisons to fill with minorities on trumped up drug charges because "tough shit." Then those prisoners get added to the population of a gerrymandered district that looks like an ink blot test so those prisoners all help keep in power the assholes who put them there while not having the ability to vote." Your Absolutley right. This should stop. They do it with illegals as well, CA lets in illegal immigrants to inflate their population and gain voting power through breaking the law.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 17:39:40 Texas lets in a shit-ton too. Don't lie to yourself. They are wall-to-wall at every home depot in even deep red areas and nobody says shit. The census is meant to count population period. Illegals wouldn't come here if there wasn't jobs that were available for them to do.
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 04 17:43:18 So you admit both Parties gain political power by shady means. But yes,its worse if Republicans do it somehow. Just like "lets go Brandon" is somehow worse than #fuck Trump.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 17:48:14 The Republican strategy of building a prison-political complex is more fucked up than learning to live with illegal immigrants. If you can't discern why that is, you're reasoning is fucked up.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 17:48:24 your*
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 04 18:03:01 Oh listen, I'm all for banning for profit prisons. Im not so sure it was a single one minded plot, actually that seems extremely unlikely since this system has been around long before prison populations were large enough to matter. But you always have this attitude of its the republucams doing the vast majority of shady shit and itnjust seems hackey.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 18:28:36 Its Republicans doing the vast majority of shady shit now. If you expose a Democratic scandal, they tend to lose. If you expose a republican scandal, they win re-election. So much whataboutism and I still don't care about CRT or all that other shit. MacCliffe or whatever the hell his name is was a fucking moron for playing into the CRT narrative.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 04 18:31:09 Which is to say Habebe will bring up the whataboutism where look at what this democrat did and it will be dwarfed by the Republican corruption and bullshit.
Habebe Member	Thu Nov 04 18:56:15 What you call whataboutism is me pointing out that you only ever point out one side of a story while neglecting the reality of the situation. TW does it a lot as well where he will attatch anything anyone remotely right wing should carry the baggage of all others, but the reverse somehow doesnt apply.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 05:01:34 http://www...cede-nj-gubernatorial-race.amp NJ Republican wants to wait for all the votes to be counted, apparently there are still 10s of thousands of votes not yet counted. Tw, They use the same.language with Repubs.
murder Member	Fri Nov 05 06:40:26 There's never a reason to "concede" until all votes are counted. 1. Count votes. 2. Declare winner. Everyone is focused on who different news organizations declare to have won as early as possible, but they don't have any authority to determine the winner.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 16:57:20 Murder, Because with the exception of cspan our media thrives on getting people worked up.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 17:01:54 I will say I really like the improvements to election transparency in VA. People bitch that Reps were chasing a made up problem, and that may or mayn't be true but the end result is that they now can tell where every vote came from.
murder Member	Fri Nov 05 19:13:26 China? We could tell before.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 20:07:42 In all fairnessnthis info comes from MSNBC, so take that as you will but they claim the new laws keep track of what stations and mail votes etc. In VA.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 20:08:56 "China? We could tell before." Maybe with supply chain issues the DNC votes got stuck on a boat?
Y2A Member	Mon Nov 08 22:23:36 glad i reminded the parents to vote against these shitheads.
Habebe Member	Mon Nov 08 22:29:28 What happened with Joe the Plumber 2.0 AKA Ed Durr the Trucker.
Y2A Member	Mon Nov 08 22:42:18 south jersey
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