Utopia Talk / Politics / Musk in Miami

Habebe Member	Fri Jan 22 06:10:13 So apparently he may build tunnels under Miami.... As much as a Musk fan as I am, I currently live in an area with similar issues as Miami.... Mainly that the land is insanely difficult to build even basements due to the types of soil, flooding and sinkholes etc. Tunnels seems.like.building castles on sand.
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 22 06:33:52 Yeah, I don't see this one happening, at least not under the city itself. Also, we're still waiting on that NY-DC hyperloop.
Paramount Member	Fri Jan 22 09:55:14 Let the boy try.
Habebe Member	Fri Jan 22 10:57:18 Paramount, Of course. You can have an underground structure built here, its just expensive because you need to have extra drainage, usually truck in more prefferable soil etc. Its all extra work and materials, probably easier to tunnel through though. Sink holes can be troublesome too.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jan 22 11:45:03 Tunnels in hurricane storm surge land. Better build some nice pumps to dry em out after the storm.
jergul large member	Fri Jan 29 03:50:30 Subsea. So tunnels under water, but not under ground for the most part.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jan 29 03:55:16 I think both this tunnel stuff and Hyperloop are dead ends. Not that tunnels are stupid, but Musks take on tunnels is stupid. Let's make tunnels smaller (so they are cheap to make) for cars. That is not a cost efficient infrastructure for transporting people/stuff underground. We already figured this out 100 years, it's called a metro system.
jergul large member	Fri Jan 29 04:51:24 Nimi A Mars solution.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jan 29 06:21:37 Jergul Yes, there is that angle, but we already know how to dig tunnels and digging in LA will not be like digging on Mars. It is the business case here on earth, I don't see how that will work. It's not just the tunnels, the lifts, the ramps, everything in the infrastructure will be dimensioned after 1 car. This is a good chunk of how he (on paper) brings down the total cost and that is reducing the cost of digging, he makes the tunnels 1/4 of the size, or something like that to fit 1 car.
Habebe Member	Fri Jan 29 07:35:44 Nim, Its a rich tapestry. Its not the same, but im sure plenty can carry over to Mars. Now for the Vegas strip, I think the hyperloop is perfect. Im less certain about say, the east coast passage. It wpuldmbe great though if you could go from.NYC to DC in 30 mins.
Habebe Member	Fri Jan 29 07:36:14 Fla just seems a bad fit.
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 29 08:34:28 "We already figured this out 100 years, it's called a metro system." You are just about the last person who I'd expect to be willing to ride public transit. I'll give Wuhan flu this, it really exposed the folly of the effort by large cities to get rid of cars.
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 29 08:36:42 Anyway, Musk throws out wild ideas like this on occasion. No biggie, you just don't take him too seriously. It only becomes serious when he starts throwing serious capital at the project.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jan 29 09:20:54 Habebe The LV strip is a pretty bad place for something that needs to accelerate to and decelerate from supersonic speed. Not enough distance. Rugian Exactly, I don't begrudge anyone for having crazy ideas.
Habebe Member	Fri Jan 29 09:23:20 Nimatzo, To me it sounded like a good place to demonstrate it. I'm not familiar enough with the science behind it to argue one way or the other about speed and distance.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jan 29 09:33:44 Habeb You don't have to know anything besides baving a drivers license and familiar with driving a car. You accelerate and then you decelerate to a full stop, that distance becomes longer the faster you go. The same applies to any mode of transportation including the hyperloop.
jergul large member	Fri Jan 29 10:25:05 Nimi Sub sea is not digging tunnels. Its making a surface tunnel system that has to withstand an adverse environoment. I think its about getting public money to fund a project needed on Mars.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jan 29 10:55:57 Jergul If that is the case, then I shall eat my words.
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 29 11:45:27 Nim There are far-fetched ideas, and then there are sentiments that are fundamentally disgusting at an atomic level.
The Children Member	Fri Jan 29 12:54:00 butbutbut hypppaaaaloooopppp butbutbut musskkiiiee get outta here, ur not ever gonna get proper transports. time u start accepting reality. its a complete pyramid scheme project. thunderfoot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrbstnzbhZA
The Children Member	Fri Jan 29 12:54:21 when u idiots realize its a complete scam. what u gonna do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCFwFMsLI_s
The Children Member	Fri Jan 29 12:54:41 Rememba, china offered hsr back in 2008... OWNED OWNED OWNED!!!
The Children Member	Fri Jan 29 13:54:44 go get rekted! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCFwFMsLI_s fuckin OWNED beyond ownity
Wrath of Orion Member	Fri Jan 29 14:31:02 "So apparently he may build tunnels under Miami" Most likely he is starting to turn Earth into a labyrinthine world, like Hyperion or Armaghast.
The Children Member	Fri Jan 29 15:03:17 COMPLETE OWNAGE U FUCK FACE CUNTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrbstnzbhZA SUPLEXIN ALL DA WAY TO OWNAGE CITY!!!
The Children Member	Fri Jan 29 15:19:29 hello dfarkness ur old friend, comes 2 talk 2 u again...
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