Utopia Talk / Politics / The Coup Attempt

Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 16:27:05 Discuss the coup attempt here.
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 16:28:18 What the fuck is that? Conan the Barbarian? http://twi...tatus/1346945395230871552?s=21
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:28:44 Goddamn, I need a cigarette. What a day.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Wed Jan 06 16:28:45 I'm anti-coup
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 16:31:22 Sam Adams Come get your people.
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Jan 06 16:34:38 http://www.../amp?__twitter_impression=true
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:36:55 CR: see you and raise: http://bab...even-looking-back-at-explosion
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Jan 06 16:40:56 Not bad
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 16:42:37 Trump has believed at least two Babylon Bee articles tweeting them & repeating their claims at rallies
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 16:55:21 Washington FBI: Two explosive devices secured. But remember, they are white clown supporters so we can't call them terrorists.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:57:34 "Lin Wood More evidence that antifa came to Washington, DC today to create trouble. @realDonaldTrump supporters are not violent. They do not willfully damage property. They are peaceful. NOT true with respect to BLM & Antifa." TRUTH
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 16:59:06 obviously
sam adams Member	Wed Jan 06 17:08:02 "Sam Adams Come get your people." Lol, ill admit id drink a beer with the guy that stole congresses podium and walked out smiling with it. Thats some legit george washington ninja shit right there. Hero: http://pbs...MAEc_bU?format=jpg&name=medium
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 17:08:02 The Trump Coupers has violently suspended the certification of votes in the presidential election. Congress had to flee and hide. It is also the first time anyone has broken into the Capitol by force since the British Army in 1814. From the link CrownRoyal posted: 18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 17:13:44 Paramount, They seemed to have broken a window(s), stormed it and took selfies.... The guy who broke the window and those who acted violently should be prosecuted. Still they didnt burn and destroy shit to the degree of this summer's riots. Trump told them to go home, democrats urged for more " protests"
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 17:14:50 ^ Yep. If BLM had been the ones doing this, all of those statues and portraits in the Capitol would be history by now.
The Children Member	Wed Jan 06 17:15:00 yawn, borin shit.
sam adams Member	Wed Jan 06 17:15:20 CNN tells me that property destruction is still a peaceful protest.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:20:37 " These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever! " ~ Trump being so helpful i guarantee the 'go home' stuff only said due to immense pressure... disrupting congress was his whole desire
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Jan 06 17:20:57 http://twi...tatus/1346957825780690944?s=21
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 17:22:36 "New York Times reporter says destroying property is ‘not violence’ June 3, 2020" http://nyp...ying-property-is-not-violence/ lol. Let's see if leftist media still believes this after today.
The Children Member	Wed Jan 06 17:25:29 looks like police shot a karen...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:30:11 the shot women died (some details of it in "electoral vote confirmation" thread from a traitor) her family should file suit against Trump for poisoning her mind leading to her criminal activity & death
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 17:31:02 Yeah, Trump is reaponsible for her death. Another Karen was not ready for the revolution. They pretty much admit in front of the camera that it is a coup attempt: http://twi...tatus/1346937897060945920?s=21
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Wed Jan 06 17:31:27 http://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1346936310028759048
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:31:44 "Let's see if leftist media still believes this" one reporter from one outlet giving her opinion doesn't make it the whole opinion of the media also, them breaking windows wasn't the main problem w/ their actions today
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:37:18 Twitter has actually deleted Trump's tweets for the first time... the one calling Pence a traitor, his video of 'we got screwed, thanks for your terrorism, but go home for now' and the tweet noted above w/ same basic message in text form
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:38:25 (or adults around him deleted them)
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 17:38:28 http://twi...tatus/1346920636283822084?s=21
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Jan 06 17:38:43 This is what people like Rugian, mtardo, and Retard Rod 2.0 have been supporting. Pathetic.
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 17:42:43 ^Still better than supporting pedophiles.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 17:43:00 What was the deleted Tweet? Since Twitter has gone full fascist and invoked the Barbara Streisand Effect, I now need to see it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:46:30 the 3 deleted tweets: "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!" "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!" & a video one w/ same basic message as above tweet --- again, possibly deleted by adults around him & not Twitter... & that they've wrestled him to the ground & Pence now president...
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 17:48:54 Rofl http://twitter.com/iss_dean/status/1346924002401529859?s=21 Bananas
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 17:53:02 tw At last, your obsessive following of all things Trump comes in handy! Thank you sir.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:53:19 that should the main summary of this presidency in the Trump 'Presidential' 'Library'
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:53:38 ^(paramount's link photo)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 17:55:48 another decent photo http://pbs...MAUh_2X?format=jpg&name=medium Trump's attempted destruction of America
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 17:57:48 when the looting start, the shoo......my hero - sam adams
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 17:58:05 *when the looting starts, the shoo......my hero - sam adams
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Wed Jan 06 18:03:27 http://twi...%2F%2Fwww.snafu-solomon.com%2F
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 18:08:09 imagine having your entire life cut short for this bullshit.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 18:11:48 Twitter did it: "As a result of the unprecedented and ongoing violent situation in Washington, D.C., we have required the removal of three @realDonaldTrump Tweets that were posted earlier today for repeated and severe violations of our Civic Integrity policy. This means that the account of @realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours following the removal of these Tweets. If the Tweets are not removed, the account will remain locked. Future violations of the Twitter Rules, including our Civic Integrity or Violent Threats policies, will result in permanent suspension of the @realDonaldTrump account. Our public interest policy — which has guided our enforcement action in this area for years — ends where we believe the risk of harm is higher and/or more severe. We’ll continue to evaluate the situation in real time, including examining activity on the ground and statements made off Twitter. We will keep the public informed, including if further escalation in our enforcement approach is necessary. " http://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1346970430062485505
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 18:12:19 ...he's gonna go nuts
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 18:12:29 ...nuts-ier
chuck Member	Wed Jan 06 18:24:00 No shortage of fine people on UP throughout this to point out this is no worse than shithead looters breaking into an Adidas store.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Wed Jan 06 18:36:20 http://twitter.com/KevOnStage/status/1346937897060945920
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 06 19:51:28 also, the cops killed a civilian. so as violent as this protest was, they werent shooting guns. unlike the niggers, antifa and other fucks on the left who use immense violence to get their way.
Forwyn Member	Wed Jan 06 20:14:28 "No shortage of fine people on UP throughout this to point out this is no worse than shithead looters breaking into an Adidas store." Well, it's not. It's not as bad.
patom Member	Wed Jan 06 20:30:49 Um, not so bad??? Can any one imagine if those "Peaceful" protestors had been black, the police basically stepping aside and allowing them to roam the Capital building at will? Who knows what was taken from Pelosi's office? Was there any sensitive papers left? Hell, I wonder how many actual foreign operatives were among those invading the Capital Building? Nobody was checking to see if they were citizens or were carrying explosives or arms.
Forwyn Member	Wed Jan 06 20:52:07 Boohoo. No one cares about your tired race-baiting. Protests against cops should be at the police station. Protests against Congress should be at the capitol. Attacking an unrelated party is worse by default.
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 20:55:15 The looter meets the power of the internet: Adam Johnson Bradenton, Floriduh http://twitter.com/ljwr_/status/1346951758866755584
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 21:09:13 Tom, Uhm, do you not remember this summer when hordes of people ( many black) burned and looted cities, literally overthrew a sitting government by force and the Democratic response was to largely let them go and not press charges and to let then be. Notable exceptions to denounce the violence* Trump goes a step further and tells people to go home. And the same people pushing for communist riots claim he caused this.
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 21:10:21 He'll, how many people applauded tearing down government property, but denounce a broken window as a Putsch.
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 21:10:22 He'll, how many people applauded tearing down government property, but denounce a broken window as a Putsch.
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 06 21:12:11 actually hab, the democrat reaction was to arrest them for 24 hours and then let them go... despite them committing crimes. because they were black and only black lives matter. as far as media narrative goes. and yes, they burned down huge sections of LA and santa monica. long standing businesses. go forever. and leftists dont give a shit. and then get surprised that there is a boiling resentment among people who do give a shit
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 21:17:55 Modern leftists tend to be narrow minded authoritarians in my personal experience.They routinely denounce " two sides to a story" as only their narrative is correct. They say this openly.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 21:41:26 did Hillary or Biden call for any burning? no one sided with burning... shut the fuck up about the burning... BBC has good selection of photos, several repeats of stuff already posted: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55568131
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 21:49:56 Did Trump say to break windows and break he law? no. Let me guess, this is where you claim false equivalency because orange man bad.
sam adams Member	Wed Jan 06 21:56:45 Common y2a he stole nancy pelosis podium and had fun doing it. Thats some funny shit. Laugh a little.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 21:59:34 @habebe... so you feel the cultists didn’t get any impression from Trump that he wanted them to disrupt the proceedings? and Trumps very delayed (& weak) response was because he was struggling in the toilet or something? ... (only way he wouldn’t be watching TV, or maybe even TVs there too)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 23:47:36 CNN showed additional video of the shooting than above swordtail link... lots of door/window bashing by cultists before the shooting
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 06 23:53:18 play stupid games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9oThRuMVs
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 00:11:00 confirmed that nothing of value was lost http://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1347056841675726849
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 07 00:11:45 so she was climbing thru window @ 0:42
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 07 00:13:43 she may make it difficult to call it all false flag... though obaminated will still believe it
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 00:14:07 yes
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 07 00:35:49 4 people are dead... the other 3 called 'medical emergencies', not sure any more details on them
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 07 03:45:46 http://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1347106527434432513?s=21 ^ Someone asked a legit question to this tweet. @umph And what about the stolen hard drives and files, and potential key logging devices and bugs that may have been placed. This is supposed to be the third most secure building in Washington, no one is talking about the data breach or how long it's going to take #CyberSec to clear. - - We don’t know if foreign agents took part in the looting. Maybe they were searching for something, stole things, maybe they planted bugs. They could have planted bugs anywhere in Capitol. Perhaps even a tactical nuke that can bet set off remotely.
jergul large member	Thu Jan 07 03:51:14 Para Yah, I saw terrorist leafing through and taking pictures of documents. Espionage is certainly a charge some of them should face.
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 07 04:03:22 If an Iranian agent took part in the storming and hid a bomb somewhere in the Capitol Building and then sets it off remotely as revenge for the killing of their General a year ago, I think I would lol.
Daemon Member	Thu Jan 07 04:10:30 "What was the deleted Tweet?" http://www.thetrumparchive.com/
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jan 07 04:55:17 sam adams Imagine the shock on my face as you cheer white trash engaging in traditional "African" activities like looting and damaging property. You have to imagine it because it isn't actually there on my face. We all knew as soon as the skin color changes you will come around and appreciate the core activity for its' awesomeness. Anyways, grats on coming out as a nigger, I suppose.
jergul large member	Thu Jan 07 05:24:05 Well, Giuliani helpfully provided motive for inciting insurection. They needed to slow down to confirmation process to give certain states time to revoke their certification. The merits of that belief is not relevant.
The Children Member	Thu Jan 07 07:45:02 boring "coup" extremely amateuristic, nottin happened. was over in an hour. the real funny part is the flip flop, da ship is sinkin after all.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 07 13:33:40 Imagine the shock on my face as you cheer white trash engaging in traditional "African" Oh noes the speaker of the house, a notoriously corrupt politician, had her political symbol stolen!! The horror! Thats totally the same as burning stores and murdering people.
patom Member	Thu Jan 07 15:42:57 He Sam, didn't you climb mountains? Did you get a hard on watching them scale the walls of Congress? Or were you one of the climbers? ;)
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 07 16:08:01 Ive been known to climb a few hills from time to time. A few of em had good technique... lol. Alas, i was working :(
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 07 16:08:50 I hope some troll has added the capitol building to the list of local bouldering problems... haha.
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 16:42:43 " and murdering people." do you not think that if they would have come into contact with the politicians that people would not have been murdered?
habebe Member	Thu Jan 07 16:48:07 tw, Protests often have the point of disrupting. These people have a grievance, which is their right. They are allowed to protest, which is their right. They are not allowes to break windows and humorously take the podium, or make the mess they did. It definitley went to far. considering the police let them in, Im not sure it's trespassing though. Compared to what we have seen over the last year, this was pretty tame. They didnt go in and destroy the place or burnt it. They took selfies with the cops who welcomed them in for a protest. Notice how the media doesnt stress " mostly peacefull" every time they mention it. Instead they liken it to to a coup. However when we had an actual Coup, the thought of bringing cops/NG was " just going to make it worse" because they were democrats. Its hypocrisy to an absurd degree.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 07 17:01:51 "considering the police let them in, Im not sure it's trespassing though" the police didn't let them in cops -in one area- seemed to abandon the barricades far from the building... plenty of obvious struggling seen too other areas, & obviously not welcomed inside the building which was occupied... if BLM rioters were invading places of work while workers were inside it would have been treated as much more dangerous and there was no actual coup in Portland & this -was- specifically called "mostly peaceful", i heard it myself... until they invaded... NO different than w/ others (that 'fiery protests' still-frame only works as a still-frame as the video shows "mostly peaceful UNTIL not...") & this one didn't have extended periods of peacefulness during the day, & only turning violent only at night... it was quick to the invasion
Dakyron Member	Thu Jan 07 19:06:22 Should have opened fire and killed the first few retarded rednecks who climbed through the window. The rest would have run away. Also, lol at Trump backtracking the moment someone tells him he might be liable. If you are going to be an asshole, own it. Don't back down because you might be guilty of a class 5 felony.
Habebe Member	Thu Jan 07 20:24:11 Tw, BLM wasnt treated nearly as harsh. How was there not a coup in Portland? Chad literally overthrew a government for 3 weeks. Now again lets be serious and say it was a.bunch wacky liberals and homeless people acting as if they fif something greater than they did. It was hippy commune wanna be, yes. But clearly much closer to a real.coup than yesterday's Capitol protest.
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 21:28:35 rats leaving the ship
Forwyn Member	Thu Jan 07 21:39:38 "Should have opened fire and killed the first few retarded rednecks who climbed through the window." So we're up to two Gaddafis on this forum
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 21:40:28 people who break the law and threaten our democracy should be shot and not coddled like the capitol police did. three Gaddafis
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 07 21:51:58 "people who break the law and threaten our democracy should be shot and not coddled like the capitol police did." You gotta be fair about that then, you gotta shoot antifa too.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 07 21:54:18 Anyway. Did the guy that stole pelosis podium REALLY PUT THAT SHIT ON EBAY? please tell me this is real. What a fucking legend.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 07 21:55:56 “Tw, BLM wasnt treated nearly as harsh.“ you’re the one talking of the cop taking selfies with the heinous attackers... also BLM never stormed a secured building full of people, so no comparison to go by and CHAZ was like a 2 block area with people sitting around outside... I don’t know what you think occurred there that has any comparison either
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 21:58:19 I agree with using force against people who are actually using force against police officers. The problem with the "right" is that everything is conflated together into one big ambiguous "Antifa/BLM". Mainly, I agree with maintaining the democratic order and not having a latin american style banana republic of fascist clown after fascist clown. That is where we are at right now.
Forwyn Member	Thu Jan 07 22:01:21 "do you not think that if they would have come into contact with the politicians that people would not have been murdered?" There are very few politicians who probably needed to follow the protocol they did. Pence, Pelosi, McConnell, AOC, Omar come to mind. The rest could very likely chill and nothing would have happened, unless trigger-happy cops shot more people. Guys like Gosar would likely have been cheered and asked for selfies.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 07 22:03:20 Ya we are looking down a dangerous road if this drive towards extremism keeps up much longer. At this point i think if the dems try to push race based reparations or too much gun control, or the reps try to push an abortion ban, its war. And both groups might be dumb enough to do it.
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Jan 07 22:22:01 " or the reps try to push an abortion ban, its war." I am pretty confident that there will be no war if reps try to push abortion ban.
werewolf dictator Member	Thu Jan 07 22:25:33 michael tracey: We are being told that a “coup attempt” no longer needs to be understood as constituting an “attempt” to seize control of the government — as had generally been the common understanding of the term before the events of yesterday, which have caused the entire political and media establishment to go completely haywire. Is it unusual for a mob to breach the Capitol Building — ransacking offices, taking goofy selfies, and disrupting the proceedings of Congress for a few hours? Yes, that’s unusual. But the idea that this was a real attempt at a “coup” — meaning an attempt to seize by force the reins of the most powerful state in world history — is so preposterous that you really have to be a special kind of deluded in order to believe it.. At no point yesterday was the American government at risk of being “overthrown,” as members of Congress have laughably suggested. Per usual, our guardians of consensus can’t bring themselves to describe what unfolded with any degree of dispassion or calm. Instead we’re told by the incoming Senate Majority Leader, for example, that January 6, 2021 will now “live in infamy” right alongside December 7, 1941. Elected officials issued emotional notices that they were “okay,” like they had just narrowly avoided being crushed in an earthquake, or escaped the World Trade Center on 9/11. This is made all the more odd because the only person upon whom lethal force was committed appears to have been a Trump-supporting woman who was shot point-blank in the throat by a Capitol Hill police officer. She’s now dead. Congress was temporarily inconvenienced. cont http://mtr...an-attempted-coup-8bb8cc9fb39b so maybe majority of trump supporters are delusional about trump really winning in 2020 but majority of biden supporters are delusional about russia hacking vote tallies in 2016.. and suffer further special education delusion that attempted coup happens yesterday.. [besides being the more deluded party.. democrats have also far overtaken republicans as the party of death now.. i suppose adding chorus of cheers to police execution style shooting is only natural for party of abortion that recently adds to their rosters the cnn/msnbc hired neocons and the jihadi loving deep state monsters i suppose]
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 22:26:23 second CR
Y2A Member	Thu Jan 07 22:28:45 "but majority of biden supporters are delusional about russia hacking vote tallies in 2016" who believes this? the interference from russia is widely understood to be in the form of online bot farms and targeted russian backed ads - not changes in tallies. please take the "both sides" bs somewhere else.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 07 22:30:01 "There are very few politicians who probably needed to follow the protocol they did" but as zero know for sure who is safe, -all- have to flee
Habebe Member	Thu Jan 07 22:34:27 TW, CHAZ occupied the Seattle police office IIRC. This is borderline a real coup. I would call it a full on real coup only because they didn't arrest/kill/exile the previous leaders, they did fight them in the streets. But for about 3 weeks they literally kicked out the police and ran it themselves until people started getting killed. And do you recall the Democratic response? Let them go, no arrests and god forbid no NG. Now they bitch because the NG were not there fast enough, which was within hours. Ironically chaz was in "Capitol Hill" neighborhood, so technically they did storm Capitol Hill, Seattle.
Forwyn Member	Thu Jan 07 22:57:52 I'm just happy to have survived two American coups in my lifetime September 06, 2018 Dozens of demonstrators on Thursday took over the office of Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) to protest President Trump's Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh. http://the...ys-office-to-protest-kavanaugh
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