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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 23 22:32:34
may the end soon be near

but it won't be as the OBVIOUS FUCKING MORON FRAUD will continue spewing bullshit til Jan 20 (& beyond)
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 23 22:36:51
Mon Nov 23 22:36:14
Tw,

He should not have had Giuliani do anything, especially in public"

Trump's claims (that will continue) are more crazy than anything Rudy put out... Trump literally requires no evidence of anything, any total made-up bullshit he hears he repeats if in his favor (like all OAN shit), plus makes-up some on his own (like the hundreds of thousands of fraud Georgia signatures)... Trump is Sidney Powell level

------------

"He hasn't derailed faith in the system any more than usual."

yes he has... MASSIVELY more, just like he MASSIVELY lied more throughout his 'presidency', just like he MASSIVELY shirked his duties in doing the job

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What is your 2nd argument missing? Exactly what you demand in your first. Evidence.

Over 90% of Democrats now beleive the system is fair and fraud free. It has literally doubled in weeks. So even the moderate increase in the Republicans not believing its fair probably makes.little total difference.

Plus what chunk is Trump likely accountable for? In most elections people to see their candidate lose have less faith in fairness of elextions than those whose candidates win.
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 23 22:37:22
Iwin.I started another thread , but accidently typed 57 anyway....sanyway....sausage fingers.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 00:24:32
evidence of MASSIVELY more derailed faith:

the multiple polls showing ~75% range of R's believing election stolen; all the cowardly spineless R's afraid to confront the obvious lying fraud given the size of his misinformed/brainwashed cult

----

evidence of MASSIVELY lied more:

listening to him; the lists of his 5-figure amounts of lies by his ~2nd year; the enormous fact-checking dumps every rally/speech; the near weekly 'here's what Trump lied about this week' lengthy articles

-----

evidence of MASSIVELY shirking duties

he never knew anything about anything... he never read his briefings; people who orally briefed him all said he didn't pay attention; he did NO preparation for his phone calls as we saw in every call we got to see thus likely same for in-person meetings; he regularly made shit up; he watched TV all day long; he trusted entertainment shows over experts; he misled on coronavirus 100% of the time when not reading a script, including repeatedly contradicting medical experts; plus one could say smearing our courts, health agencies, intel agencies, media, elections, etc (always just for his personal benefit) is not the role of a president... so many reasons

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 00:34:05
and to add to 'election stolen'... believing hundreds of thousands or millions of fraud votes w/ multiple states involved

so NOTHING like Hillary & anyone believing Russia's help put him over the edge

this is an attack on our entire election process, calling it's a total sham while demonstrating NONE of the claims... not like he got a few of the mass fraud claims right, just wrong on a couple


it was legit cause for recount in 2000
Russia interference DID happen in 2016

nothing backs up the crazy shit Trump/OAN/Sidney claiming
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 12:14:41
Trump has found a new celebrity who likes him... Cousin Eddie

re-tweeting out this call to war:

http://twitter.com/RandyRRQuaid/status/1183010611912990721
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 12:15:16
and this is on the 'President' of the United State's twitter feed too

http://twitter.com/RandyRRQuaid/status/1327043884082409474
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 12:16:36
(& he's reading a Trump tweet)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 21:00:34
"
Should President Trump concede to Biden? Poll Results: No: 190,593 (98.9%) Yes: 2,181 (1.1%) Total Votes: 192,774. @gregkellyusa @newsmax For the good of our Country we must prevail!
"
~ permanent stain on US history


does any other leader post & value internet polls?
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 24 21:11:33
Well, at this poin even legit polls suck.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 22:28:55
in traitor news:

disgraced 'president' Trump expected to join disgraced clown Giuliani when they speak to Pennsylvania Republican conspirator senators tomorrow
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 23:03:03
wouldn't surprise me if Trump cites that Newsmax poll as part of his reasoning why R's should subvert the will of the people... definitely will be of the same caliber of info he will add
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 23:13:56
the 'president' posting heaps more election fraud shit

apparently Lou Dobbs decided to put Sidney Powell on the air... perhaps he missed how she was dismissed from the Trump legal team for being even too crazy for them... yet not too crazy for Trump to tweet out i guess
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 23:16:07
& he retweeted out someone claiming:

"
Report: 6K fake Biden votes found in Arizona “lead“ drops to 4K
"

her bio just calling herself a keyboard warrior for Trump... so i'm not optimistic that 'report' exists
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 23:20:16
and it gets worse...

the 'president' of the United States has retweeted out Lin Wood (QAnon / lawyer) who posted an article claiming:

"
When Sidney Powell stated she HAS RELEASED THE KRAKEN, most of us thought of Clash of the Titans and cheered her on for her gutsy remark. She never blinked and held a stern, a serious face when she said it. She wasn’t joking and now we know why! The “Kraken” is a Department of Defense-run cyber warfare program that tracks and hacks various other systems to acquire evidence of nefarious actions by the deep state!President Trump and the loyal patriots in the Military and Space Command now have all the evidence of voter fraud and election related treason. This will be used against the enemies of America!

What we are witnessing with the 2020 elections is NOT an election. We are witnessing the attempt of the overthrow of the United States Government. The CIA, FBI and DOJ are full of Treasonous Swamp Rats that are intent on stealing the Presidential seat, and taking over over America for the global order.
...
"

& i stopped reading there...

anyone still supporting Trump should be removed from society for their own safety & for ours
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 23:23:25
there's more shit too i'm skipping over, but one last stupid item:


some cultist posted:
"
Georgia: I learned on the @GaSecofState zoom call yesterday that all the ballot drop boxes are monitored by video cameras. The footage is stored for 30 days & is available to the public upon request. @RealAmVoice
"

to which Lin Wood (QAnon / lawyer) replied:

"
Make requests for the video footage, Georgia Patriots. Overwhelm them so that they CANNOT destroy the evidence.

Follow the Chinese money. Follow the Dominion money. DEMAND answers from @BrianKempGA
& @GaSecofState.

They work for We The People.

#FightBack
"

& the 'president' of the United States endorsed that w/ a retweet as well
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 24 23:24:07
so... just like Hillary...
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 00:14:00
I dont know thw procedure in GA. If thats true, is that wrong?
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 25 00:22:02
Not sure if I missed it or you didn't post it.

Did you happen to catch the WH journalists acting like savages to Pence the other day? Literally jumping up and screaming...full on crazy.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 25 01:40:34
do you think it's likely looking through the footage of every drop box in Georgia will yield important evidence of the coup plot between Venezuela, China, Cuba, the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, the Georgia governor, the Georgia Secretary of State, & the ghost of Hugo Chavez?

& why is more evidence needed when "President Trump and the loyal patriots in the Military and Space Command now have all the evidence of voter fraud and election related treason"?


i know you can't see it, but this is not normal... really not normal


& no i didn't see whatever Pence thing you are talking about (unless you mean them trying to ask questions & him refusing to take any)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 25 19:10:41
lots more crazy shit being tweeted out by the enormously unfit 'president' mostly on how our election was 100% fraudulent top to bottom (except all his votes)... & also a retweet calling Biden's picks "dangerous, demonic, and treasonous"
Paramount
Member
Fri Nov 27 01:59:08
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump said for the first time Thursday he will leave office if the Electoral College votes for President-elect Joe Biden but made clear he's not prepared to concede.

"Certainly I will, and you know that," Trump said when asked by a reporter about leaving the White House if Biden is declared the winner on December 14. "I will and, you know that."

"It's going to be a very hard thing to concede because we know there was massive fraud," Trump said without evidence.


- -



But if there was a massive fraud, why is he going to leave the White House? Why doesn't he stay and fight? I don't think his supporters would like him to surrender to unfair and illegal fraud. Many will lose faith in him if he leaves the White House as a loser who isn't prepared to fight for real.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 02:24:08
he doesn't have the balls to face being dragged out... but will undermine all faith in elections forever

we'll see if his cultists choose to surround the White House to protect him

-----

for some reason he did an event w/ baby's first resolute desk
http://pbs...VcAEGTlh?format=jpg&name=large
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 02:26:04
"
I gave a long news conference today after wishing the military a Happy Thanksgiving, & realized once again that the Fake News Media coordinates so that the real message of such a conference never gets out. Primary point made was that the 2020 Election was RIGGED, and that I WON!
"
~ traitor

i'm sure his 'news conference' was packed with factual information like his twitter feed

...he's declared victory over 10 times now i think, not pathetic & embarrassing at all
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 02:27:03
"
Twitter is sending out totally false “Trends” that have absolutely nothing to do with what is really trending in the world. They make it up, and only negative “stuff”. Same thing will happen to Twitter as is happening to @FoxNews daytime. Also, big Conservative discrimination!
"
~ deranged madman (& a fucking moron)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 02:28:16
"
For purposes of National Security, Section 230 must be immediately terminated!!!
"
~ massively unfit guy who is only supported by brainwashed cultists
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 02:32:01
#DiaperDon is top trend at the moment... not sure if that's what triggered his assault on Twitter's trending topics & why he thinks Section 230 must be terminated for national security reasons...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 13:26:14
"
REPORT: Biden’s Thanksgiving Day Address gets just 1000 views online, a record low. Observers say a candidate with “80,000,000” votes would get many more online viewers. Numbers don’t lie, or add up! @OANN
"
~ the fuckingest moron of all time


good job, OANN... that'll hold up in court, mass fraud proven... "observers say"... jesus...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 13:29:24
"
Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!
"
~ completely obvious fraud


but i look forward to his proof that all of his own votes were not fraudulently or illegally obtained
Rugian
Member
Fri Nov 27 15:46:15
Trump is the LION!

http://twi...ump/status/1332346370800447489

God what a legend.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 27 16:49:49
apparently the Pentagon is trying to keep quiet about the Iranian scientist assassinated (probably by Israel), wanting to keep tensions down... whereas Trump tweeted multiple times about it apparently wanting credit

---

also... the moron retweeted out Lou Dobbs saying "Trump says coronavirus vaccine deliveries will start next week"... it won't start next week

approximately 100% of the claims Trump has made about the vaccines have been false (when not reading prepared scripts)... that is fucking ridiculous

one could expect 0% of claims to be false... which they would be if he didn't decide his brain cell knew more than actual people doing the work
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 28 12:54:33
there's a Newsmax article about cultists planning to boycott the runoffs in protest:

http://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1332096853828046856

& now there's video of GOP chairwoman (& traitor to family & nation) Ronna McDaniel trying to convince Georgia cultists to vote in the runoffs when they are convinced the election was totally rigged so don't see the point


when are Rs going to wise up & realize his negatives far outweigh his positives... plus his positives are all about brainwashing cultists, so not that positive if you aren't evil
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 28 18:57:54
"
.@FoxNews daytime is virtually unwatchable, especially during the weekends. Watch @OANN
, @newsmax, or almost anything else. You won’t have to suffer through endless interviews with Democrats, and even worse!
"
~ the uniter who hates fake news


so what's worse than an interview with a Democrat?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Nov 29 22:07:17
of some note... Sidney Powell was pushed off the Trump 'legal' team for being too crazy & Lin Wood was never on it but of Sidney-level craziness, yet Trump tweets out their crazy shit more often than his own crappy remaining team (which has no election lawyers on it, or anyone who even seems just professional)

this is all nuts, never let it not seem so

a real & fit president would have a team of boring professionals (& not be tweeting out crazy shit hourly)
chuck
Member
Mon Nov 30 09:27:48
> this is all nuts, never let it not seem so

Worthwhile thought.

Would also make for a good gravestone epithet.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 30 14:16:41
it's just so crazy... the 'president' tweets out an article saying the CIA, FBI, DOJ are all in on this massive election rigging theory he made up & i didn't notice anyone mention it


he suggested it again on Fox (w/ no push-back from host Bartiromo) & at least that got some coverage


in a sane world the 25th Amendment should be in progress or completed a long time ago... every R & news agency should be noting the -completely- crazy shit our 'president' is putting out to the world & his completely undermining our institutions w/ TOTAL BULLSHIT... how he's making our country an embarrassment to the world

(plus, he checked out of the coronavirus issue in April, spews nothing but misinformation & only discourages simple precautions, now only worried about Biden getting credit for vaccines when he claims he made them... that's also all crazy)


but nope... it's just Trump being Trump... gotta stick heads in the sand & wait for Jan 20th & hope he goes away
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 30 14:21:48
"& hope he goes away"

He's getting reelected in 2024. A sense makes the heart grow fonder, as they say.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 30 14:22:13
A sense -> absense
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 30 14:24:06
seems Trump also said on that Fox interviews that our votes are counted in other countries

that's from that totally crazy shit about Spain counting the votes & our military seizing the servers there to expose the fraud

WHY THE FUCK WOULD OTHER COUNTRIES BE COUNTING OUR VOTES

our 'president' is a ---PROVEN--- moron and fraud... & proven often
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 30 14:27:02
"He's getting reelected in 2024"

no, he isn't... but probably a good idea to run as he funnels so many donations into his pockets

just like he's funneling most donations the cultists are giving to 'stop the steal' into a PAC (rather than doing anything to 'stop the steal') that will likely just hold events at his places... or maybe it's just a scam run by one of the many criminals that orbit him
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 30 18:46:23
"Gov Ducey has betrayed the people of Arizona."
~ OAN traitor

"TRUE!"
~ fucking moron's response


(Gov Ducey is the Republican Arizona governor who certified the election results today)

fucking moron also retweeted:
"Who needs Democrats when you have Republicans like Brian Kemp and Doug Ducey?"

Kemp being the Republican Georgia governor


two R governors not participating in the coup thus enemies of the cult
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 30 22:08:19
the 'president' has retweeted a user named "Catturd" at least 3 times now

Catturd describes himself as "The MAGA turd who talks shit"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 01 13:42:23
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

...

“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the AP.

...

Barr didn’t name Sidney Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.

http://apn...f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

omg... corrupt AG Barr is in on the conspiracy... the media, judges, FBI, CIA, DOJ, Spain, Germany, Venezuela, China, Cuba, R governors & secretaries of states, ghost of Hugo Chavez... all out to get Trump

(but not the voters, voters couldn't possibly be against Trump)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 01 17:31:28
The Justice Department is investigating a potential crime related to funneling money to the White House or related political committee in exchange for a presidential pardon, according to court records unsealed Tuesday in federal court.

Read the filing here (lots of black bars):
http://www...gation-court-filing/index.html

here's hoping it involves someone juicy... obviously Trump & everyone around him are corrupt criminal types
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 02 21:58:22
clown 'president's clown 'lawyer's clown 'witness':
http://twi...tatus/1334327834001731585?s=21
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 02 22:36:50
"Trump War Room" & Breitbart are attacking Lin Wood now:

"Records: Lin Wood Has for Decades Voted for, Donated to Democrats Including Barack Obama and David Perdue’s 2014 Opponent [Breitbart article]"
http://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1334347919219175424

as he was down in Georgia w/ Sidney Powell stirring up cultists fervor but harming the R's in the Senate run-offs

yet Trump himself will continue to support Lin Wood & Sidney Powell as he loves their crazy theories & couldn't care less about others including the Republican party

once again the adults are on a different page than the idiot child fraud they represent
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 03 01:18:50
Rudy laughing at his own 'witness'
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1334392328589463552
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 03 12:22:41
the Section 230 nonsense he posted Dec 1:

"
Section 230, which is a liability shielding gift from the U.S. to “Big Tech” (the only companies in America that have it - corporate welfare!), is a serious threat to our National Security & Election Integrity. Our Country can never be safe & secure if we allow it to stand.....
.....Therefore, if the very dangerous & unfair Section 230 is not completely terminated as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), I will be forced to unequivocally VETO the Bill when sent to the very beautiful Resolute desk. Take back America NOW. Thank you!
"


& another post today on it:
"
Looks like certain Republican Senators are getting cold feet with respect to the termination of Big Tech’s Section 230, a National Security and Election Integrity MUST. For years, all talk, no action. Termination must be put in Defense Bill!!!
"

another situation where the TOTAL FUCKING MORON has no idea what he's talking about

apparently he believes it will stop them from marking his posts as disputed & that Twitter trending topics will change somehow... more likely it means he'd be banned from all platforms immediately
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 03 17:20:14
just for the record, the 'president' puts out dozens of fraud/rigged election tweets every day

these threads are not capturing the full unfit craziness picture
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 03 18:48:26
apparently that drunk (clown) witness is an actress/model

here's her page if you want to hire her to lie more about election fraud
http://www.exploretalent.com/mellissa23

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 04 01:57:30
more Section 230 shit from the incredibly obviously mentally unfit 'president':

"Very sadly for our Nation, it looks like Senator @JimInhofe will not be putting the Section 230 termination clause into the Defense Bill. So bad for our National Security and Election Integrity. Last chance to ever get it done. I will VETO!"

&

"But doesn’t get rid of Big Tech’s windfall, Section 230, a grave threat to National Security. I will VETO!"
(in response to a Sen Inhofe post about the bill)


congress would override his veto as they are not lunatic idiots (at least to his degree)
jergul
large member
Fri Dec 04 02:37:29
TW
You think Section 230 veto is Trump's equivalent to McCarthy's communists in the US military hearing?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 04 12:26:09
Trump's stupidity isn't comparable to others

probably Trump wanted to sue Twitter over their trending topics or some nonsense & an adult told him he couldn't because of Section 230

that quite possibly is the sum total of his understanding of it
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 04 12:32:59
fucking moron has tweeted this twice:

"
The best way to insure a @KLoeffler and @sendavidperdue VICTORY is to allow signature checks in the Presidential race, which will insure a Georgia Presidential win (very few votes are needed, many will be found). Spirits will soar and everyone will rush out and VOTE! @BrianKempGA
"

- he probably means "ensure"
- signature checks DID happen (you FUCKING IDIOT)
- he's pretending to care about Senate races but really is only asking about his own race (trying to sponge off the concern for their races)
- checking signatures AGAIN does NOTHING as the envelopes are no longer attached to any ballots
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 04 12:37:28
Trump doing a covid-spreader rally in Georgia on Saturday supposedly to help the senators with the run-off

but of course he's incapable of putting spotlight on someone else, so he'll mention their names a few times, then spew his typical personal gripe nonsense, probably still attacking Biden & his normal campaign material (as he NEVER leaves campaign-mode)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 04 13:50:15
Trump goons Corey Lewandowski & David Bossie have been appointed to the DoD's Defense Business Board

(Lewandowski being the only Trump campaign manager not arrested yet)


so many people to fire...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 05 12:18:01
"
I will easily & quickly win Georgia if Governor @BrianKempGA or the Secretary of State permit a simple signature verification. Has not been done and will show large scale discrepancies. Why are these two “Republicans” saying no? If we win Georgia, everything else falls in place!
"
~ unacceptable fucking liar saying unacceptable fucking lies


signatures already verified... twice... & no reason to think doing again would yield anything at all & no way to match to ballots anyway

this is just a fucking lie repeated over & over by the 'president' with sole purpose to undermine all faith in the election

if you still support him, you are a traitor.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 05 12:20:29
"
The Washington Post surveyed all 249 Republicans in the House and Senate. Only 25 would acknowledge that Joe Biden is president-elect. [link to article]
"
~ reporter


unfit 'prez's response:
"
25, wow! I am surprised there are so many. We have just begun to fight. Please send me a list of the 25 RINOS. I read the Fake News Washington Post as little as possible!
"
~ tyrant fraud moron

trying to rule by threat... & working...

R's = total cowards & traitors
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 05 12:26:44
25 Republicans are wrong. The Electoral College has not elected the next president yet.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 05 14:07:04
the traitor 'prez' has called Gov Kemp in Georgia to demand he overturn the results (which i don't think he's even legally able to do)

does anyone think the fucking moron had factual information the governor didn't have?

does anyone think the fucking moron had factual information?

why is anyone ok w/ this shit... so fucking bizarre...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 05 19:04:47
"
Between Governor @DougDucey of Arizona and Governor @BrianKempGA of Georgia, the Democrat Party could not be happier. They fight harder against us than do the Radical Left Dems. If they were with us, we would have already won both Arizona and Georgia...
...We received more LEGAL votes by far. All I can do is run, campaign, and be a good (great!) President – it is 100% up to the states to manage the election. Republicans will NEVER forget this.
"
~ traitor fraud

so far, seems democracy holding maybe... we'll see when electoral college meets... but imagine if it was the garbage Florida governor or other cultists involved, how close to disaster have we come

& he's SUCH AN OBVIOUS FRAUD... 50+ million Americans are fucking idiots

mlm
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 05 21:24:14
one of Fox's traitors ripping into Barr for not being as corrupt as she wants:
http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1335407341714329601?s=21
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 06 14:31:37
"
Rudy Giuliani, by far the greatest mayor in the history of NYC, and who has been working tirelessly exposing the most corrupt election (by far!) in the history of the USA, has tested positive for the China Virus. Get better soon Rudy, we will carry on!!!
"
~ traitor moron fraud child

oh no... who will put on the 'hearings' w/ embarrassing 'witnesses' now...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 06 14:33:46
Trump also finds "interesting!" the idea of declaring Dominion (voting systems) a national security threat & banning US people from doing business with them
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 06 22:28:24
"if American men don't start acting like American men we'll have to live like Chinese men. And i'm not going to live like a Chinese man, i'd rather be dead"
~ cultist
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1335777344523563008

finally something we can agree on
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 08 13:29:27
Trump's sedition continues with him celebrating this Breitbart article (plus a continuous stream of other fraud/rigged election as usual):

"Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules"
http://www...-supreme-court-election-rules/

it's not over fraud, just they don't like the changes that were made due to the pandemic

but of course just targeting the swing states that would give Trump win... fuck the voters... appoint Trump

Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 08 13:34:09
"it's not over fraud, just they don't like the [unconstitutional] changes that were [illegally] made [by people with no authority to do so, using] the pandemic [as an excuse]"

Fixed that for you there, chief.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 08 14:18:23
weird that they waited til after election to have a problem
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 08 14:28:17
Trump is also retweeting out Lin Wood tweets (as i said, 'team Trump' may be attacking Lin as he's harming the GA Senate races, but Trump is loving him as he doesn't give two shits about anyone but himself)

LinWood/Trump providing phone #'s of Georgia's US attorneys & FBI so the cultists can barrage them w/ nonsense phone calls demanding they investigate the mass fraud that didn't happen
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 08 14:45:32
this has the statement by the Gov & Lt Gov of GA about the special session on congress Trump & his traitor cultists demanding:

http://pbs...XYAIAR72?format=jpg&name=large

basically just noting it's not legal for them to ignore the vote & pick electors on own

apparently at least 4 traitors in Georgia's senate though who wanted to do it

Trump attacking both the Gov & Lt Gov of course & calling them RINOs... can't be a Republican if you don't completely bow to the obvious fraud's authoritarian rule
patom
Member
Tue Dec 08 15:17:14
Well, let's see if the Trump trio on the Supreme Court can drag 2 of the Justices with them.
Of course if they do I'm thinking Civil War II.
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 08 15:33:54
"Of course if they do I'm thinking Civil War II."

So basically, if Democrats don't get their way in the judiciary, its civil war.

I guess that sounds right for the party that forced businesses to board up ahead of November 3 to defend themselves from the riots that would have broken out if they didn't win the election.
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 08 15:34:53
tumbleweed
the wanderer Tue Dec 08 14:18:23
weird that they waited til after election to have a problem

You have to wait until harm is actually incurred to have a tort.
Dakyron
Member
Tue Dec 08 15:40:41
"So basically, if Democrats don't get their way in the judiciary, its civil war. "

Trump lost the election and has been attempting to steal the presidency through frivolous lawsuits and intimidating local leaders.

Aren't you a states rights activist? Shouldn't you be against the President trying to force a state to name his electors?
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 08 15:45:21
Who said anything about any of that? I was merely pointing out that Democrats think that losing a political contest increasingly seems to be a valid reason to riot.

When Scotus makes a ruling I don't like, I make angry and incoherent drunk posts on UP. When Democrats lose something, they think its time to sack downtown Minnepolis again.
Dakyron
Member
Tue Dec 08 16:30:34
"I was merely pointing out that Democrats think that losing a political contest increasingly seems to be a valid reason to riot. "

Only Democrats? Republicans are gathering in front of the houses of governors, superintendents, etc... yelling obscenities at children to try and intimidate people into doing what they want.

"When Scotus makes a ruling I don't like, I make angry and incoherent drunk posts on UP. When Democrats lose something, they think its time to sack downtown Minnepolis again. "

This is true.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 08 16:48:50
Texas wants all mail-in votes invalidated (as team Trump tried to do in just PA & as Supreme Court just denied hearing)... this is an effort guaranteed to trash the votes of millions of completely legitimate voters

so yeah, reason to riot & civil war if they succeeded... plus would give us 4 more years of the most unfit prez imaginable, who will continue spreading constant lies & conspiracy theories & undermining every aspect of America (he's saying the FBI, CIA, DOJ in on this steal btw) & continuing to promote Newsmax & OAN which are actual fake news

he's a fucking lunatic, proven constantly

like saying he'll veto the defense spending bill because '#DiaperDon' was trending on twitter...

this is all not normal, i hope you can recognize it
Dakyron
Member
Tue Dec 08 18:22:38
He has what, like 4 days until the electors vote and it becomes impossible to claim Biden is not president-elect?

Dakyron
Member
Tue Dec 08 18:24:32
6 days.

So he can flail about for another week.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 08 19:09:00
his crack (& diseased) legal team vows to keep fighting til Jan 6th (when congress certifies electoral college results)

and traitors like Jim Jordan in congress want to fight those electoral college results

so another month of sedition from the 'president' & his propaganda outlets & conspirators & cultists
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 09 12:37:36
"
We will be INTERVENING in the Texas (plus many other states) case. This is the big one. Our Country needs a victory!
"
~ fucking moron tyrant

that case has nothing to do w/ fraud, but he couldn't care less... whatever it takes to win

it would be trashing totally legit votes (by the millions)
Rugian
Member
Wed Dec 09 13:00:52
#OVERTURN!!!!
jergul
large member
Wed Dec 09 13:40:58
Ruggy
I would respect your position a lot more if you had called for a coup d'etat in lieu of an election instead of after one.

Sure, you would be a fascist, but a fascist with character.

Now you just come across as a sore loser.
Rugian
Member
Wed Dec 09 13:44:21
Jergul

Note the date.

htt://utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=86723&time=1601672904819
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 09 14:39:20
The Republican leader in the Pennsylvania State Senate offered a grim prediction of what would result from her refusing to publicly back Trump’s unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud, underscoring the pressure Republican officials across the country are under from a president with a rabidly supportive base.

Kim Ward said she had not seen a letter signed by 64 lawmakers in Pennsylvania’s lower chamber urging the state’s Congressional delegation to block certification of the state’s electors for President-elect Joe Biden, but said she would have faced repercussions from refusing to sign.

“If I would say to you, ‘I don’t want to do it,’ I’d get my house bombed tonight,” she told the Times after her counterpart in the lower chamber flipped from resisting Trump’s demands to publicly embracing them after denunciations from the president.

Trump called Pennsylvania’s Republican House Speaker Bryan Cutler twice to ask him to help overturn Pennsylvania’s election, only to be told the legislature lacked the power to do so, according to the Times and the Washington Post – but Cutler nonetheless signed the letter.


“He is. Are you?” tweeted the Arizona GOP in response to a post by a “Stop the Steal” rally organizer stating: “I am willing to give my life for this fight.” The state party followed up by tweeting, “This is what we do, who we are: Live for nothing, or die for something.”

Lawmakers and election officials across the country have said they’ve faced threats for defying the president. A black lawmaker in Michigan said Sunday she received phone calls threatening to dox and lynch her after she condemned her Republican colleagues for accommodating Giuliani at a voter fraud hearing. Georgia voting systems manager Gabriel Sterling alleged earlier this month that a 20-year-old contractor for Dominion Voting Systems – a heavy target of Trump’s conspiracy theories – has faced death threats and calls for him to be “hung for treason.”
...

http://www...he-defied-trumps-fraud-claims/

so scared R's are backing Trump's claims out of fear of death (& cultists proclaiming willing to fight to the death for Trump)

totally normal, not concerning at all
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 09 16:47:59
the Texas AG is under investigation for securities fraud so that could explain why he filed his crazy lawsuit, just seeking a pardon by the 100% corrupt anti-American 'president'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 09 16:54:43
Missouri led a group of 17 states that Wednesday afternoon filed a brief with the Supreme Court supporting the Texas lawsuit aimed at delaying the appointment of presidential electors from Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

The brief mirrors the argument of the Texas suit in saying that the states acted unconstitutionally when either their judiciaries or executive branches changed their elections laws. The Texas suit, and the states that support it, say that only state legislatures may set laws regarding how states appoint their presidential electors.
...
http://www...esidential-elector-appointment

pure insanity


Texas, Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia are now enemies of America
hood
Member
Wed Dec 09 17:33:13
Where's Thanos when you need him? One good snap and all these anti-american fascist fucks could be gone.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Wed Dec 09 17:57:50
Except Thanos was all about the random, so we'd have to get that gauntlet off his hand.
Rugian
Member
Thu Dec 10 08:19:19
If it was an even split down the middle, more Democrat than Republican voters would die off. Just saying.
Rugian
Member
Thu Dec 10 08:21:23
Anyway, will this RINO AG submit and stand behind the president? He better!

----

Trump calls on Georgia AG not to have other Republicans oppose election lawsuit: report

President Trump reportedly called Georgia's attorney general, a Republican, to urge him not to rally other GOP attorneys general in opposition to a lawsuit from Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) seeking to invalidate the presidential election results in four states.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that the call took place Tuesday evening after Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr (R) called the arguments laid out by Paxton in his lawsuit "constitutionally, morally, and factually wrong" in a statement the same day.

The call reportedly occurred at the urging of one of Georgia's senators, David Perdue (R), who along with fellow Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R) announced their support for Paxton's lawsuit this week.

In his own calls with Loeffler, Trump was "furious" about Carr's remarks, sources familiar with the calls told the newspaper.

http://the...-have-other-republicans-oppose
Dakyron
Member
Thu Dec 10 09:45:38
"“He is. Are you?” tweeted the Arizona GOP in response to a post by a “Stop the Steal” rally organizer stating: “I am willing to give my life for this fight.” The state party followed up by tweeting, “This is what we do, who we are: Live for nothing, or die for something.” "

Also had a picture of Rambo. Of course, GOP immediately backtracked, claiming "violence is unacceptable".
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 10 15:26:27
more than 100 R members of the House are backing the Texas lawsuit (so all seditious traitors)

and we are only halfway through this treason (another month to go)

will things hold? or will COMPLETELY OBVIOUS FRAUD Trump's devil-backed ability to poison certain minds win out (plus swaying minds via death threat from his cultists, that he does nothing to discourage)
Rugian
Member
Thu Dec 10 15:30:37
How many Dem reps would need to be "absent" on January 5 in order for the results to not be certified?

Wouldn't be surprised if at least one nutter starts doing that math and tries to take potshots at reps.
kargen
Member
Thu Dec 10 18:21:16
"the Texas AG is under investigation for securities fraud so that could explain why he filed his crazy lawsuit, just seeking a pardon by the 100% corrupt anti-American 'president'"

except that is a state charge so President Trump couldn't pardon him if he wanted to.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 10 21:44:12
he's indicted on state charges, and under investigation federally... exactly what you'd expect from a Trumper AG

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before nutters need to pick off congressmen, let's see how many electors get death threats or pets/family members abducted
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 11 13:07:08
"I just want to stop the world from killing itself!"
~ deranged moron

based on surrounding tweets, i think this is about the pandemic... the thing for which he never encouraged precautions & constantly spread misinfo & constantly set bad example, holding the dumbest events on the planet

via his many tweets & comments, he seems desperately worried Biden will get credit for vaccine instead of himself... (neither deserve the credit)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 11 16:29:04
fighting back... about damn time...


"
Today I’m calling on House leaders to refuse to seat any Members trying to overturn the election and make donald trump an unelected dictator.
"
~ Representative Bill Pascrell, Jr. (NJ)

http://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1337482153752453120
---------

(his full letter):

Dear Speaker Pelosi and Chairwoman Lofgren:

On November 3, 2020, former Vice President Joe Biden was elected to be the 46th President of the United States by overwhelming margins in the popular vote and the Electoral College. Despite his decisive victory, Donald Trump and other prominent Republicans have commenced a daily assault on the legitimacy of the election that includes filing dozens of frivolous lawsuits seeking to have the results invalidated. Tragically, Members of our House of Representatives are supporting and amplifying these attacks on democracy, now culminating in 126 House Republicans joining[1] a malignant lawsuit filed by the state of Texas against the states of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. This suit demands the will of the voters of these states be overturned and the Electoral College votes be stolen and awarded to Donald Trump.

As you know, Article I, Section 5 of the United States Constitution gives each chamber of Congress ultimate authority to decide its membership, positing that “[e]ach House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members.” This is a responsibility the Congress has always exercised with the utmost care and probity. The parameters for membership are broad, requiring only that “[n]o Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.”

The courageous Reconstruction Congress implanted into our governing document safeguards to cleanse from our government ranks any traitors and others who would seek to destroy the Union. To that end, Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment stipulates that:

“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof…”[2]

Stated simply, men and women who would act to tear the United States government apart cannot serve as Members of the Congress. These lawsuits seeking to obliterate public confidence in our democratic system by invalidating the clear results of the 2020 presidential election attack the text and spirit of the Constitution, which each Member swears to support and defend,[3] as well as violate the Rules of our House of Representatives, which explicitly forbid Members from committing unbecoming acts that reflect poorly on our chamber.[4]

Consequently, I call on you to exercise the power of your offices to evaluate steps you can take to address these constitutional violations this Congress and, if possible, refuse to seat in the 117th Congress any Members-elect seeking to make Donald Trump an unelected dictator.[5]

Just as the American people’s clear vote in support of President-elect Biden must be respected, so too must votes cast in favor of our Members-elect. But the actions of any of our colleagues to demolish democracy, regardless of party affiliation, must be repudiated in the strongest possible terms. Rising from the embers of the Civil War, the Fourteenth Amendment was written to prevent the destruction of the United States from without and within. The moment we face now may be without parallel since 1860. The fate of our democracy depends on us meeting that moment.


Sincerely,


Bill Pascrell, Jr.
Member of Congress
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 11 17:35:44
Supreme Court has rejected the nonsense traitorous Texas lawsuit

may all the supporting AGs & R congresspeople be hung
Rugian
Member
Fri Dec 11 18:56:10
FUCKING TRAITOR JUDGES
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