Utopia Talk / Politics / official BS by delusional fraud POTUS#54

tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 15:35:44 " Now it is learned that the horrendous Dominion Voting System was used in Arizona (and big in Nevada). No wonder the result was a very close loss! " ~ that guy no proof required, it's all corrupt!!! trust him
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 18:39:16 " 700,000 ballots were not allowed to be viewed in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh which means, based on our great Constitution, we win the State of Pennsylvania! " ~ daily national embarrassment for ~5 years
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 18:43:43 "The President of the United States has the maturity and legal acumen of a drunk YouTube commenter." ~ @Popehat (lawyer)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 19:01:28 " Georgia Secretary of State, a so-called Republican (RINO), won’t let the people checking the ballots see the signatures for fraud. Why? Without this the whole process is very unfair and close to meaningless. Everyone knows that we won the state. Where is @BrianKempGA? " ~ whiny baby who will never be satisfied it's a hand recount so if Dominion screwed him as he keeps saying it will be clear & Trump endorsed that RINO (who is now a RINO only because he didn't lie & say he found mass fraud) but of course he will NEVER accept ANY result where he loses, no matter how much he is indulged
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 22:21:39 for the record, GA law didn't require a hand recount, it's being done just to appease him & he's already giving himself a reason to ignore the results... as he's a total piece of shit -------- Breaking News: President Trump is said to have put his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, in charge of campaign lawsuits related to the outcome of the election. (via NY Times) that'll turn things around
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 22:23:55 he's retweeted out 4 heroic videos of himself they should've put that ridiculous hospital visit one in there too
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 13 22:24:53 tw, you have posted 6 times with no response, at what point do you realize you are fucking out of it?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 22:27:41 that's not atypical for these threads... they are just packed with accurate information for those who want it Trump has lost at least 15 of his lawsuits by the way no real wins other than PA being ordered to do what it was already doing
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 13 22:30:16 that is how little i check on these threads. ive ignored them for years, man.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 22:35:21 i wouldn't expect you to want accurate information
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 22:43:54 uber cultist Lou Dobbs rips into retarded capo Devin Nunes demanding to know why Republicans aren't rejecting results of this election more forcefully: http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1327470306571800576 quite amazing how much corrupt idiocy a single obvious fraud can spread out across the world
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 14 14:20:39 "People are not going to stand for having this Election stolen from them by a privately owned Radical Left company, Dominion, and many other reasons!" ~ shit remember how it was the 'red mirage/blue shift' (that apparently the propaganda media didn't prepare its viewers for) that was the reason for suspected fraud? now that that's more or less explained to all, why is there still a presumption of mass fraud? & why would it be presumed to be by Biden's side? no matter what gets explained he will find something new to jump to why is it so hard to notice the totally obvious fraud? recall it was 3-5 million fraud voters (all for Hillary of course) in 2016 to explain his popular vote loss... -completely- made up... (& mass fraud in midterm races he didn't like) you cultists don't notice a pattern?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 14 14:25:52 some 'stop the steal' cultists protesting at Minnesota governor's mansion http://twitter.com/efrostee/status/1327695833773563907 Biden won Minnesota by 230,000 votes (7 points) i guess cultists never need participate in any election again as the Dems can rig the hell out of them
chuck Member	Sat Nov 14 17:53:47 Scary to think about what goes on in the alternate facts universe. "Lawsuits intentionally delay certification past deadline so that R state legislators can declare voters failed to make a choice, invalidate state results, then appoint Trump electors who re-elect Trump" was a big red line for me. Contemplating the decision tree of "if this...then that" was pretty sobering because that's some real shit. If we're going down that road, that definitely seems like it leads to civil war. We seem to be out of those woods now, but the alt-facts universe does make me worry. Some chunk of those 73 million Trump voters believe this shit about 3 million votes switched by HRC's voting software, pallets full of ballots, and all that. I'm sure some chunk of them feel just as strongly as I did about not letting the election be stolen (even though they're being misled about the facts). Curious where we go from here with that hanging in the air. How many people actually believe it versus it just being the latest meme to bitch about. Surely "the election is being stolen for real" is a lot of people's red line on both sides...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 14 17:57:38 i don't feel out of the woods yet he continues to smear the GA recount, so that will be meaningless to his cultists: " The hand recount taking place in Georgia is a waste of time. They are not showing the matching signatures. Call off the recount until they allow the MATCH. Don’t let the Radical Left Dems STEAL THE ELECTION!' " and of course, there's the general wide spread fraud w/ tremendous evidence that just can't find it's way into court... it's so much evidence it can't fit through the door i guess " There is tremendous evidence of wide spread voter fraud in that there is irrefutable proof that our Republican poll watchers and observers were not allowed to be present in poll counting rooms. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and others. Unconstitutional! " (w/ heaps of R's in congress + the propaganda channels backing him up)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 14 22:04:14 " I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defend OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS! Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives! " ~ guy who doesn't hire the best people Giuliani - gullible fool & a frequent joke Joseph diGenova & Victoria Toensing - frequent Fox News guests & very shady people who were also involved in Giuliani's Ukraine shenanigans Sidney Powell - no idea who that is... but googling her photo shows her on Lou Dobbs & Maria Bartiromo... so presumed garbage Jenna Ellis - another true believer christian like Kayleigh
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 14 22:08:06 most of them probably hired -because- of their Fox News appearances would be consistent w/ his hiring behavior
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 14 22:10:57 " Antifa SCUM ran for the hills today when they tried attacking the people at the Trump Rally, because those people aggressively fought back. Antifa waited until tonight, when 99% were gone, to attack innocent #MAGA People. DC Police, get going — do you job and don’t hold back!!! " ~ imperial officer
chuck Member	Sat Nov 14 22:35:40 Fair. I feel like there are lots of reasons this will fail and Biden will take office at this point: - None of the lawsuits are going the way Trump needs them to. - Attempts to get injunctions against counting/certification are failing. - Doesn't seem like state legislators are chomping at the bit to incite this Constitutional crisis. - GA Secretary of State seems to be acting honorably despite Loeffler and Perdue pressure. - Trump's actual lawyers are begging off the case in PA, to be replaced by his TV lawyers it seems - Trump would need to pull this crap off in multiple states at this point to negate Biden's electoral vote advantage. None of these excuse his behavior or make me feel better about the future of country. But I think all he can do at this point in 2020 is try to trash the place on the way out.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 14 22:55:21 with the legal team he assembled i wonder if they are done w/ court fights realizing they aren't working & going to go purely to fighting the battle on TV i guess we'll be stress-testing our democracy... finding out if they can deceive enough people to break it that Jenna Ellis was on Bill Maher spewing bullshit, claiming Trump just wants legal votes counted & is fighting for election integrity, yadda yadda & that Biden disagrees... trying to sound reasonable w/ bullshit... yet Trump has no interest in what are legal votes or not, just smearing any & everything to not admit he lost
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 00:33:15 "History will show that President Trump had the greatest, most effective response to a pandemic in world history. " ~ cultist Mark Levin "Thank you Mark, but the Fake News Media will never say it!" ~ cult leader Trump i can think of reasons not to say it... many many many many ones
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 02:19:15 strange apology from Tucker at least one of the people he claimed was a dead voter was not a dead voter (as confirmed by real media, pretty sure a 2nd one has been confirmed as well): http://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1327450518885699590 "a whole bunch of dead people DID vote, we showed you their names, we proved it"... um, that person was on that list & it was wrong (as you just admitted)... thus your "proof" is not proof
jergul large member	Sun Nov 15 05:58:43 The scale of dereliction has me question why there is acceptance of what looks to soon be a 9-11 death toll to covid each and every day?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 11:59:18 we are in the grip of a cult... too many can't see the ridiculous unfitness of the leader who has told us it's over / going away since it began
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 12:00:55 " Doing a great job in Georgia. Their recount is a scam, means nothing. Must see fraudulent signatures which is prohibited by stupidly signed & unconstitutional consent decree. @BrianKempGA " ~ rotting garbage it was the late arrival ballots, no it was the observers, no it was suspicious vans, no it was Dominion, no it was the signatures
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 12:04:07 TRUMP ADMITS BIDEN WON! " He won because the Election was Rigged. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more! "
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 12:09:35 he retweeted this from Watters World (Fox show) "Was Joe Biden installed? Many people asking that question after big tech, big media, and big money are trying to drag him across the finish line. Historian @VDHanson is here with more, tonight. #FoxNews 8PM ET." yeah, they are dragging him across the line by noting he won the vote (by larger margins than Trump did) & that Trump losing all his challenges (in embarrassing fashion)...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 12:17:11 2 hours after the "he won" tweet as probably a response to reactions to that [+ tons of other 'rigged' tweets, mostly Fox show clips in between]: "He only won in the eyes of the FAKE NEWS MEDIA. I concede NOTHING! We have a long way to go. This was a RIGGED ELECTION!" ~ indefensible shitbag pretty sure it's clear to all that you say it was rigged, buddy yet no rigging demonstrated yet, none at all, thus wrong to keep saying it, isn't it? like really really fucking wrong... but please try to defend if you want, cultists
Paramount Member	Sun Nov 15 12:19:06 I think it was Kreml who told Trump to accept reality: RT @RT_com 14 nov. Russia state-affiliated media Time to accept reality?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 12:19:58 news outlet: "Virginia Wesleyan University business professor and dean Paul Ewell wrote that anyone who chose Biden for president is “ignorant, anti-American and anti-Christian.”" Trump: "Progress!" unity! (yes people say that about Trump voters... as it's true... but it's not the president saying it)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 12:24:18 hmmm... maybe there was legal significance to Trump saying 'he won' " Trump admitting that President-elect Biden won strips @GSAEmily of her cover story that the outcome of the election cannot be ascertained. If she continues beyond this morning to withhold transition resources, she will be tacitly admitting she's saboteur assaulting democracy. " ~ Walter Shaub (used to work in Office of Gov't Ethics, which presumably doesn't exist anymore or is where the WH raccoons live)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 12:39:28 " When AP, PolitiFact, AP, & NY Times report that Dominion Machines & software did not affect any vote tallies, We The People know for a FACT that the opposite is true. Dominion was part of the FRAUD. " ~ Lin Wood (a QAnon team Trump lawyer... great combo) a reply: " Worse than that, the evidence will show that #Dominion and #Smartmatic were created for the precise evil purpose of rigging elections for corrupt rulers. And the companies are foreign owned, created with communist money. " ~ Sidney Powell (another team Trump lawyer) i look forward to THAT proof (also as to first tweet, it's news orgs reporting that -gov't agencies- in charge of election security saying no votes altered, so not just them making it up... of course cultists dismiss that as 'Deep State', as 3rd Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis did on Bill Maher) so much garbage... someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 13:05:38 in case any cultists have forgotten Trump's pattern (which you seem to have...), here's your favorite person to remind you of some instances http://twitter.com/sketchy_jeff/status/1327606514341859329 'should've gotten it'... the only massive fraud in this election was Trump
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 14:07:26 " John Bolton was one of the dumbest people in government that I’ve had the “pleasure” to work with. A sullen, dull and quiet guy, he added nothing to National Security except, “Gee, let’s go to war.” Also, illegally released much Classified Information. A real dope! " ~ petty child good thing he kept him in the job for a year and a half
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 15:57:08 cult leader: "We won’t let a RIGGED ELECTION steal our Country!" in reply to a "GOOD vs. EVIL" tweet w/ video painting cultists as patriotic contrasted w/ video of some cultist being knocked over http://twi...ump/status/1328093294782509060 civil war still on the menu... or at least some kind of insurgency
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 15 17:34:09 " Many of the court cases being filed all over the Country are not ours, but rather those of people that have seen horrible abuses. Our big cases showing the unconstitutionality of the 2020 Election, & the outrage of things that were done to change the outcome, will soon be filed! " ~ pathetic fraud ahh... so all those cases failing aren't the REAL cases...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 16 00:26:02 " I WON THE ELECTION! " ~ sad pathetic 'man' (this is a new one, 11:55pm Nov 15)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 16 00:39:08 so with Trump AWOL from his job (granted not a huge difference than usual) & clearly delusional, should he not be removed from office? he's broadcasting his clear impairment to the world (even if kargen finds it unimportant)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 16 12:00:09 "I won the Election!" ~ sad pathetic 'man' (this is a new one, 8:51am Nov 16) possibly losing enthusiasm as not all caps?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 16 12:08:50 some other tweets by the deranged blob: "Most fraudulent Election in history!" "Try watching @OANN. Really GREAT!" retweet of some guy: "Have changed to Newsmax and OAN . They are so much better" plus heaps of rigged election tweets, mostly on Dominion (which Georgia hand recount will prove or disprove... [hint: it will disprove, possibly why he keeps smearing it]), plus efforts to make his people seem peaceful & other side the only violent ones
jergul large member	Mon Nov 16 17:01:50 Sammy This is why a gentleman's education is critically important. The UK's end of empire was simply a lot more dignified than this monkey throwing shit show.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 16 17:54:39 yet more fraud fundraising http://pbs...EAQZvfL?format=jpg&name=medium "...We can't afford to let [Dems take senate]. We need 2 more patriots in your area to join. You could put us over the top!" ...yep that doesn't sound like nonsense at all this one claims "6x matching"... getting chintzy w/ the fake matching... was 10x on the last one & of course it is pre-checked to be a weekly donation & pre-checked for a double donation
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:08:32 wow, shocking news US army forces seized election servers & seems Trump won with 410 electoral votes http://twitter.com/RealBasedMAGA/status/1328503497428504576 thanks OAN & Louie Gohmert!
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 17 12:09:33 Do you honestly think the us army, as big as it is, is capable of a conspiracy like that?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:09:53 the real™ map http://pbs...8AE_ae2?format=jpg&name=medium
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:10:58 "Do you honestly think the us army, as big as it is, is capable of a conspiracy like that? " OAN reported it... the network Trump wants you to watch also Gohmert never lies & always seems an upstanding individual
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 17 12:13:38 You didnt answer a very direct question.
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 17 12:14:51 Thats the ongoing joke. When asked direct question leftists are incapable of answering and instead shift the point. Im gonna keep doing this and laugh at the continually to answer a simple question.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:16:37 your question doesn't even make sense... the story is army is saving the day (from cultist perspective) not them being the conspirators
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:17:58 now you answer why you support an obvious liar fraud child who is trying to get every American to use OAN as their trusted news source as even Fox News not friendly enough (even though he continues to post Fox segments)
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 17 12:20:27 My question is that your premise of conspiracy assumes some random private in the army will deliver fake votes and not say a word about it. Do you really think that?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:25:02 that's not the premise story is our heroic army seized the real election servers from the liars who were saying Biden won when actually the server shows Trump won w/ 410 electoral votes... including california (& no i do not believe the story...)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:27:44 hopefully another Trump associate & total weasel (Lindsey Graham) soon getting charged Georgia SoS said Lindsey was trying to get him to trash votes... Lindsey says he merely was asking about shoring up security for the upcoming GA senate races... however Lindsey also called AZ & NV, so really suspicious a tampering lil bastard
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:39:21 Rudy is jumping in on a PA court hearing starting around now... according to court records he hasn't appeared in federal court since 1992... the shitshow continues article about it & case: http://tal...e-rails-trump-campaign-hearing
Habebe Member	Tue Nov 17 12:47:12 Tw, I read the complaint about Graham.Even the guys actual account of that conversation do not add up to his claims. It basically bouls down to Graham asking that during the audit who has the authority to trash votes which the signatures dont match. His concern eas 2 part 1. Are counters throwing out votes themselves? 2. Can the SOS throw them out if the signatures ate not there or dont match.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 12:47:54 also on Rudy: Rudolph W. Giuliani, who has helped oversee a string of failed court challenges to President Trump’s defeat in the election, asked the president’s campaign to pay him $20,000 a day for his legal work, multiple people briefed on the matter said. The request stirred opposition from some of Mr. Trump’s aides and advisers, who appear to have ruled out paying that much, and it is unclear how much Mr. Giuliani will ultimately be compensated. Since Mr. Giuliani took over management of the legal effort, Mr. Trump has suffered a series of defeats in court and lawyers handling some of the remaining cases have dropped out. A $20,000-a-day rate would have made Mr. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who has been Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer for several years, among the most highly compensated attorneys anywhere. Reached by phone, Mr. Giuliani strenuously denied requesting that much. “I never asked for $20,000,” said Mr. Giuliani, saying the president volunteered to make sure he was paid after the cases concluded. “The arrangement is, we’ll work it out at the end.” He added that whoever had said he made the $20,000-a-day request “is a liar, a complete liar.” ... http://www...uliani-trump-election-pay.html most amusing is Rudy's "The arrangement is, we’ll work it out at the end." this means Trump won't pay a dime :p & Rudy will have to sue ALWAYS get paid up front w/ Trump or you're screwed
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 13:10:33 re: Lindsey what a staffer heard: “What I heard was basically discussions about absentee ballots and if a potentially … if there was a percentage of signatures that weren’t really, truly matching, is there some point we could get to, we could say somebody went to a courtroom could say well, let’s throw (out) all these ballots because we have no way of knowing because the ballots are separated.” http://www...2653bf5bd85dc1af81871fb9d446cd basically, 'as we lost, can we go back & find some extra signatures that sorta don't look right & toss out a ton of ballots' sleazy maneuvering the signatures already passed at least one verification (i think SoS said 2 verifications as there was a match just in requesting the ballot or something)
Habebe Member	Tue Nov 17 13:18:39 Yes. Well, look at PA the signatures dont even have to match at all....that to me doesnt make much sense. As for Guiliani, he has gone doen hill, I dont know why Trump still has him working, dudes a hot mess all around.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Nov 17 15:19:39 Their identity is verified with the application to receive a mail-in ballot. And since we have pretty every election official they can get in front of a camera saying there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, please provide evidence as to how that system did not work. Thanks.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 18:17:12 Trump fired the election security guy who denied machines changed votes & declared it a secure election (Trump instead believing his made-up delusions...): " The recent statement by Chris Krebs on the security of the 2020 Election was highly inaccurate, in that there were massive improprieties and fraud - including dead people voting, Poll Watchers not allowed into polling locations, “glitches” in the voting machines which changed... ...votes from Trump to Biden, late voting, and many more. Therefore, effective immediately, Chris Krebs has been terminated as Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. " ~ mad king fraud moron delusional dictator (who is ridiculously unfit for office...)
habebe Member	Tue Nov 17 18:38:48 Woo, Was PA audited? Signature verification is a mild form of ID verification. I need more verification to buy a pack of smokes at most places.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Nov 17 18:57:05 I don't know if PA does audits. It's up to the state. "And since we have pretty every election official they can get in front of a camera saying there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, please provide evidence as to how that system did not work. Thanks." Still waiting.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 19:03:07 " The only thing secure about our 2020 Election was that it was virtually impenetrable by foreign powers. On that, the Trump Administration takes great credit. Unfortunately, the Radical Left Democrats, Dominion, and others, were perhaps more successful! " ~ mentally-ill toddler 'congratulate me for the secure election as i totally helped! ... but still it was totally rigged'
habebe Member	Tue Nov 17 19:04:13 If there was no audit then how do we know it worked?
habebe Member	Tue Nov 17 19:06:51 I get your argument that these workwrs are saying they see no signs of fraud, and regardless even with massive hypothetical fraud it wouldnt change This election. But if you don't audit these signatures then how do we know it worked? They don't have match you can literally sign whatever you want in PA.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Nov 17 19:09:16 So no evidence whatsoever. Thanks!
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Nov 17 19:09:16 “ The only thing secure about our 2020 Election was that it was virtually impenetrable by foreign powers.” At least until Donald forgets about it and announces many foreign powers helped sleepy joe and penetrated 2020 Election bigly.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Nov 17 19:35:33 I'm surprised we don't have anything here yet about Wayne County election board refusing to certify (2-2 down party lines). It will end up being meaningless, since it will just get kicked up to the state or a court and certified, but Trump fluffers will take it as vindication rather than partisan hackery.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 21:30:46 yeah, it's disgraceful on that Michigan move... preventing certification has seemed strategy for awhile in the states with R legislatures as for PA you have to be a registered voter plus apply for mail-in ballot with your ID info... it's not like no signature is a big issue I would guess more valid votes get tossed than fraud ones with signature disputes
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 17 21:34:43 Remember when tw parrotted msnbc lines about rudy pulling his cock out in front of a girl, and then it was quietly accepted he never did anything like that. That is why this election needs to be fought. The media is against the truth. Useful idiots will defy it. But it needs to be fought or else we have nothing.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Nov 17 21:49:57 Feel free to provide evidence of widespread fraud while we watch Trump's lawsuits either get dropped or laughed out of court.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Nov 17 21:52:20 Also, Wayne County certified after all. http://the...unanimously-certifies-election
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 21:59:57 "Remember when tw parrotted msnbc lines about rudy pulling his cock out in front of a girl, " no... also please explain for what reason we are presuming there was mass fraud? and why we are presuming it was by the Dems?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 22:08:05 "The board of canvassers in Michigan’s largest county reversed course late Tuesday, voting unanimously to certify the election results after initially being deadlocked in a party-line vote." Trump still managed to get a bunch of tweets out of the bullshit, wanting all 800,000 ballots tossed and to give him Michigan (he lost by 150,000 ... NO evidence of mass fraud, as usual) such a disgraceful piece of shit... we need new words to describe him now I guess there'll be conspracies about coercion or something
Habebe Member	Tue Nov 17 22:08:45 In defense of TW if I recall correctly he said something to the effect " It looks like it could be wierd but hard to tell from the video" ----------- Its funny though that when Trump.won we had massive investigations for years, muellers still in the news. And what was found? Widespread fraud? Nope, just memes.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 22:36:02 there was absolutely no allegation of fraud in Mueller & Hillary conceded the next morning, & transition proceeded as normal (except for the internal Trump shitshow with tossing of Christie & his work) Mueller did confirm the Russian interference (plus there was some collusion including still unexplained Manafort behavior) ... no chargeable conspiracy found which requires proving a formal arrangement between the parties (and Trumps nonsense "obamagate" counter-nvestigation has gone on longer with far less evidence or results than Mueller) no equivalence... go investigate the Hunter 'laptop" for years if you want
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 17 22:58:59 "The Mueller investigation is totally conflicted, illegal and rigged! " "There is No Collusion! The Robert Mueller Rigged Witch Hunt" "Rigged Witch Hunt!" appears many many other times see a real obvious pattern? other topics... "The rigged Dem Primary, one of the biggest political stories in years, got ZERO coverage on Fake News Network TV last night. Disgraceful!" "The FBI closed the case on Hillary, which was a rigged investigation" hint: it's the "rigged" part... & being a moron...
Habebe Member	Tue Nov 17 23:28:43 1. Im not arguing that HRC didn't concede. 2. Fraud, interference, shenanigans etc.its all shenanigans that put mistrust in the election process and legitemacy. "The rigged Dem Primary, one of the biggest political stories in years, got ZERO coverage on Fake News Network TV last night. Disgraceful!" That's true. We have the court transcripts to prove it. Debbie wasserman Schultz representing the DNC in court argued that they do not have to follow their own rules nd that they owe no one a fair primary process/election. This is all public record.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 01:42:05 “REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.” (& multiple other tweets a day every day alleging fraud/rigging/stolen election & declaring victory repeatedly) what's the Dem equivalent to that?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 12:59:45 here's the coercion tweet i predicted... "...they were threatened, screamed at and viciously harassed, and were FORCED to change their vote..." ------ anyway, " New @MonmouthPoll: 77% of Trump voters think Biden won because of "fraud." 19% believe Trump's delaying of the transition is a threat to national security " polling hasn't been superb, but this is likely in the ballpark (& if anything, probably worse as Trump voters hard to poll) so maybe ~60 million people will think this election was stolen with mass fraud, requiring no actual proof of it... just accepting the constant flow of bullshit from an obvious liar fraud spewing out shit 50 times a day & his allies backing him up & Trump needs 3+ states to flip, so major amounts of fraud across multiple states (imagine if this was close like in 2000)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 13:17:31 also of note, the polls showed Biden would likely win... and it was noted that even if polls were off as much as for Hillary he would still win -nothing- suspicious about him winning
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 13:22:42 " The Georgia recount is a joke and is being done UNDER PROTEST. Even though thousands of fraudulent votes have been found, the real number is in matching signatures. Governor must open up the unconstitutional Consent Decree and call in the Legislature! " ~ SUCH an OBVIOUS fraud a) thousands of fraud votes were not found b) so the real rigging is in the signatures... (as that's only thing not being re-checked apparently, so that must be where all the fraud is)... & i doubt any way to link a ballot back to an envelope anyway this audit/hand-count disproves ALL the Dominion nonsense, but of course he won't acknowledge it a bit... i guess the Dominion rigging was just in the other states, they didn't do it in GA as they knew there'd be a hand count? break free, cultists... this asshole liar could not be more obvious
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 15:28:21 Trump canceled his Mar-a-Lago Thanksgiving trip... probably afraid they won't let him back in however, Kayleigh claims 'he's hard at work on Covid... and on bringing troops home' (yeah, right... please detail that 'hard work' he's doing) i don't believe he has tweeted a single word about covid since election (& months prior really) other than to take credit for vaccine news & claim Pfizer & FDA they waited til after election to make announcements to screw him (FDA has made no vaccine announcements & has had no reason to)
Rugian Member	Wed Nov 18 17:49:33 "Tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Nov 18 13:17:31 also of note, the polls showed Biden would likely win" Polls also showed 27 House races as toss-ups and Democrats as likely to take the Senate. How did those work out again?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 18:07:45 and Biden didn't win by as much as they suggested he had lots of padding... what is the indication of fraud? other than Trump priming people to say there'd be mass fraud all year long
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 18:10:23 "I WON THE ELECTION. VOTER FRAUD ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!" ~ guy who should've been 25th Amendment'd at multiple points in time (this is a new one, 8:31am Nov 18)
obaminated Member	Wed Nov 18 18:11:49 once again it is hilarious. tw is a sore loser. he is also a sore winner. and when i say tw i mean to include the collect insane left who has been convinced trump is a dictator for the past 4 years by the MSM.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 19:05:22 i'm a sore winner because i don't like Trump & his loyalists undermining all faith in elections for 60 million gullible brainwashed people? are you cool with what Trump's doing? plus denying transition info/resources?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 18 19:13:36 also why isn't he claiming Rs won the House or more Senate seats... the made-up millions of fraud votes didn't affect other races? it's almost like he's only interested in himself...
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 18 19:17:49 Rugian, 29 " toss ups " eld.by Republicans. I beleive Rs held 27 or 28 of them..... Still waiting on CA and NY for races but, razor thin majority.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 02:03:43 Trump tweeted out an OAN video (on Dominion nonsense, which will be all be completely disproven tomorrow when GA hand count results revealed) does anyone on the planet think the 'president' should be trusting or promoting OAN? this is the video, the fakeness oozes from their voices... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKcPoCNW8AA&feature=emb_logo & their expert is an 8chan owner which doesn't inspire confidence
Rugian Member	Thu Nov 19 09:59:11 Clear your calendars people! "Important News Conference today by lawyers on a very clear and viable path to victory. Pieces are very nicely falling into place. RNC at 12:00 P.M." 4d chess moves are in effect!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 12:14:14 & he added " Lawyers now on @newsmax, @OANN & maybe @FoxNews. An open and shut case of voter fraud. Massive numbers! " it's nice that he's so straight with the American people all the time
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 12:17:22 " “Evidence of voter fraud continues to grow, including 20,000 dead people on the Pennsylvania voters roll and many thousands all over the Country. Now, there has been an artificial number of votes in favor of Joe Biden.” @OANN " voter rolls are NOT voters... he makes this 'mistake' constantly... yes, dead people should be removed from voter rolls better, but NO, it is NOT evidence of fraud AT ALL i'm sure there are more dead voters on voter rolls than ever w/ his terrible covid response... (& 3 of the 4 dead voters team Trump / Tucker alleged in Georgia, are not dead voters)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 12:18:36 Rudy's hair dye running... http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329482404684238848
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 12:25:54 the My Cousin Vinny offense http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329476554922074115
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 12:27:38 the running dye really slims down his face... or something http://pbs...4AIxE9y?format=jpg&name=medium
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 12:44:40 Rudy claims they can flip Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, and Arizona to Trump by more than double the # of votes needed so much fraud in our system!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 19 13:31:38 Giuliani was not the only joke at the event here's Sidney Powell, conspiracy theorist lawyer, saying communist money involved & claiming Dominion was made in Venezuela to rig Hugo Chavez elections or some such bullshit... (appears to be total nonsense, Dominion seems to have no Venezuela connection) http://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1329486814558752769
Rugian Member	Thu Nov 19 13:38:29 A very successful press conference. The Biden "presidency" is unraveling before it even begins. FOUR MORE YEARS.
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