Utopia Talk / Politics / Fed troops leave Portland aaaand

obaminated Member	Fri Aug 07 09:36:19 Niggers immediately try to burn down a police precinct qith police inside. http://www...ting-fire-police-precinct.html Also, lol at these terrorists being called protesters.
Turtle Crawler Admin	Fri Aug 07 10:23:58 There aren't very many black people in Portland, those doing it are almost certainly white.
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 07 10:29:44 The violence itself aside, how fucked up is it that a state governor's line of reasoning for why people shouldn't engage in arson is essentially "it makes the President of the United States look good?"
Paramount Member	Fri Aug 07 10:35:24 Is the war going to start soon?
Seb Member	Fri Aug 07 10:39:29 would this have happened if there hadn't been this initial heavy handed response that has served to radicalise and polarise? Trump got what he wanted: provoke a political campaign ad on law and order that helps divide and polarise. The federal intervention was not with the intent to forestall this, it was to create the conditions for it.
Renzo Marquez Member	Fri Aug 07 10:41:26 Seb Member Fri Aug 07 10:39:29 "would this have happened if there hadn't been this initial heavy handed response that has served to radicalise and polarise?" Yes. Things of this nature were happening before the feds intervened. For many weeks. It's been extensively documented.
patom Member	Fri Aug 07 11:45:54 So how many are being arrested? Do we know if the arsonists are even natives of Portland or imported agitators? Wouldn't it be ironic if they are traced back to Trump or one of his proxy backers? Trumps next move will be 'Martial Law'.
obaminated Member	Fri Aug 07 11:47:24 They arent trump proxies, patom. Thats an unfounded conspiracy theory you just made up.
obaminated Member	Fri Aug 07 11:49:13 And yeah, they arent all niggers but i dont consider all blacks to be niggers fyi, just the ones who cant get their house in order and decide to commit crime instead. The rest are certainly antifa which are mostly white kids from the burbs.
Seb Member	Fri Aug 07 11:57:21 Renzo: This wasn't extensively reported here prior to the fed deployment. Are there any specific reports you can point to confirming actual arson etc on federal or police buildings prior to feds deployment? I can see reports of graffiti. But such is googles desire to show people what they think those people want to know, and reputable sources liberal use of paywalls, I concede this may not be accurate. *If* that's accurate and it's only graffiti, all the federal deployment has done is establish dangerous precedents about what the federal govt can do, radicalised and inflamed the situation, and injured a lot of people.
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 07 12:04:01 Typical of Seb to blame law enforcement. Leftist rioters can never be responsible for their own actions. Also, arson has been a common feature of the "mostly peaceful" protest since theyve started. Here's an article from June: PF&R lists dozens of ongoing fire investigations KOIN 6 News Staff 2 months ago Protesters broke into the Justice Center, Pioneer Place Mall and set fires in downtown Portland after a vigil for George Floyd, May 29, 2020 (KOIN) PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — Both the Portland Police Bureau and Portland Fire & Rescue Arson Investigators are actively investigating a large number of fires set near Downtown Portland since May 29. Investigators have created a map displaying the reported fires throughout the metro area. While the total number of fires are not all directly related to the weeks of protests, the vast majority were started in or around areas of demonstrations. On May 30, the second second consecutive night of protesting over the death of George Floyd, 23 different fires were reported, the most one day during the unrest. Thirteen people were arrested during the May 30 demonstrations. One June 5, fire investigators reported an uptick in arson for the previous eight days. Fires by the numbers May 29: 5 fires reported May 30: 23 fires reported; the most in one single day during the time frame May 31: 6 fires reported June 1: 13 fires reported June 2: 3 fires reported June 3: 7 fires reported June 4: 14 fires reported June 5: 8 fires reported June 6: 11 fires reported June 7: 3 fires reported June 8: 1 fire reported" http://www...going-fire-investigations/amp/
Paramount Member	Fri Aug 07 12:08:39 Has Trump designated Antifa as terrorists yet? If he has then he should be able to order his troops to shoot them all.
Seb Member	Fri Aug 07 12:13:03 Rugian: Quick question, if a picket line sets up a brazier in an oil drum, does that count as a fire report?
Seb Member	Fri Aug 07 12:14:43 Also, given the troops were deployed in July, were the reports of fires continuing to the end of june, or had that stopped by the time the feds were deployed?
sam adams Member	Fri Aug 07 12:17:09 Lol@seb not knowing the riots started before the feds. Only about 45 days of riots before the feds came in.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Aug 07 12:19:22 'fires reported...fires reported' those aren't building fires, they are things like trashcan fires
sam adams Member	Fri Aug 07 12:21:05 Most of them were sjws trying to burn the white mans statues. ...except the statues are made of metal... and surprisingly they dont burn.
TJ Member	Fri Aug 07 12:53:07 Portland Mayor is concerned that what he allowed to happen is damaging the Democratic chances in the Presidential Election. Anyone know what is up with jergul? It seems his most recent post was approximately 17 days ago.
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 07 13:11:56 Seb crushed him in an argument so badly that he fled the board.
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 07 13:12:45 Seb Demonstrations have been continuous ever since May.
Renzo Marquez Member	Fri Aug 07 13:18:51 Seb Member Fri Aug 07 11:57:21 "Renzo: This wasn't extensively reported here prior to the fed deployment." Have you considered why it wasn't extensively reported on?
TJ Member	Fri Aug 07 13:40:07 "Have you considered why it wasn't extensively reported on?" Confirmation bias... Who is going to denigrate the institution below? http://www...os-and-anarchy-portland-oregon
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 07 13:42:06 Yeah seriously. If anything, this is a prime example of the media's gatekeeping abilities. The public sees what our benevolent overlords at CNN and BBC want us to see, and prevents us from seeing what they dont.
TJ Member	Fri Aug 07 13:44:23 Rugian Member Fri Aug 07 13:11:56 Seb crushed him in an argument so badly that he fled the board. Rugian, please provide me a link to that argument. I've not been that active and must have missed.
Daemon Member	Fri Aug 07 14:51:46 OK situation is out of control in Portland, peaceful citizens are getting harassed, send the troops, please: http://www...armband/ar-BB17EuLL?li=BBnbcA1
Daemon Member	Fri Aug 07 14:52:35 And jergul has overdosed on his "supplements"
Pillz Member	Fri Aug 07 16:34:00 Inb4 post by jergul's brother
Seb Member	Fri Aug 07 17:13:55 Sam/Rugian: I didn't say riot. Nor demonstrations. I said arson.
Seb Member	Fri Aug 07 17:14:49 TJ: I've not had any big argument with jergul recently. Rugian is probably joking.
TJ Member	Fri Aug 07 17:16:12 Seb: I figured as much when no link was provided. Thanks for the verification.
sam adams Member	Fri Aug 07 17:40:08 Seb, there were repeated arson attempts, mostly minor, before during and after the fed deployment. These were part of the ongoing portland riots, again mostly minor, before during and after. You really should not be commenting with this level of foreign ignorance. 43(i gave you a dumbass point back for your relatively intelligent comments on beirut).
Pillz Member	Fri Aug 07 18:07:00 Sam has clearly been replaced
Seb Member	Sat Aug 08 03:14:36 Sam: Any documentation of that? At all, you previously insisted I should ignore anything you say without one.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Aug 08 04:30:35 TJ Pretty sure he is on vaccation. July-August is normally when Scandinavians go on vaccation. It’s 4 weeks long, so it may be a good time to tale a vaccation from UP as well.
Paramount Member	Sat Aug 08 04:34:28 We actually have 5 weeks of paid vacation. All thanks to socialism.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Aug 08 04:38:55 I keep forgetting, but yes 25 days.
Pillz Member	Sat Aug 08 06:18:04 So we'll know what's up in a week?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Aug 08 07:02:09 I’m pretty sure ”we” have wondered this before, during the same period of the year about Jergul. Maybe it was even last year. For sure it feels empty whenever the more prolific posters go silent, even worrisome. It is the closest thing we get to that resemebles ❤️
TJ Member	Sat Aug 08 10:19:51 Nim: Naturally, vacationing was my first thought, just was wondering if anyone knew for certain with c-19 floating around the planet.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Aug 08 10:38:22 You never know, but knowing jergul, he would argue covid to death. He will surely appreciate that we worried for him :)
Pillz Member	Sat Aug 08 10:57:58 He lives in the tundra. He isn't catching corona unless the whales have it.
Pillz Member	Sat Aug 08 10:58:42 Hope he broke a leg in the forest and was eaten by wolves.
Paramount Member	Sat Aug 08 11:05:31 Maybe he lost his job because Chinese are not buying his salmon anymore, so he can’t afford to pay for internet any longer? Norwegian salmon blamed for Beijing coronavirus outbreak Chinese consumers have almost completely stopped buying imported salmon from Norway after a coronavirus outbreak at a fish market in Beijing was blamed on the fish. http://www...r-beijing-coronavirus-outbreak
Pillz Member	Sat Aug 08 13:23:11 Jergul confirmed for death cult bio twrrorist
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Sun Aug 09 14:50:15 http://twitter.com/_WhatRiot/status/1292205023435186177
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Sun Aug 09 14:50:36 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vhKy7Yob8Y
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Sun Aug 09 15:03:24 http://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1292213849202933760
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