Utopia Talk / Politics / The Great Climate Migration

Paramount Member	Sun Jul 26 16:32:29 Where will everyone go? http://www...agazine/climate-migration.html
sam adams Member	Sun Jul 26 17:09:00 Rofl. Nytimes.... rofl some more
Habebe Member	Sun Jul 26 17:18:39 Well, Im gathering up enough mags folk as possible so that we can move to Norway and form a new political party to piss off jergul.
sam adams Member	Sun Jul 26 17:24:01 You just know that left wing retards are going to use a very minor temperature increase as justification for open borders and reparations for all non-white people.
Paramount Member	Mon Jul 27 01:00:15 Maybe this link is better if you don’t like NYT. http://fea...fugees-move-across-continents/ I don’t think the solution is open borders. But the question is what do we do when millions of south americans are at the borders of the US, when millions of africans are at the borders of the EU? How many can we take?
Habebe Member	Mon Jul 27 01:01:13 Maga*
Habebe Member	Mon Jul 27 01:06:06 http://e36...s-now-say-it-must-be-an-option
Habebe Member	Mon Jul 27 01:06:40 Or we could always pump a bhnch of clouds up really high.
Hrothgar Member	Mon Jul 27 01:28:58 imo seems like it would be easier to develop mass scale use of solar powered machines to strip Carbon out of sea water solid form and than try to maintain artificial global cloud cover basically forever Habebe. For example: http://www...eases/2018/06/180625192825.htm
Habebe Member	Mon Jul 27 03:58:01 Hrothgar, Well, those are different solutions that work differently. Trapping carbon and removing it is great. As is reducing our carbon production. The beauty of the cloud solutions is that its rapid. Perhaps a stacked approach pf all three, or some other ones. http://youtu.be/-30CdS8xiyM
Habebe Member	Mon Jul 27 04:00:52 The study’s prospective authors held their first meeting in Washington, D.C., at the end of April. Speakers included David Keith, a Harvard University physicist who has developed his own patented technology for using chemistry to remove CO2 directly from the atmosphere, and Kelly Wanser of the Marine Cloud Brightening Project, which is studying the efficacy of seeding clouds with sea salt and other materials to reflect more sunlight back into space. The project is preparing for future field trials.
Habebe Member	Mon Jul 27 04:07:49 Actually, with all of Starlinks satellites going up many astronomers have already been bitching. But if it blocks the view of the sky to such a degree, does that effect climate change? I mean can the satellites reduce the temp. Of the planet even the slightest while also giving us fast internet everywhere.
Wrath of Orion Member	Mon Jul 27 10:18:29 "But if it blocks the view of the sky to such a degree, does that effect climate change?" Erm, "blocking the sky" is not the problem the satellites are/will create. They reflect light back to the surface (visible to the naked eye). That's an issue for amateur astronomers and general night sky pollution, but steps have been taken that will probably take care of that. However, the observatories will still be able to see them, and that becomes a problem since many algorithms looking for objects (including NEO's) are using movement and frame comparisons to detect that. Oops...now you've got a shitload of movement up there and your ability to detect NEO's and shit like that may be lowered. So yeah, it's a legit concern, but nobody is certain yet how bad a 42k constellation would be or how effective some solutions might be.
Wrath of Orion Member	Mon Jul 27 10:22:23 Oh, I meant to add that the movement of the satellites causes streaks, because astronomy deals with long exposures to gather light and detect changes. So while they're not blocking the sky like you were referring to, those streaks become extremely problematic for observatories.
Habebe Member	Mon Jul 27 15:56:04 Woo, Thank you for the clarification. Let me ask you this, could the cloud brightening project cause problems with the views?
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