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patom
rank Thu Feb 06 18:19:39 2020
In my old age I can never stay awake this late and have honestly never seen this show. I have to admit that this guy nailed it in this monologue:

https://ww...check-state-of-the-union-02-04

patom
rank Thu Feb 06 18:20:06 2020
http://www...check-state-of-the-union-02-04

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 18:26:11 2020
Patom,

You cant simultaneously be a critic of Fox News and a fan of Colbert. The guy's entire show consists of preaching to the choir on politics every night.

hood
rank Thu Feb 06 18:30:30 2020
What? Colbert is a comedian. FOX is supposed to be unbiasedly delivering news. It's entirely reasonable to find a comedian funny, whether they're biased or not, and be critical of a news organization that presents opinion as fact.

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 18:33:28 2020
"Colbert is a comedian"

No. He's a pundit that hides behind comedy.

Seriously, did we teleport back to 2008 or something? The Daily Show excuse of "we're not political shills, we're just comedians" is so ancient that I'm flash backing to the GWB years.

hood
rank Thu Feb 06 18:42:50 2020
Your insistence that your illusory alternate reality be accepted as fact is pretty tiring.

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 18:54:43 2020
Hood,

I think you need to learn to shut the fuck up when you have no idea what you're talking about.

The fact that the Daily Show and its spinoff programs are considered a serious source of influence for the political leanings of younger viewers has only been known since the early 2000s.

----

Jon Stewart is leaving the ‘Daily Show.’ Where will young liberals get their news now?

By Aaron Blake
Senior reporter
February 11, 2015 at 6:30 AM EST

Jon Stewart is leaving the "Daily Show" at the end of the year. Stephen Colbert left the "Colbert Report" a few months ago to take over for David Letterman at CBS.

And as they head out the door, so do leading news sources for many of the youngest, most liberal Americans.

A 2012 poll from the Pew Research Center showed the two Comedy Central shows had some of the most liberal and youngest audiences in the media.

While 43 percent of adult "Report" viewers were between 18 and 29 years old, 39 percent of "Daily Show" viewers were. No other program or outlet tested had such a young audience.

Similarly, 43 percent of "Daily Show" viewers and 40 percent of "Report" viewers were liberals. Both ranked in the top five.

And fewer conservatives watched each program (14 percent of each's audience) than any show or outlet tested except MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show."

Of course, just because their audiences skew(ed) so young and liberal doesn't mean they are/were the leading source for young liberals.

But it's pretty evident they are/were up there. A survey for the Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution last year showed 17 percent of liberals said they trusted the "Daily Show" to give them the most accurate information. It ranked behind only the broad category of "broadcast news."

As for young people, the same poll showed 17 percent of 18-to-29-year olds cited the "Daily Show" as the most accurate, behind only CNN. A 2004 Pew poll showed they were already consuming comedy-show news about as much as broadcast news, a 2009 automated Rasmussen poll showed many young people thought programs like the "Daily Show" and the "Report" would replace regular news, and they've only grown in popularity since then.

http://www...g-liberals-get-their-news-now/

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 18:57:09 2020
And speaking as someone who actually watched both Stewart and Colbert nightly for years on ends I think I'm qualified to give an opinion on what their shows were.

If you cant see that both guys were fully taking advantage of their influence and standing (as "legitimate" sources of news) in order to steer their viewers to a certain viewpoint, then you're frankly retarded.

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 18:58:42 2020
Stewart and Colbert organized a political rally in DC for Gods sake. Is that "comedians" normally do?

patom
rank Thu Feb 06 19:06:46 2020
Rugian, never said I was a fan of Colbert. This is the first monologue I have ever seen of his. The simple fact is that he was spot on.

Don't care whether he's a comedian or a pundit. If he is wrong on his assessments then please point out what he is wrong about and put forth an alternative fact to refute what you think is wrong.

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 19:15:00 2020
Patom,

I admit I can't do a good job of refuting Colbert's claims. Mostly because your link leads to a NY Times page that makes no mention of Colbert.

patom
rank Thu Feb 06 19:24:43 2020
It was on a YouTube link or so I thought. Don't know where I fucked up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z3qgRvMHCU

hood
rank Thu Feb 06 19:24:59 2020
Your sandy vagina is leaking again, babe.

Political comedy is still comedy, no matter how influential it may be. There's still a clear distinction between a comedian making political commentary on a program clearly identified as comedy and a news organization supposedly reporting facts.

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 19:39:37 2020
Hood,

Distinction without a difference. Google it.

hood
rank Thu Feb 06 19:47:25 2020
Only in your fantasy world does that distinction not matter.

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 19:59:53 2020
Yeah, you're daft. It's impossible to go into Hannity or Carlson and not know what you're in for. They're there to feed you political opinions for 30-60 minutes, and you're stupid if you expected anything else.

Colbert and Stewart do they exact same thing, except they hide it behind a veneer of jokes and audience reactions.

If anything, Fox is more honest in that they at least label their opinion hosts as opinion.

hood
rank Thu Feb 06 20:04:26 2020
I wonder if there's a specific term for mass shared psychotic disorder? Beyond the obvious one, "Republican," of course.

Rugian
rank Thu Feb 06 20:38:05 2020
TDS

Dukhat
rank Fri Feb 07 06:50:22 2020
You mean the term your borrowed from the Bush Era that noone uses because it reminds everyone of how right all the criticisms of Bush turned out to be and how the criticisms of Trump might be right too?

Please continue using that term dumbass.

smart dude
rank Fri Feb 07 07:47:58 2020
"You cant simultaneously be a critic of Fox News and a fan of Colbert."

What? LOL. No wonder your ex got plowed by some other dude. You're retarded.

patom
rank Fri Feb 07 12:31:36 2020
"You cant simultaneously be a critic of Fox News and a fan of Colbert."

That's sort of like saying on the rare occasion when Trump says something good, I can't agree with him.

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patom rank	Thu Feb 06 18:19:39 2020 In my old age I can never stay awake this late and have honestly never seen this show. I have to admit that this guy nailed it in this monologue: https://ww...check-state-of-the-union-02-04
patom rank	Thu Feb 06 18:20:06 2020 http://www...check-state-of-the-union-02-04
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 18:26:11 2020 Patom, You cant simultaneously be a critic of Fox News and a fan of Colbert. The guy's entire show consists of preaching to the choir on politics every night.
hood rank	Thu Feb 06 18:30:30 2020 What? Colbert is a comedian. FOX is supposed to be unbiasedly delivering news. It's entirely reasonable to find a comedian funny, whether they're biased or not, and be critical of a news organization that presents opinion as fact.
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 18:33:28 2020 "Colbert is a comedian" No. He's a pundit that hides behind comedy. Seriously, did we teleport back to 2008 or something? The Daily Show excuse of "we're not political shills, we're just comedians" is so ancient that I'm flash backing to the GWB years.
hood rank	Thu Feb 06 18:42:50 2020 Your insistence that your illusory alternate reality be accepted as fact is pretty tiring.
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 18:54:43 2020 Hood, I think you need to learn to shut the fuck up when you have no idea what you're talking about. The fact that the Daily Show and its spinoff programs are considered a serious source of influence for the political leanings of younger viewers has only been known since the early 2000s. ---- Jon Stewart is leaving the ‘Daily Show.’ Where will young liberals get their news now? By Aaron Blake Senior reporter February 11, 2015 at 6:30 AM EST Jon Stewart is leaving the "Daily Show" at the end of the year. Stephen Colbert left the "Colbert Report" a few months ago to take over for David Letterman at CBS. And as they head out the door, so do leading news sources for many of the youngest, most liberal Americans. A 2012 poll from the Pew Research Center showed the two Comedy Central shows had some of the most liberal and youngest audiences in the media. While 43 percent of adult "Report" viewers were between 18 and 29 years old, 39 percent of "Daily Show" viewers were. No other program or outlet tested had such a young audience. Similarly, 43 percent of "Daily Show" viewers and 40 percent of "Report" viewers were liberals. Both ranked in the top five. And fewer conservatives watched each program (14 percent of each's audience) than any show or outlet tested except MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show." Of course, just because their audiences skew(ed) so young and liberal doesn't mean they are/were the leading source for young liberals. But it's pretty evident they are/were up there. A survey for the Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution last year showed 17 percent of liberals said they trusted the "Daily Show" to give them the most accurate information. It ranked behind only the broad category of "broadcast news." As for young people, the same poll showed 17 percent of 18-to-29-year olds cited the "Daily Show" as the most accurate, behind only CNN. A 2004 Pew poll showed they were already consuming comedy-show news about as much as broadcast news, a 2009 automated Rasmussen poll showed many young people thought programs like the "Daily Show" and the "Report" would replace regular news, and they've only grown in popularity since then. http://www...g-liberals-get-their-news-now/
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 18:57:09 2020 And speaking as someone who actually watched both Stewart and Colbert nightly for years on ends I think I'm qualified to give an opinion on what their shows were. If you cant see that both guys were fully taking advantage of their influence and standing (as "legitimate" sources of news) in order to steer their viewers to a certain viewpoint, then you're frankly retarded.
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 18:58:42 2020 Stewart and Colbert organized a political rally in DC for Gods sake. Is that "comedians" normally do?
patom rank	Thu Feb 06 19:06:46 2020 Rugian, never said I was a fan of Colbert. This is the first monologue I have ever seen of his. The simple fact is that he was spot on. Don't care whether he's a comedian or a pundit. If he is wrong on his assessments then please point out what he is wrong about and put forth an alternative fact to refute what you think is wrong.
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 19:15:00 2020 Patom, I admit I can't do a good job of refuting Colbert's claims. Mostly because your link leads to a NY Times page that makes no mention of Colbert.
patom rank	Thu Feb 06 19:24:43 2020 It was on a YouTube link or so I thought. Don't know where I fucked up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z3qgRvMHCU
hood rank	Thu Feb 06 19:24:59 2020 Your sandy vagina is leaking again, babe. Political comedy is still comedy, no matter how influential it may be. There's still a clear distinction between a comedian making political commentary on a program clearly identified as comedy and a news organization supposedly reporting facts.
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 19:39:37 2020 Hood, Distinction without a difference. Google it.
hood rank	Thu Feb 06 19:47:25 2020 Only in your fantasy world does that distinction not matter.
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 19:59:53 2020 Yeah, you're daft. It's impossible to go into Hannity or Carlson and not know what you're in for. They're there to feed you political opinions for 30-60 minutes, and you're stupid if you expected anything else. Colbert and Stewart do they exact same thing, except they hide it behind a veneer of jokes and audience reactions. If anything, Fox is more honest in that they at least label their opinion hosts as opinion.
hood rank	Thu Feb 06 20:04:26 2020 I wonder if there's a specific term for mass shared psychotic disorder? Beyond the obvious one, "Republican," of course.
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 06 20:38:05 2020 TDS
Dukhat rank	Fri Feb 07 06:50:22 2020 You mean the term your borrowed from the Bush Era that noone uses because it reminds everyone of how right all the criticisms of Bush turned out to be and how the criticisms of Trump might be right too? Please continue using that term dumbass.
smart dude rank	Fri Feb 07 07:47:58 2020 "You cant simultaneously be a critic of Fox News and a fan of Colbert." What? LOL. No wonder your ex got plowed by some other dude. You're retarded.
patom rank	Fri Feb 07 12:31:36 2020 "You cant simultaneously be a critic of Fox News and a fan of Colbert." That's sort of like saying on the rare occasion when Trump says something good, I can't agree with him.
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