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Daemon Member	Fri Jul 20 15:50:25 http://www...-morning-britain-a7652981.html Sex Pistols' John Lydon comes out in support of Trump, Brexit and Nigel Farage 'The working class have spoke and I’m one of them and I’m with them,' he says, on leaving the EU Tom Batchelor @_tombatchelor Monday 27 March 2017 Former Sex Pistols frontman John Lydon has revealed himself to be a supporter of Brexit and defender of Donald Trump, saying the US President was definitely not racist and could even be a “possible friend”. The man known by his former stage name Johnny Rotten, who once wrote the now aptly-named ‘Anarchy in the UK’, also described Nigel Farage as “fantastic”. “Where do I stand on Brexit?” he asked during an appearance on ITV’s Good Morning Britain. “Well, here it goes, the working class have spoke and I’m one of them and I’m with them.” On Mr Trump, the 61-year-old singer said he was a “complicated fellow” who had been “smeared” by the “left-wing media”. “One journalist once said to me, is he the political Sex Pistol? In a way. “What I dislike is the left-wing media in America are trying to smear the bloke as a racist and that’s completely not true. “There are many, many problems with him as a human being but he’s not that and there just might be a chance something good will come out of that situation because he terrifies politicians. “This is a joy to behold for me. Dare I say, [he could be] a possible friend.” Lydon was correct to link class to the Brexit vote, as research conducted after the June referendum found areas with higher levels of people from the DE social class also recorded higher ‘Leave’ votes. Only three of the top 50 areas with the highest share of people from DE class backgrounds – which includes semi-skilled or unskilled labour and pensioners - voted to Remain. Mr Farage caught the attention of Lydon after a stunt on the River Thames involving Bob Geldof, the former Ukip leader and a ‘Brexit flotilla’ comprising 60 vessels. Mr Geldof and Mr Farage, who took to the water in separate boats and on opposite sides of the Brexit debate, clashed during the ‘battle for the Thames’, exchanging insults in what were the closing stages of the EU referendum campaign. Lydon said: “After that up-the-River-Thames argument he had with Bob Geldof I wanted to shake his [Mr Farage’s] hand because it was silly beyond belief.”
Daemon Member	Fri Jul 20 15:51:18 The Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The U.K (official video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBojbjoMttI
Daemon Member	Fri Jul 20 15:53:18 Oh this is old news, didn't notice the date :-/
Paramount Member	Sat Jul 21 12:52:57 I thought these punk rockers were leftists. Or at the least anti-capitalists.
smart dude Member	Sat Jul 21 13:24:42 Lydon has always been complicated, and he's both defended and criticized Trump in the past. These "punk rockers" tend to lean to the left, but they also pride themselves on non-conformity and aren't going to blindly follow some ideological "checklist."
murder Member	Sat Jul 21 15:25:02 "I thought these punk rockers were ..." Failed pop stars. Lydon is like Billy Idol's less successful cousin.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sat Jul 21 15:46:30 Sat Jul 21 12:52:57 I thought these punk rockers were leftists. Or at the least anti-capitalist.' Depends. Some punk rockers are facist neo-nazis
jergul large member	Sat Jul 21 17:54:01 Para Left-wingers likely gave Trump the presidency to punish the DNC over Sanders. In a more general sense, the disenfranchised often have a nihilistic streak. Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Daemon Member	Sat Jul 21 17:58:52 "I thought these punk rockers were leftists." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Ramone#Politicss Johnny was known within the punk rock community as one of its few conservatives, and was a staunch supporter of the Republican Party. He made his political affiliation known to the world in 2002 when the Ramones were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. After thanking all who made the honor possible—clad in his trademark T-shirt, ripped blue jeans and leather jacket—he said "God bless President Bush, and God bless America".[29] He said in an interview, when questioned on his conservatism, "I think Ronald Reagan was the best President of my lifetime." This was evident when the band released the UK single "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" in 1985; Johnny pressed for a name change, finding the title insulting to Reagan, and the song was retitled on American releases as "My Brain Is Hanging Upside Down (Bonzo Goes to Bitburg)" after a line from the song's chorus. In this same interview he claimed that "Punk is right wing".[30] Johnny is quoted by The Observer as saying: "People drift towards liberalism at a young age, and I always hope they change when they see how the world really is."
Paramount Member	Sat Jul 21 18:42:21 I’m glad that I don’t own any of Sex Pistol’s or Ramones records. I don’t think I know any of their songs actually. Except maybe Anarchy in the UK. Was that Sex Pistol? A horrible tune.
Daemon Member	Sun Jul 22 04:30:58 Para you must listen to this song when Jewish frontman Joey Ramone sings "I'm a Nazi schatzie", but don't get a heart attack! Today Your Love Tomorrow The World http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_S6g4K_adk
Paramount Member	Mon Jul 23 09:28:59 I don’t know what a schatzie is, but a jew singing that he is a nazi and at the end the (german) audience is applauding? Not sure if this is antisemtism, but they are like glorifying Nazism, right? This video and The Ramones should be reported to the ADL and Youtube’s Abuse Department.
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