Utopia Talk / Politics / Fl school shooting

Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 14:49:34 Sounds like a bad one
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Feb 14 14:52:09 i'll go with a white male, 15, named Doug
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 14:52:43 1 Dead at least 20 hurt. The suspect may be in custody.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 14:55:23 I'll go with your standup comedienne grandma. I guess that is where you learned to make fun of tragedies.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 14:57:15 The Senator from Florida told Peter Doucy that many people were killed. Not confirmed yet.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 15:01:14 They just loaded someone int a cop car.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 15:01:39 *-into
Memory Lane Member	Wed Feb 14 15:11:25 I remember many instances of hot rod making fun of tragedies. I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 15:14:53 No you don't, liar.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 15:15:40 Execute the parents.
Memory Lane Member	Wed Feb 14 15:16:10 Oh I definitely do. I drink and remember things.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Wed Feb 14 15:16:58 Wow they captured this asshole alive.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 15:19:22 Looks like it. Should execute him though.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 15:19:38 And his family.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 15:20:19 The school superintendent is on camera now saying there are numerous fatalities.
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 14 15:31:08 "Even a google search does not reveal he was a white male named Dough (and you know CNN would be all over it if he was). tw doubled down on stupid again." -reverse Cuckhat
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Wed Feb 14 15:45:28 Well since they captured him alive I doubt he was black or hispanic?
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 14 15:48:43 'Murica, fuck yeah?
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 15:51:13 About 7 dead 14 injured.
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 14 15:54:54 "Parkland, Florida According to a 2008 estimate, the median income for a household in the city was $277,072, and the estimated median house value was $973,176." Shit, some people of actual value may have been taken out.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 15:57:08 Ya, sounds like a nice upper middle class kindof town. Although it is florida, so you have to knock down the expected value for that.
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 14 16:02:13 Good point, this is FL were talking about. Anyway, I'm guessing illegal Muslim immigrant.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 16:05:24 This sounds like a classic angry depressed white dude. Cant win em all. Oh well. Our crime rate is still 1/10th that of sebs people, but eventually that 1 comes up.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 16:11:16 "Nicholas cruz" Pretty normal name. Had a history of threats and was banned from school, but of course, nothing was actually done. Maybe the administrators and bereaucrats should be executed too.
obaminated Member	Wed Feb 14 16:11:42 He was on syrian forums. A fucking muslim did this.
obaminated Member	Wed Feb 14 16:19:24 Up to 50 shot. Fuck it. Ban guns
Dukhat Member	Wed Feb 14 16:59:56 Forwyn being a retard again. Tumbleweed is speaking with obvious irony given his post history. Versus you cuckservatives who often state opinions as facts. At the time, it was not known whether that guy was an illegal which was the only point I made him. Him finally being reported legitimately as one later doesn't change anything. A loose grasp of facts won't save you in court as Trump is about to find out when Mueller convicts him for obstruction of justice later this year.
Dukhat Member	Wed Feb 14 17:01:31 As for the original comment, Democrats might be better served waiting until they control re-districting in 2020 before implementing some kind of gun control laws. And unlike the apocalyptic conservatives, no it will not be a gun seizure. It'll probably be something along the lines of Australia's laws which include gun buybacks and registration of guns and bullets. You register your fucking car already. You can register your fucking guns you retard.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 14 17:10:44 I'm sure we can all agree that this would not have happened if all students and teachers were armed with Uzis. Preferably two or maybe even three, right?
obaminated Member	Wed Feb 14 17:14:33 At least 16 dead. Over fucking nothing.
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 14 17:15:24 "You register your fucking car already. You can register your fucking guns you retard." Cars don't exist to protect against government tyranny you retard. Also, you were never a conservative or a Republican, 100% of the horseshit you've ranted about on here is typical lefty shit.
obaminated Member	Wed Feb 14 17:29:28 Lets stop
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 14 17:36:59 He started it!
Sam Adams Member	Wed Feb 14 17:37:41 Cuckhat you are litterally always wrong.
patom Member	Wed Feb 14 18:49:01 Time to buy stock in gun companies.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Feb 14 19:02:28 here's some video from inside during incident http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ff_1518644376
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Feb 14 19:34:49 "Cars don't exist to protect against government tyranny " Sure they do. You can use one to ride over dozens of government supporters, or fill one with explosives and murder hundreds of government lovers. I think you meant that guns don't serve any other purpose besides killing, while cars do. But you can use both very effectively to slaughter tyranny supporters
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 20:25:56 I think there are close to 200,000,000 guns in America owned by over 100,000,000 honest hardworking Americans. If they were a problem, you would know it. I cannot think of a single valid reason to register their guns. Registration certainly would not have prevented what happened today.
Hrothgar Member	Wed Feb 14 20:37:34 It's horrible watching that video. The sounds... ugh disturbing. America just needs to admit we are a violent warrior culture willing to kill and die at all levels of society and get on with it. Stop all the hand wrangling about 'doing something about it' without any intent to do so.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 20:44:48 You may be right but ask yourself, when was the last time you heard of a mass killing at a shooting range? The only thing that will even come close to slowing down these shootings is to do away with gun free zones.
smart dude Member	Wed Feb 14 20:56:51 If there were fewer schools, there would be fewer school shootings. Ban schools.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Feb 14 21:40:37 there aren't mass shootings at shooting ranges as it's not where you'd find a large crowd... plus they are usually personal (own school or workplace)
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 21:46:24 Plus there are a lot of folks there that have guns.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Feb 14 21:59:11 i would bet my life no shooter was thinking of targets, considered a shooting range, then rejected it because there might be armed people there also... this school HAD security guards, so we can rule out level of resistance as being what made this the target of selection in this case for certain we'll see if the Monday-morning-QB child has the balls to stick to his 'we need more bullets flying the other way' solution now that he is president
Y2A Member	Wed Feb 14 22:17:28 http://amp...ed-parkland-high-school-gunman "A family friend, who did not want to give her name, said that Cruz and his younger brother Zachary were adopted by Roger and Lynda Cruz as newborns. Roger Cruz died when Nikolas was 6-years-old while Lynda Cruz passed away in November."
Asgard Member	Wed Feb 14 22:33:35 Still More sane than Ted Cruz
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 22:35:07 The point is, no one would even think of shooting up a shooting range because there are too many guns there. Just like shooters might think twice about shooting up a school if there were more guns at the schools. I think this school only had one cop and it was a very large campus.
Asgard Member	Wed Feb 14 22:36:41 Hi, stump Rod - gubs didnt stop Marins from doing mass shootings at military installations.... did they??
Asgard Member	Wed Feb 14 22:36:53 Guns*
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 22:43:38 Weapons are not carried around the base with the men carrying ammo too. They are only issued ammo at the range. The only exception that I can think of are MP's.
Hrothgar Member	Wed Feb 14 22:50:30 Yeah, so they take guns away from the Marines on base to keep violence from happening, leaving only the police armed. So self owned it's hilarious. If only it wasn't such a serious subject.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 14 22:57:02 They use their weapons for drill and hikes and stuff, but the only time they are issued ammo is at the firing range. Unless things have changed in the last 60 years. We didn't even keep our rifles in the barracks. We had a special room for them.
Forwyn Member	Wed Feb 14 23:47:42 "Hi, stump Rod - gubs didnt stop Marins from doing mass shootings at military installations.... did they??" "Gubs" have been all but banned on domestic bases since 1992. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf
Asgard Member	Thu Feb 15 00:12:34 mission accomplished, HR imploded.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Feb 15 02:41:47 [Hrothgar]: "Yeah, so they take guns away from the Marines on base to keep violence from happening, leaving only the police armed." You clearly have no clue about gun control procedure on military bases. And as far as "self [owning]" goes, it might interest you to know that the DoD has published guidance allowing military personnel to carry personal firearms on base as a response to these sorts of "active shooter" situations. http://www...onnel-carry-firearms-base.html
Paramount Member	Thu Feb 15 03:10:09 Buy more guns and carry on!
American Democrat Member	Thu Feb 15 05:19:34 "The point is, no one would even think of shooting up a shooting range because there are too many guns there. Just like shooters might think twice about shooting up a school if there were more guns at the schools. I think this school only had one cop and it was a very large campus. " Logic fails on all levels. Because the motive for the shooter is to kill as many as they can in a cattle shoot like scenario. More guns at schools is not a deterrent. A shooting range is not ideal for someone that wants to commit that type of act. Not because of them having more guns or a ratio. But the ease of access too targets. ie. malls, schools, movie theaters. Stop being obtuse.
patom Member	Thu Feb 15 05:41:01 My imagination is running rampant. I can picture it now when some moron kid lights off some fire crackers in the school cafeteria and all the students start pulling their newly acquired sided arms out. Pointing them in the direction of the noise. Seeing someone else with a gun and shooting that person thinking they are a hero. In the meantime someone else sees them shooting and assumes they are the shooter etc. etc. etc.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 05:57:06 My point was really a simple one. If a target had guns or the possibility of guns, the shooters would be less likely to go after that target. I thought I was being obvious.
American Democrat Member	Thu Feb 15 05:57:51 "If a target had guns or the possibility of guns, the shooters would be less likely to go after that target. I thought I was being obvious. " So students should have guns?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 06:05:32 No, but teachers should. College is different, the students are older and might be allowed, I haven't thought much about college. Perhaps students that are taking ROTC might be allowed. They would be seen daily by military personnel that could be trained to know what to look for in a possible shooter. All I know is I would rather have someone shooting back than be hiding in a closet.
hood Member	Thu Feb 15 07:25:32 "I haven't thought much about college." On any level. In fact, you just don't think much.
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Feb 15 08:05:01 This killer should be deported
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 08:05:21 While all you think about is insults. That one is about 1/4 above your usual malarky. But I do notice that you have no response to my posts.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Feb 15 08:13:24 Because its stupid?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 08:41:38 Then show me something that is not stupid. If you can? Can you?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 08:44:22 cr, BTW, your English is stupid too. And the answer to your question is, no.
patom Member	Thu Feb 15 10:42:13 Oh well, we can all dance around the subject all we want. That is all that we will do. Dance. Everyone has heard all the speeches repeatedly by all our politicians. They won't change and nothing of substance will be done. Nobody is going to reopen the mental hospitals nor attempt to pay for more psychiatric workers. Congress and the President may talk about it but lets face the facts. NOTHING will be done. We live in a world now that most kids are desensitized to gun violence and have never felt pain of any amount for longer than it takes someone to hand them a percocet or oxycontin. There hasn't been a breakthrough in treatment or therapy for psychiatric patients in god knows how long. Nobody enters the field because of the shakiness of the future for mental health. State and local governments are still trying to eliminate what few psych beds remain. You can bet your paycheck that this Congress and President will do nothing but give lip service regarding mental health
Cold Rod Member	Thu Feb 15 12:52:13 "cr, BTW, your English is stupid too." It isn't my fault you have an 8th grade education.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 13:15:49 Jesus, can this guy get any stupider? We know that he only deals in bull shit because of his lack of an intelligent response to my posts. He had none.
Dukhat Member	Thu Feb 15 14:54:02 Mental health is just the red herring that retarded cuckservatives throw into the conversation to distract from real solutions. Retarded and mentally ill people will always exist. But in places like Europe, most can only have access to a knife or bat while in America they can walk in and buy an AR-15 and kill dozens if not hundreds of people. For example Obaminated who pretended he cared about mental health issues because he had just read it on Breitbart. Yeah you care about it so much. That's why you never volunteer at hospitals or clinics or donate money and vote for retards who basically defund any and all public health programs. The cuckservative movement of helpless white guys always talk macho but in reality never ever do anything to help themselves or others. But that will change soon enough. A whole generation is sick of Republicans now. The GOP may seem strong but this is their (and by extension Rugian and Obaminated and the other fucking idiots on this board) last hurrah.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Feb 15 14:59:55 "Retarded and mentally ill people will always exist. But in places like Europe, most can only have access to a knife or bat while in America they can walk in and buy an AR-15 and kill dozens if not hundreds of people. " Cickhat the dumbass forgot that in europe they are going to crash cars and planes and kill just as many people.
Rugian Member	Thu Feb 15 15:09:45 Dukhat the dumbass also forgot that even if you did somehow ban AR-15s and even if you did somehow seize them from the millions of households that own them, there's literally hundreds of other rifles out there that can get the job done. The way pussy libtards like Dukhat prattle on, you'd think the ability to shoot up a school didn't exist until 1970. what a fool.
hood Member	Thu Feb 15 15:21:07 FYI, some dumbass Republicans just blamed video games, citing them as the same terrible scourge upon society as porn, for this event.
Rugian Member	Thu Feb 15 15:22:59 And you know that no level of gun control will ever be sufficient for leftwing faggots like Dukhat. When some loser teenager murders ten of his classmates with a Remington 700 some time in 2045, you think those pansies are going to say "Well, we banned ARs and pistols in 2030 and killed everyone who refused to hand their guns in, so we don't see any need to pass additional gun control in light of this tragedy"? No, there will be calls to ban Remingtons as well. it'll be a constant race to the bottom, until you can't even lawfully own a flintlock musket. Fuck gun-hating nannies like Dukhat.
American Democrat Member	Thu Feb 15 15:27:16 "Mental health is just the red herring that retarded cuckservatives throw into the conversation to distract from real solutions. " Actually, they usually never considered it. In fact you didn't see more of it mentioned by the republican/conservative crowd until in recent years. They are also the same ones that dramatically cut funding to help address the issues regarding mental health.
RugianLovesTheCock Member	Thu Feb 15 15:33:06 Rugian is upset again
Sam Adams Member	Thu Feb 15 15:36:04 " some dumbass Republicans just blamed video games, citing them as the same terrible scourge upon society as porn" Well they are as fucking useless as duckhat then.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Feb 15 15:36:44 "Jesus, can this guy get any stupider? We know that he only deals in bull shit because of his lack of an intelligent response to my posts. He had none." Hot Rod stated he has only an 8th education.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 15:50:07 Actually, I got my GED and studied for a year at The Univerity of Hawaii. But then you hate facts, don't you? Don't you?
Memory Lane Member	Thu Feb 15 15:50:31 ""Jesus, can this guy get any stupider? We know that he only deals in bull shit because of his lack of an intelligent response to my posts. " Example of hot rod's intelligence levels: "Separation of church and state is different from separation between church and state. " -Hot Rod "Because dinosaurs are reptiles, dinosaurs are still alive" -Hot Rod "Boycotting someone is a violation of that person's 1st Amendment rights. " -Hot Rod "Because Alaska produced 14.3 percent of all the oil from US and produced 2.4 percent of all BTUs the US consumes, it must mean that Alaska produced 16.7% of all the oil and gas in the US" -Hot Rod "News scrollers aren't news. they are opinion talk shows." -Hot Rod "Sharia Law Followed By US Court " -Hot Rod "A discount can be as high as 1000%" -Hot Rod He furthers it by this; Hot Rod Member Sat Sep 25 12:54:07 $500 vs $50. Nekran Member Sat Sep 25 12:58:44 That's a 90% discount, HR. Hot Rod Member Sat Sep 25 13:20:09 100% of $50 = $50 x 10 = $500 = 1000%. I drink and remember how hot rod is pretty stupid.
Dukhat Member	Thu Feb 15 15:50:47 Rugian is the most histrionic poster on this board. Well, to be fair, Nimatzo is more unintelligible during one of his drug-induced rants. White Lives Matters is sadder than Black Lives matter. These retards basically controlled congress and the presidency for most of the last 30 years and they act like they are somehow the victim. You're a special kind of retard when you think that reasonable gun control laws are the equivalent of a police state. You're an even bigger retard to waste your time obsessing over the issue while the people you elect fleece you blind with wars and tax cuts for the rich.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 15:51:29 *-University of Hawaii
Cold Rod Member	Thu Feb 15 15:51:37 " Actually, I got my GED and studied for a year at The Univerity of Hawaii. But then you hate facts, don't you? Don't you?" Hot Rod admits he had an 8th grade education and dropped out.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Feb 15 15:52:13 LOL@memory lane Hot rod is dumb.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 16:19:34 So, why can't cr create a response to my posts? Is it because he is stupid and, therefore, incapable of forming an intelligent response? Is he?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 16:27:05 And you Sir, have proven your stupidity. Thank you for your clarification of that fundamental point. It helps others to understand what I have to deal with when you make a post concerning my veracity.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Feb 15 16:56:03 "1000% discount" -hot rod LOL!
hood Member	Thu Feb 15 16:57:09 "Well they are as fucking useless as duckhat then." I don't think anyone was arguing that dukhat was useful though. I was just pointing out that the inevitable blame game had begun, and it had gone back to video games.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 17:08:22 I have never claimed or implied to be perfect, have you? Have you?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Feb 15 17:24:46 You see, I'm the side of the coin that is Hot and burning up with ideas and, therefore, I post on a number of subjects. Sometimes I'm wrong, but more often I'm correct. While cold rod is just that, cold. He is all hunkered up at the bottom of a cesspool trying to get warm by covering himself with a too thin blanket. That's why he is incapable of posting a response to my post.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Feb 15 17:30:23 You have nothing to respond to that holds any substance. Only you furthering on how fucking unbelievably dumb you are. Hence why I continue to mock you. lol "1000% discount." LOL
Renzo Marquez Member	Thu Feb 15 18:18:45 http://twitter.com/HeteroBeardson/status/964249401874055168
Y2A Member	Thu Feb 15 19:13:17 Nicky was also an alt right skinhead in addition to being mentally deranged. Same thing I guess. http://abc...s-a-white-nationalist/3084859/
Renzo Marquez Member	Thu Feb 15 19:33:16 LOL. Alvaro falls for 4chan memes.
Renzo Marquez Member	Thu Feb 15 19:34:40 Next, Dirty Sanchez will tell us Sam Hyde, a Spetsnaz-trained NAZI, was a second shooter.
Senor Marquez Member	Thu Feb 15 19:35:12 (((lawyer)))
Y2A Member	Thu Feb 15 19:43:03 Alt right leader that helped train him http://youtu.be/vHjaFAEGPlY
Renzo Marquez Member	Thu Feb 15 19:47:25 LOL
Renzo Marquez Member	Thu Feb 15 19:47:52 You buy his bullshit Rodrigo?
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