Utopia Talk / Politics / Why do Republicans suddenly hate college

Dukhat Member	Sun Nov 19 14:00:28 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/why-do-republicans-suddenly-hate-colleges-so-much/533130/ Why Do Republicans Suddenly Hate College So Much? Whether it’s safe spaces and free-speech issues or Trump’s lack of interest in higher education, the ramifications for the nation’s economy and schools could be serious. "So if “safe spaces” account for only some of the shift, what else might be at work? One theory that seems to make a lot of sense is that the composition of the Republican/Republican-leaning demographic has shifted. (For simplicity, let’s just call them the Republicans from here on out. Pollsters and political scientists have long ago shown that while a growing number of Americans identify as independents, most of them vote pretty consistently for one party or the other.) "... Trump didn’t bother to make the case for retraining or education; he simply promised dispossessed blue-collar workers that their jobs in mills, factories, and especially coal mines were going to come back." "Meanwhile, college is becoming increasingly expensive and therefore out of reach, even at the public universities that have historically been a boon to lower-income citizens. While college enrollment jumped during the recession, as people sought shelter from a poor jobs market, graduation rates fell. And since then, enrollment has fallen, too, especially for lower-income students. A PRRI/The Atlantic poll found that 54 percent of white working-class voters now consider college more “a gamble that may not pay off” than “a smart investment in the future”; those who viewed it as a gamble were almost twice as likely to back Trump as those who disagreed." Party of stupid and evil all in one.
Pillz Member	Sun Nov 19 14:20:15 Your average mill worker > average gender studies major
Rugian Member	Sun Nov 19 14:58:22 Gee, I can't possibly imagine why conservatives might sneer at colleges lately. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsgc0k594Js Yeah, it's a total mystery. What could even cause such a ridiculous trend in the first place? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1agIlLlhg It's just...such a weird trend, you know? What makes colleges such an object of derision and mockery? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRlRAyulN4o Is it because of fake news? It must be because of fake news. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEGfxrYP-MQ Oh maybe it's because conservatives are just being completely unreasonable about the subject? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q6W4nbVmiM Could it be that conservatives just hate people having access to higher education? http://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2017/09/18/views-among-college-students-regarding-the-first-amendment-results-from-a-new-survey/ Could it be that they hate anyone who holds different political beliefs from themselves? http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/07/28/ucla-professor-fired-conservatism In sum, I just can't see any logical reason for conservatives to dislike modern American universities, which are famous for being free speech havens and centers of ideological diversity. http://econjwatch.org/articles/faculty-voter-registration-in-economics-history-journalism-communications-law-and-psychology ---- Fuck university. Ignoring the fact that the entire system is a scam to make you pay hundreds of thousands of dollars on an education that is often of at least questionable necessity in the grand scheme of things, the modern-day university is simply a tool for ultra-liberal assholes to spread their subversive ideology and radicalizing naive teenagers. If Republicans had any balls at all, they'd realize that public universities are actively and openly one of their greatest enemies in modern society and de-fund them immediately.
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hood Member	Sun Nov 19 15:17:17 "the modern-day university is simply a tool for ultra-liberal assholes to spread their subversive ideology and radicalizing naive teenagers." Get rid of stupid degrees, don't get rid of education. "If Republicans had any balls at all, they'd realize that public universities are actively and openly one of their greatest enemies in modern society and de-fund them immediately." Intelligence and education is one of the greatest enemies of the republican party? Maybe you shouldn't be a party of dumb fucks doing stupid shit to ruin things for everyone.
Rugian Member	Sun Nov 19 15:18:21 Education or indoctrination? The difference is so subtle sometimes.
jergul large member	Sun Nov 19 15:30:07 Its only subtle if people are being indoctrinated against stupid. Have you checked lately to see who is your president? Moar edcatun. So peeps can be smert.
jergul large member	Sun Nov 19 15:31:05 Ruggy Education levels are ok when people start voting in their own best interests. Sort of a lithmus test, that.
Trolly Member	Sun Nov 19 15:42:37 "If Republicans had any balls at all, they'd realize that public universities are actively and openly one of their greatest enemies in modern society and de-fund them immediately." Make sense, Pussgian is from Alabama.
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Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 19 20:09:36 "Why do Republicans suddenly hate college" Why? I will tell you. When college students riot when a conservative speaker is ***INVITED*** to speak is one reason. Another reason is when students require therapy when the see Trumps name scrawled on the sidewalk in chalk. It is crap like this that is force-fed to students by socialist and communist professors that is making a bunch of wimps out of the kids. Do you liberals that are not totally over the edge yet really want your families to grow up in a society led by those kids? I don't have many more years left, but you guys sure do.
delude Member	Sun Nov 19 20:36:58 "When college students riot when a conservative speaker is ***INVITED*** to speak is one reason. " What riot are you speaking of? "Another reason is when students require therapy when the see Trumps name scrawled on the sidewalk in chalk." The one incident that occurred at a university used to incite a reaction and target a specific group of the student body. "It is crap like this that is force-fed to students by socialist and communist professors that is making a bunch of wimps out of the kids. " Or the retardation of voters that are uneducated and easily influenced by Russian propaganda supported and funded by Trump campaign and organization. That now support any politician that supports Trump to forgo principles, ethics, and morality, because they need a supporter for Trump's agenda, despite the fact they abuse, sexually harassed, or go for those who are underage. "Do you liberals that are not totally over the edge yet really want your families to grow up in a society led by those kids?" Look who is president.... "'I don't have many more years left, but you guys sure do." Hopefully days...
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 19 20:42:22 ^^^^^- a cowardly multi speaks.
delude Member	Sun Nov 19 20:44:46 I'm a multi? I've been around for many many years. So I am a multi because your bullshit is called out? Shut up, pedo.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 19 20:47:30 You are a multi because I keep making a fool of you.
delude Member	Sun Nov 19 20:50:37 This doesn't any sense whatsoever. And, on the history of UP, I can safely say you have never made a fool of anyone.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 20:52:34 I remember many occurrences that Hot Rod was made a fool of. I drink and remember things.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 20:58:11 " Boycotting someone is a violation of that person's 1st Amendment rights. " -Hot Rod I drink and remember things.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:00:36 "News scrollers aren't news. they are opinion talk shows." -Hot Rod I drink and remember things.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:01:00 "Renzo, your little niece is the best little knob polisher in my entire stable. " -Hot Rod I drink and remember things.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:01:37 "BTW, I will vote Libertarian regardless who The dems or repubs nominate" "I have admitted that I voted McCain" -Hot Rod I drink and remember things.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:02:14 "Wed Sep 22 14:05:22 Hot Rod Jun 18th, 2008 1:56 PM I will tell lies about the democrats because I think they are more dangerous than the republicans. " I drink and remember things.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:03:18 "You are a chickenshit if you create multis " -Hot Rod while using his various other accounts. I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 19 21:03:51 Rioting to shut down a speakers right to speak is a violation of the speakers right to speak when they have been invited. Get it right if you are trying to quote me.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:04:46 You can discount an item by 1000%, yes? Hot Rod Member Sat Sep 25 12:54:07 $500 vs $50. Nekran Member Sat Sep 25 12:58:44 That's a 90% discount, HR. Hot Rod Member Sat Sep 25 13:20:09 100% of $50 = $50 x 10 = $500 = 1000%. --------------------------------------- I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 19 21:08:18 As usual, no link.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:08:32 "Rugian, you are just as big a pig as AH and mf and renzo. You can't discuss rationally and reasonably so you have to attack my deceased mother. That might make you BMOC among the low breeds on this forum, but it SHOUTS FROM THE ROOFTOPS the kind of thing you are. You Sainted Mother is probably turning over in her grave so she doesn't have to look at you anymore. So pissoff. " -Hot Rod I drink and remember things.
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:10:54 "As usual, no link. " I remember when hot rod accused others of not having any source, but didn't provide many of his own. I drink and remember things. A little assistance, UPA.
The UP Archivist Member	Sun Nov 19 21:11:36 http://www...hread=38605&time=1285114229126
Memory Lane Member	Sun Nov 19 21:15:50 I remember when hot rod was shown what a poor character he really has. I drink and remember things.
Cold Rod Member	Sun Nov 19 21:25:16 Lol, hot rod cowers.
delude Member	Sun Nov 19 21:50:41 Well that escalated quickly.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Nov 20 09:04:47 There is no sense trying to carry on an intelligent conversation with a liar. He never gives a link, so he is obviously lying.
Delude Member	Mon Nov 20 11:18:41 You do see there is a link provided, yes?
Memory Lane Member	Mon Nov 20 11:39:50 I remember a time when hot rod never provided links to anything said. I also remember the link was provided by our friendly Archivist. I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Nov 20 17:20:55 The link proves nothing.
Memory Lane Member	Mon Nov 20 17:28:52 I remember when hot rod lived in a constant state of denial. I drink and remember things.
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