Utopia Talk / Politics / Traitor/puppet Trump strikes again

tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 11 22:13:38 for a 2nd time on the world stage Trump publicly sides with Putin over our entire Intelligence community "Every time he sees me he says, 'I didn't do that,' and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it. But he says, 'I didn't do that.' I think he is very insulted by it, which is not a good thing for our country" http://www...didnt-meddle-in-elections.html (note that's Fox News to satisfy the stupid gullible idiots amongst us...)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 11 22:14:07 we also have the childish idiot trying out his comedy routine or something... "Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!" http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/929511061954297857
werewolf dictator Member	Sat Nov 11 22:57:53 is "entire Intelligence community" now code for two dozen people from 3 [not 17] agencies who anti-russian clapper called hand-picked.. and who were either denied access or couldn't be bothered to look at dnc servers or podesta phone in their "investigation"
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 11 23:08:59 they still stand by it after all this time & investigating which goes well beyond the DNC server (and as noted before, many agencies have no business investigating election interference, so it not being all 17 doesn't mean there's any disagreement)... vs. the idiot-in-chief who is going only on the word of Putin & his own desire for his election win (that he must brag about at all opportunities) to have no taint... beyond his massive historic loss in the popular vote
Paramount Member	Sun Nov 12 02:27:54 Trump says now that he agrees with the CIA that Russia tried to influence the election. But he is also saying that he believes that Putin is telling the truth when he says that Russia had nothing to do with it. So Trump is trying to stay on good foot with everyone.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 12 06:21:53 He clarified his position last night. He believes that Putin believes it when he says Russia had nothing to do with our election. But Trump says he stands with our Intel groups. Do try to keep up.
patom Member	Sun Nov 12 06:27:32 Meanwhile back in the States............... http://www...raud-commission-dunlap-lawsuit
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 12 06:34:52 So why is he being excluded, this is only one side of the story. And what about the rest of the Dems?
patom Member	Sun Nov 12 06:40:32 That is a pretty obvious question. I guess it won't be answered until the suit goes to court. What's your theory?
The Sentinal Member	Sun Nov 12 08:10:32 Too many traitors in the midst, including Trump.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 12 09:03:01 If it's true then he may be a jerk that keeps setting up roadblocks.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 09:34:17 "He clarified his position last night." he "clarified" after a day of terrible press... his typical pattern... there will still never be nothing but defense for Putin in his tweets or off-prompter comments, and his 'clarified' position is idiotic as well
American Democrat Member	Sun Nov 12 09:44:07 Then he will turn around again and them repeated how he believes everything that Putin tells him. He is being controlled by PUtin, either unaware or fully aware of the manipulation.
Paramount Member	Sun Nov 12 10:13:49 "He clarified his position last night." Yeah he clarified that he does not want to pick a side. Between America and Russia, he can’t pick :)
Rugian Member	Sun Nov 12 10:14:41 Donald J. Trump ‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen! 4:48 PM - 11 Nov 2017 from Vietnam 184,454 Retweets 390,649 Likes http://twi...status/929511061954297857?s=09 This guy puts most professional comedians to shame. I love this man.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 12 10:31:25 tw - he "clarified" after a day of terrible press... You do realize that while the bad press is happening here, it is the middle of the night, tomorrow morning, over there, don't you? tw - there will still never be nothing but defense for Putin in his tweets or off-prompter comments... What would rather have: 1) A working semi-friendly relationship with Putin or 2) Another 40 years of Cold War where hundreds of Billions are wasted on armaments instead of infrastructure?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 10:33:25 “When we can save many, many, many lives by making a deal with Russia having to do with Syria, and then ultimately getting Syria solved, and getting Ukraine solved, and doing other things, having a good relationship with Russia is a great, great thing. And this artificial Democratic hit job gets in the way. It gets in the way. And that’s a shame. Because people will die because of it, and it’s a pure hit job, and it’s artificially induced and that’s shame.” http://www...to-syria-conflict-kremlin-says the mental midget can't separate the collusion investigation from Russian interference plus his 100% devotion to Putin is disturbing & weird
American Democrat Member	Sun Nov 12 10:34:15 "2) Another 40 years of Cold War where hundreds of Billions are wasted on armaments instead of infrastructure? " I guess that is why he bragged about the deal he made with Japan and SK that benefits the defense contractors?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 10:36:02 and are you suggesting he isn't watching his news coverage? the single most important thing in his life (aside from maybe his own opinion of himself) then what prompted this tweet yesterday: "When will all the haters and fools out there realize that having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. There always playing politics - bad for our country. I want to solve North Korea, Syria, Ukraine, terrorism, and Russia can greatly help!" http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/929503641014112256
Renzo Marquez Member	Sun Nov 12 11:11:40 tw trusts the CIA? Lulz.
American Democrat Member	Sun Nov 12 11:15:32 What exactly is the problem with that. Are you suggesting that you trust Trump? Which is equally as laughable. The general question posed, are we to trust our intel agencies. Why, yes, we must trust them to a degree. Part of our defense measures. But, are we to trust them without any objectivity, or course not. But in this situation, what is the alternative, Alexander Hamilton, or do you not have one or will you run away forgoing any analysis?
hood Member	Sun Nov 12 11:28:24 It's objectively unfunny though.
hood Member	Sun Nov 12 11:28:35 ^ was at rugian
Renzo Marquez Member	Sun Nov 12 11:33:03 American Democrat Member Sun Nov 12 11:15:32 "What exactly is the problem with that." They are completely untrustworthy. "Are you suggesting that you trust Trump?" No. "The general question posed, are we to trust our intel agencies. Why, yes, we must trust them to a degree. Part of our defense measures." Lulz. Let's play a game. I'll provide a list of CIA activities. You explain how they enhanced our defense. "But in this situation, what is the alternative, Alexander Hamilton, or do you not have one or will you run away forgoing any analysis?" Demand to see the actual evidence. Do not put any faith in the CIA in the absence of the evidence because the intelligence community has proven to be completely unreliable, routinely takes actions that make Americans less safe, etc.
American Democrat Member	Sun Nov 12 11:35:43 "Lulz. Let's play a game. I'll provide a list of CIA activities. You explain how they enhanced our defense. " The same can be said for the military, I can provide a list of military actions, how does this enhance our defense? Poor logical presentation, you won't win that bout. "Demand to see the actual evidence. Do not put any faith in the CIA in the absence of the evidence because the intelligence community has proven to be completely unreliable, routinely takes actions that make Americans less safe, etc. " Actually evidence will not be exactly provided to the public, unless it is requested in various particular formats. Not sure what you are wanting? Complete transparency? That won't happen.
Renzo Marquez Member	Sun Nov 12 11:46:12 American Democrat Member Sun Nov 12 11:35:43 "The same can be said for the military, I can provide a list of military actions, how does this enhance our defense?" The military and the intelligence community both make Americans less safe. Please try to keep up. American Democrat Member Sun Nov 12 11:35:43 "Lulz. Let's play a game. I'll provide a list of CIA activities. You explain how they enhanced our defense. " The same can be said for the military, I can provide a list of military actions, how does this enhance our defense? Poor logical presentation, you won't win that bout. "Actually evidence will not be exactly provided to the public, unless it is requested in various particular formats. Not sure what you are wanting? Complete transparency? That won't happen." It won't happen because it doesn't exist.
American Democrat Member	Sun Nov 12 11:50:29 "The military and the intelligence community both make Americans less safe. Please try to keep up. " Once again, no alternative, this are you suggesting the disbandment of military and intel communities? It is easy to be dismissive and make such declarations, but have not an alternative, or really present a rationale other than stating what is fallible. "It won't happen because it doesn't exist. " I shall quote "dude where's my car". "and then?"
Rugian Member	Sun Nov 12 12:21:47 hood Member Sun Nov 12 11:28:24 It's objectively unfunny though. The President of the United States calling another world leader fat and ugly and trolling him about wanting to be his friend? It's amazing.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 12:45:10 Trump smears the intel community only on Putin & Hillary... both self-serving this notion the intel community is untrustworthy so Trump is right is ridiculous, he cites nothing as reason to distrust them on this issue except Putin says he didn't do it and unless he calls for disbanding the agencies because they can't be trusted (or has secret evidence... yeah right) it's not an acceptable position for Trump to be taking the President shouldn't be undermining our intel agencies on the world stage and he's done it twice! and any republican (or non-anarchist) disagreeing has gone insane
obaminated Member	Sun Nov 12 17:05:27 That is a pretty funny tweet.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 17:21:27 about Twitter: "I'm going to be very restrained, if I use it at all, I'm going to be very restrained" ~Trump (one year ago today)
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 12 18:38:53 tw - this notion the intel community is untrustworthy so Trump is right is ridiculous, he cites nothing as reason to distrust them on this issue except Putin says he didn't do it Why do you continue with your rotten lies when I explained to you what he meant by those remarks. He **does indeed** take his Intel advisors word for it.
Cold Rod Member	Sun Nov 12 19:31:25 No, no he doesn't. If he did, he would stop making reckless statements.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 20:44:18 he has not said once he believes the Russians interefered, again saying only the opposite he called it a democrat hit job (not directed at collusion part, at all of it, he can't separate) and he noted again it wasn't 17 agencies only 4.... a STUPID line of attack to suggest the intel agencies aren't really sure, even though in reality it does nothing of the sort (only 4 would have any reason to be investigating)... and there is NO reason to note 'only 4' except to try to cast doubt he is an amazingly unfit moron asshole
Forwyn Member	Sun Nov 12 21:50:59 "are you suggesting the disbandment of military and intel communities?" Abolish the CIA.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 22:10:22 may as well, can't really justify any action based on their info with the President saying it's garbage as to his 'funny' tweet: Kim called him a 'lunatic old man'... interesting Trump only annoyed by the 'old' part...
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 12 22:37:08 You are the pinnacle when they speak of POS.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 00:35:14 "I will be making a major statement from the @WhiteHouse upon my return to D.C. Time and date to be set." http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/930320191699017730 in other words... 'Look at me!!!!!' too much Roy Moore & Don Jr coverage i guess
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 00:53:23 outside shot he wants to replace Sessions with the crazy Fox News harpy Jeanine Pirro... (sort of a female Hannity)... apparently they communicate, she even went to see Trump in person to slam Sessions & argue for special counsels for Hillary or something which obviously Trump would love or he's resigning or he's declaring a holiday to celebrate himself or he's initiating an attack on North Korea stay tuned!
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