Utopia Talk / Politics / Roy Moore - Alabama

tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 09 22:23:51 he's not done w/ being controversial... apparently he liked his women young but the defenders are out in force: "But it's interesting," Bannon told the audience. "The Bezos-Amazon-Washington Post that dropped that dime on Donald Trump, is the same Bezos-Amazon-Washington Post that dropped the dime this afternoon on Judge Roy Moore. Now is that a coincidence? That's what I mean when I say opposition party, right? It's purely part of the apparatus of the Democratic Party. They don't make any bones about it. By the way, I don't mind it. I'll call them out every day." that 'dime' is referring to the Access Hollywood tape... which was a tape... so... real... Hannity also is out defending Moore and Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler: “Take the Bible. Zachariah and Elizabeth for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist,” Ziegler said choosing his words carefully before invoking Christ. “Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.”
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 09 22:25:32 and the one who was 14 is a Republican & Trump voter... i'll guess Hannity & the others don't mention that
Rugian Member	Thu Nov 09 22:41:24 Source is WaPo, so assuming fake news until I hear otherwise. kthxbye
Trolly Member	Thu Nov 09 22:45:11 Pussgian hates facts.
Rugian Member	Thu Nov 09 22:46:31 Still not a clever nick, multi.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 09 23:12:23 which part are you assuming is fake (with no basis)? that the women don't exist or that they're lying?
Trolly Member	Thu Nov 09 23:16:20 Pussgian still upset because of his gun vs vehicle debacle.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 00:01:54 here's Wall Street Journal's story: http://www...uct-claims-are-true-1510258993 i don't have a subscription but the guy who tweeted the article says they got same story from the women...
Dukhat Member	Fri Nov 10 01:41:06 Rugian and his kind can't operate in the real world. THey need their conservative safe spaces where every newspaper of report is the "mainstream media" and Breitbart is to be worshipped. When Breitbart broke the Shirley Sherrod story and embarassed itself with it's outright racial pandering and lies; the few intelligent conservatives stopped reading it. The rest remained; Rugian and his merry crew of snowflakes in their alt-right buble.
yankeessuck123 Member	Fri Nov 10 02:22:21 The Rugians declared war on me in my Attila: Total War campaign, and I am none too pleased about it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 09:17:46 "Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. I believe Leigh Corfman. Her account is too serious to ignore. Moore is unfit for office and should step aside." ~Mitt Romney (dignified republican)
Trolly Member	Fri Nov 10 10:03:47 Any moment the 4channers/Breitbart army will parade in here and then say Mitt Romney is of the McCain variety. #SucksBannonsCock
John Adams Member	Fri Nov 10 10:10:32 It's Alabama politics, if you know anything about Alabama politics, this fits the "norm". Partially being facetious, but true to an extent. It is a different culture there.
patom Member	Fri Nov 10 10:19:52 In Bama they say 'If she's old enough to bleed, then she's old enough to breed'.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 11:03:54 tw - and the one who was 14 is a Republican & Trump voter... i'll guess Hannity & the others don't mention that ERR... A person needs to be 21 to vote for President, even Trump and even in Alabama. I guess you did not know that.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 11:10:50 'If she's old enough to bleed, then she's old enough to butcher'. (reworded) This is the cruder version. Not really sure which version predates the other.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 11:18:03 it's 18 to vote, and this happened over 30 years ago
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 13:59:56 You are correct, I was wrong.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 14:11:43 so which is it? A) these women are telling the truth but 14 is old enough B) these women are telling the truth but Roy is a changed man C) these women are all lying, despite the shitstorm they will go through, and for the most part only chose to make fairly mild accusations for some reason...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 14:21:24 the Russian fake accounts are on it spreading more fake shit for the HRs of the world http://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/929070676065030144
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 14:21:37 and Gateway Pundit picked up ^that suspicious tweet... http://www...accuse-roy-moore-sexual-abuse/
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 14:38:30 BTW, for what it is worth, 14 is the age of consent in Hawaii.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Fri Nov 10 16:20:22 Not since 9/11. http://en....nt_in_the_United_States#Hawaii
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 17:36:54 I came home at the end of '94.
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 10 20:29:04 I assume she aint the only 14 year old he hit on, if he was into that sorta thing. Until more come out, itll be a he said she said thing with both sides believing the other side full of liars.
Forwyn Member	Fri Nov 10 20:50:24 Pedos should be shot. ....but not based on the 38-year old hearsay of a girl who never told anyone but her friends.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 21:10:15 why is only having told her friends odd? look at Cosby, Ailes, Trump, Weinstein... and the friends backing up the story certainly add credibility... plus Roy was pretty waffley with Hannity on dating teens
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 21:24:45 They did the same thing to three FOX people. O'Riley was a little iffy, but of the other two one of them's son killed himself because of the allegation, which easily explains his not returning to work, and the other is back to work. This comes from the lefts filthiest bag of tricks. They always pull it out when the stakes are high just like now. I recall them using it in Hawaii decades ago. They used it against Cain in Obama's first election I would imagine simply because they did not want another black anywhere near the race and they used it against Trump last year. I have no doubt they are repeating their despicable trick now because of the closeness of the votes in The Senate. The progressives will use any trick no matter how degenerate.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 21:34:22 Who is "they"? It was Fox News women who accused them
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 21:37:19 That was Roger Ailes that was accused by FOX women. These accusations came from years ago from women that no one ever heard of AFAIK.
delude Member	Fri Nov 10 21:45:26 "....but not based on the 38-year old hearsay of a girl who never told anyone but her friends." I guess those catholic accusers should have remained silent.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 21:50:04 i was trying to figure out what the hell "They did the same thing to three FOX people. " meant & how relevant to this unless you think Gretchen Carlson & the other Fox News women are secret Hillary agents
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 22:00:30 HANNITY: “And you can say unequivocally that you never dated anybody that was in their late teens like that when you were 32?” MOORE: “It would have been out of my customary behavior, that’s right.” so... that's an admission of the dating the older teens anyway in my opinion Q:"can you say unequivocally you never murdered a prostitute?" A:"it would have been out of my customary behavior" um...? the 14-year-old was at the courthouse at the time mentioned, has the contemporaneous telling of friends... all sounds fairly believable
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 22:22:17 a local TV reporter interview: Mike Ortiz says he dated Corfman (Roy Moore’s accuser) for 2 years around 2009. He says during that time, she told him about a sexual encounter w/ Moore when she was young. http://twitter.com/LaurenWalshTV/status/928785872958492672 ...another Hillary agent
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 10 22:34:05 Lol, you guys are fucking stupid and biased. Both forwyn and i state fairly clear and honest statements. Namely, there should be more accusations if this is true, a pedophile doesnt pursue a child in a bubble, there is ALWAYS a habit of it. No one else comes forward? Dont take it seriously. More people come forward? Then it is a lpt more likely.
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 10 22:35:57 In before Trolly claims "someone can be a pedophile just once and never do it again" (And he will not see the pointlessness of that argument)
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 10 22:45:33 tw - the 14-year-old was at the courthouse at the time mentioned, has the contemporaneous telling of friends... all sounds fairly believable Say what? How does she know she was at the courthouse on a given day 30 years ago? Hell, I can't even remember if I was in school on a given day that long ago.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 23:09:38 @mt: for starters, this isn't pedophilia... but it's possible more than 4 teens will come forward yes, and you'll say they are all fake as well @HR: she didn't have to remember the date, the courthouse has records and the reporters verified she was there with her mother... if she was lying she has to remember the court visit & hope it can't be proven he was somewhere else that day
Trolly Member	Sat Nov 11 00:30:28 Gotta love the mtard and forseb lovefest. When's the wedding date?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Nov 11 05:39:38 tw, what reporters. Where is your link. You always post stuff you wish or believe to be true, but you never post a link.
Cold Rod Member	Sat Nov 11 06:23:51 "You always post stuff you wish or believe to be true, but you never post a link. " Anyone else see the irony of this comment?
Renzo Marquez Member	Sat Nov 11 07:15:12 The only serious allegation here comes from the woman who claims she was 14 when she interacted with Moore. Everything else is a distraction. Moore will win unless evidence backing her claim comes out.
Senor Marquez Member	Sat Nov 11 08:12:48 My wife and I love black baby jesus
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Nov 11 11:09:20 Yeah, I usually don't post a link. I usually post the article and the link.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 11 21:59:08 the original Washington Post article: "The Post confirmed that her mother attended a hearing at the courthouse in February 1979 through divorce records." http://www...7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html predicted response: "Washington Post, 'nuff said" which is a sentiment already being said by many Moore defenders as though the women who are named & have photos & have been interviewed by others don't exist... Roy even acknowledged knowing some of the families & called the women 'good girls'... & said he always got the permission of mothers before dating a girl which is a weird thing to say unless they were in fact teens & said many other red flags...
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Nov 11 22:04:16 I don't believe that for a moment. Especially coming from the wp.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 11 22:07:15 don't believe what?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 11 22:08:46 if they are lying about the court records, Moore would obviously look it up himself Moore saying he got mothers' permission is from your own hero Hannity's interview the way he answered questions it was clear he was admitting to dating at least the 16+ age girls
Canadian Member	Mon Nov 13 15:27:17 I'm starting to cotton on as to why Moore has the hate on for Islam - their prophet married and had sex with a 9 year old, and Moore is pissed that his religion and country's laws don't allow for it...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 13 15:44:12 In a statement to CNN, Teresa Jones, who served as deputy district attorney for Etowah County, Ala., from 1982 until 1985, said that multiple people thought it was unusual that Moore dated high school girls, but that no one ever raised the matter with him. "It was common knowledge that Roy Moore dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird," Jones told CNN. "We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall ... but you really wouldn't say anything to someone like that." http://the...n-knowledge-that-he-dated-teen
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 11:40:07 @Renzo's 100th post of other thread YES, dating all the 16+ girls IS relevant, no crime is being charged, this is whether voters want the guy... and the 16+ girls add credibility to the non-16 ones what is ILLEGAL has NO RELEVANCE, it's about his character if you don't care that he (legally) preyed on teens while in his 30s (which is essentially proven), then fine, you don't care (or just don't find it a reason not to vote for him) if you want to discount the under 16 ones simply because the Washington Post reported it, and they are known to pay people to lie in their stories (oh wait, they aren't)... then discount them if you don't care if he broke some laws with the <16, while not breaking laws while preying on 16+s, then that's your right legality has nothing to do with this
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 11:43:16 *actually it may only be one under 16... the new disturbing/coercive incident i think was 16
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 14:53:05 "Alabamians will not be fooled by this #InsideHitJob. Mitch McConnell's days as Majority Leader are coming to an end very soon. The fight has just begun." http://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/930535804799242240 you'd think Mitch would've gotten these dozens of people to lie during the primary
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 14:53:32 (that tweet was from Roy Moore)
Average European Member	Tue Nov 14 15:36:31 There were similar kinds of rumors about sleazeball Ted Kennedy, who also went the extra step of driving off a bridge and leaving his female passenger to drown. His punishment? Senator for life. rofl.
delude Member	Tue Nov 14 17:53:46 Whataboutisms!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 19:03:34 former mall employee: 'Roy Moore was on a watchlist' ...and that's from a guy so finally someone who can be believed!
delude Member	Tue Nov 14 19:19:53 http://www...all-alabama-teen-girls-2017-11 This is not 'piling up' according to our local counselor.
delude Member	Tue Nov 14 19:22:54 Moore has also gone on record stating he doesn't know the latest victim he sexually assaulted, as he signed the year book.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 21:46:10 as far as i know he hasn't called it a forgery yet (although some conservative sites taking it upon themselves to suggest it is) seems like that should've been one of his first moves even Hannity turning on him: "For me, the judge has 24 hours. You must immediately and fully come up with a satisfactory explanation for your inconsistencies," Hannity said. "You must remove any doubt. If you can't do this, then Judge Moore needs to get out of this race." (although advertisers are dropping him so probably related)
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Nov 15 10:37:16 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore what a shithead. How did GOP sunk so low. I am reading about Utah senator Mike Lee pulling his endorsement of Roy Moore. But how did Lee and Rand, two supposedly strict constitutionalists, endorsed the guy who claims that muslims can not be seated in US Congress, in the first place/ Must be some other constitution they are reading, one with all kinds of religious tests
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Nov 15 10:39:09 http://www.drudgereport.com/ what a headline @ drudgereport BANNON TURNS ON JUDGE WHORE?
delude Member	Thu Nov 16 05:18:55 Roy Moore is a piece of shit. But it isn't more about his politics or views in a sense. It's just like any party line people. If you have "R" or "D" beside you we need you. Despite that fact that you fundamentally clueless on the Constitution or completely disregard it. Or if you are a sexual abuse, murderer, or whatever the case. As long as you show you are a gun toting, anti-lgbtqiabcdefg, anti-abortion that an object is "life", or whatever long list of shit that is flawed. You having, in this instance, an "R" is imperative. It is somewhat, yet reserved, refreshing to see that those in that same party are pulling back, and agree to an extent that Moore would be a poor addition to the chambers. But, they should have been doing that before the alleged accusations came out. #numbersmatters
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