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Dukhat
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Thu Nov 02 18:14:17 2017
We should start a betting pool about how long it will take at this point.

I'm thinking within 9 months of democrats retaking the house. Moderate Republicans Senators will see the writing on the wall and join dems.

So almost 2 years from today Trump will be fitted for an Orange Jumpsuit.
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 18:38:29 2017
notice how Fox News was all 'the investigation must end cause that one dossier was done by a guy paid by a firm that was paid by the Hillary campaign!'
& how suddenly the uranium deal from 7 years ago is a threat so our national security & was solely done by bribes to Hillary (even though it was approved by multiple agencies, and no real direct link to Hillary at all)

Fox News is getting worse i think

now we have additional proof of (minimally) collusion attempts in Papadopoulus emails to go along with the Don Jr emails & all sorts of other meetings & interference evidence... so maybe Fox News should apologize for being dicks
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 18:39:17 2017
also, the Jeff Flake speech was fantastic... all should watch

& good job from Corker too
pillz
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Thu Nov 02 18:46:13 2017
Trump's getting off fine and the Uranium deal was just 1 of 2 major scandals Hillary had in the nuclear arena.
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 18:49:38 2017
that's another thing... Fox News keeps saying 'scandal' after these stories. If anyone has proof Hillary pressured anyone to agree to that deal, present it. I've heard of a Russian giving $ to her charity... which was before she was even secretary of state... & that's about the whole 'scandal'.

pillz
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Thu Nov 02 19:04:46 2017
http://www...onor-rajiv-fernando/index.html
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 19:06:05 2017
the 25th amendment option might be as likely as impeachment

his family might prefer him being declared mentally incompetent to explain his past & future unacceptable & moronic comments to not ruin the family name

both options require lots of spine growth... preferably by whatever decent people are left at Fox News & politicians still running for re-election
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 19:13:20 2017
not sure the relevance of that CNN article... Hillary isn't president, & she doesn't become president when Trump led away in chains... at least her two supposed russia 'scandals' have a minor relevance to Trump (although it's absolutely ridiculous to think Russia was trying to help her beat Trump, who was oddly pro-Russia his entire campaign)
Rugian
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Thu Nov 02 19:35:38 2017
Impeachment isn't happening, sorry. Yeah, there's are millions of Hillary voters that want to pull that trigger, big surprise. They still need the GOP establishment to do that and the GOP just can't turn on Trump, no matter how they secretly despise him. If they ally with the Dems to stab Trump in the bsck, that's it for the entire party. Conservatives aren't interested in supporting career Beltway politicians like Mccain who do nothing for them, and no matter how much the GOP sells it's base out it's never going to make up those votes with leftist defections.

So Trump stays in office, because the GOP keeps him in office. Or the GOP establishment reveals its true colors, and the party ceases to exist as a result. Easy choice.
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 02 19:38:06 2017

duk brain - So almost 2 years from today Trump will be fitted for an Orange Jumpsuit.


ERR...

Making America Better is not a crime.

President Trump announced last hour that a Fortune 500 company, Broadcom, was moving ***BACK*** to America from Singapore. It is a multi-billion dollar semiconductor company.

Just as President Trump said would happen. American companies are coming home,

Hardly an impeachable offense.

tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 19:43:57 2017
will his base ever get concerned that his sole source of information seems to be Fox & Friends?

or his always childish reactions to everything...

'that dick's going to gitmo!'
'ok, i found out gitmo actually isn't better, so he's not going to gitmo... but we should kill him!'

and they let him name the tax bill and he wanted the 'Cut, Cut, Cut Act'... which they seem to have gotten him to change to the similarly simple/childish 'Tax Cuts & Jobs Act'
Rugian
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Thu Nov 02 19:48:43 2017
Where would you prefer he get his news from, CNN? WaPo? Some other site that openly loathes both him and conservatism in general?

And surveys say the base isn't going anywhere, sorry.
Paramount
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Thu Nov 02 19:53:11 2017
”Just as President Trump said would happen. American companies are coming home,”

When will Ivanka Trump move her production to America?
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 02 19:54:19 2017

The big shot from Broadcom was there and right after Trump announced it the big guy said they would make America nome again.

When it is a live announcement coming right out of the principles mouths I would not call it "FOX and FRIENDS" news especially when Fox and Friends knew nothing about the announcement this morning. I guess you are having trouble with the term "last hour."

Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 02 19:54:50 2017
*-home
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 20:08:45 2017
i wasn't disputing the Broacom news (although skeptical about what deal was made), i was posting in response to Rugian although it was a general comment

as president i would hope he could get news from more than the TV, especially one of the dumbest shows on a clearly biased channel... although i doubt he does, and probably his staff is fine with it so he can't blab. he has the military operating on their own so doesn't need that potentially classified info anyway.
Dukhat
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Thu Nov 02 20:49:44 2017
He gets his news mainly from Fox and also special manilla folders where his aides print out articles from Breitbart (no I'm not kidding, look it up).

That's why he couldn't denounce the white supremacists at Charlottesville. He read articles from Breitbart talking about Antifa and how the "other" side was bad if not worse. This idiot president literally can't tell good information from bad which makes sense since he can't tell right from wrong either.
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 21:06:13 2017
John Kelly supposedly put a stop to some of that Breitbart/other shitty website printouts crap... but Kelly seems to be getting corrupted by Trump so who knows if still going on
swordtail
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Thu Nov 02 21:24:32 2017
"but Kelly seems to be getting corrupted by Trump so who knows if still going on"

lol
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 22:00:54 2017
what are you loling at? look how Spicer debased himself, and Sarah Sanders...& so many politicians have flushed their dignity in ignoring or defending his stupidity/immaturity/dishonesty

Kelly clearly smeared the congresswoman w/ his bad memory, there's video proof... yet he won't apologize
also just in defending Trump shows there's something wrong with him yet he had a good reputation beforehand
swordtail
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Thu Nov 02 22:10:31 2017
i am not defending kelly.
i'm lolling at your comment that trump corrupted him.
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 22:21:03 2017
it's hard to think of anyone surrounding Trump who doesn't seem more disgusting now than they did before... perhaps he succeeds despite himself by having his bad mojo dispersed on to those around him like a fungus releasing spores

i'm basing it purely on people suggesting Kelly had a good reputation & having high hopes when he was appointed
Nimatzo
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Thu Nov 02 22:24:32 2017
You Americans throw around impeachment like a 2 dollar whore. We all know how notoriously difficult this is to achieve and your country is so divided right now. What are the odds on this at your most respectable establishments of betting?
TJ
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Thu Nov 02 22:29:52 2017
^ zero chance
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 02 22:31:15 2017
there has never been someone so clearly unfit in character & mental capacity
werewolf dictator
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Fri Nov 03 00:20:51 2017
the russians were involved in bribery when they gave bill and hillary over $145 million.. and hillary sold usa down the river by handing over american uranium vital to strategic defense of usa

like that scandal is not enough.. hillary and dnc illegally hired foreign national to collude with russians in kremlin on peegate smear dossier for election.. then in knowledge of their guilt they lied about it ["with sanctimony"] for over a year to fec and reporters.. thus breaking so many campaign laws i lost count


meanwhile trump economic miracle continues with 3% gdp growth in last quarter despite trump having to heroically defeat hurricanes left and right.. with low inflation and lowest unemployment rate since 2001 and tiny misery index and record stock markets etc.. as trump destroys isis with help of russians..


essentially trump still will gloriously be in office in 2024.. while clintons and every one remotely associated with them will be rotting in prison cells [assuming there is any justice in this world]
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 00:28:03 2017
"handing over american uranium vital to strategic defense of usa"

weird it took 7 years for someone to notice... plus State Dept was only one of many agencies that approved it, and Hillary delegated it to an expert... and unlikely Fox News notes they don't have an export license so no evidence any uranium given to Russia to begin with

as for Steele dossier... Hillary's campaign paid a company who paid him & he paid contacts for info... and as Trump had business in Russia, not that weird to ask people in Russia for that info imo

whereas Papadopolous & Don Jr both working directly w/ Russian gov't for help (w/ rock solid email proof)
werewolf dictator
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Fri Nov 03 01:30:35 2017
it's not odd that people in trump campaign would ask about crooked hillary's dealings with russia after she took all those bribes.. that's not illegal

what is illegal is hillary and dnc hiring foreign national to work on campaign.. by colluding with russians.. and then in consciousness of guilt lying to fec on reason for payments
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 04:46:19 2017

I missed your nonsense and ignorance.


NOT!

Trolly McDick
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Fri Nov 03 12:04:46 2017
LOL, Trump's camp people indicted and you have those completely still stuck on Clinton and Uranium one, without any clear evidence of any wrong doing.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 15:33:07 2017

My last was for tumbleweed.

MrPresident07
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Fri Nov 03 15:34:57 2017
It's truly fascinating how much the left hates Trump.

Make no mistake, Jeb or Marco would be labeled racists right now for the whole statue nonsense, and they would hate the immigrants because they would want extra border security in a package deal before amnesty. Also, they'd hate the poor because of "tax cuts for da rich!".

But man, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying the absolute meltdown of the left in response to Trump.
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 16:17:33 2017

Good point.

Maybe I should change my output from rage at their stupidity to amusement at their stupidity.

tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 16:19:18 2017
"It's truly fascinating how much the left hates Trump"

also respectable conservatives
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 16:22:15 2017

Ha Ha Ha.


Yep, it seems to help. Furter study required though.

tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 16:29:42 2017
wanna-be dictator on his struggles to get Hillary investigated:

“But you know the saddest thing is that because I’m the president of the United States, I am not supposed to be involved with the Justice Department. I’m not supposed to be involved with the FBI. I’m not supposed to be doing the kind of things that I would love to be doing. And I’m very frustrated by it.”

there was even a Trump shill on CNN saying the president SHOULD have control... have the president choose who gets investigated & who doesnt... i'm sure his opinion would've been the same if Hillary was prez...


AND it didn't stop the idiot child wanna-be dictator from tweeting:
"
Everybody is asking why the Justice Department (and FBI) isn't looking into all of the dishonesty going on with Crooked Hillary & the Dems

..New Donna B book says she paid for and stole the Dem Primary. What about the deleted E-mails, Uranium, Podesta, the Server, plus, plus...

....People are angry. At some point the Justice Department, and the FBI, must do what is right and proper. The American public deserves it!


Pocahontas just stated that the Democrats, lead by the legendary Crooked Hillary Clinton, rigged the Primaries! Lets go FBI & Justice Dept.
"
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 16:44:13 2017
if Obama spent his presidency slinging childish nicknames at R's, asking the justice dept to investigate them, promoting an MSNBC show several times a week while repeatedly calling Fox News FAKE NEWS, and never speaking in factual information unless reading a teleprompter... that would have been fine right?
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 16:46:02 2017
...and that barely scratches the surface of the problems with this unethical, disgusting blob
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 17:00:15 2017
Trump on unfilled positions in State Dept
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/926270891918528516
"The one that matters is me. I am the only one that matters."


a childish malignant narcissist authoritarian megalomaniac president... aka a clear and present danger to the USA
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 17:53:45 2017

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

tw is hilarious.

tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 20:03:19 2017
so when Trump pulls out of his ass that we are hitting ISIS "ten times harder" after this terror attack, are you thinking 'thank you master, for lying to my face'?
Forwyn
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Fri Nov 03 20:21:15 2017
"also respectable conservatives"

I mean, I hope you're not talking about shitbags like Colludin' McCain
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 20:28:46 2017
i was referring to radio & pundit type people... seems like the ones who sound intelligent & dignified dislike Trump

only the boisterous blustering windbags are pro-Trump
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 21:11:15 2017
here's another total lie within a lie by the President of the United States, behavior that's completely accepted for some reason...

"The rigged Dem Primary, one of the biggest political stories in years, got ZERO coverage on Fake News Network TV last night. Disgraceful!"
http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/926481563214376961

(i was watching CNN, they covered it a lot... & CNN is one of the ones he's labeled Fake News)
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 21:27:35 2017

Perhaps he didn't watch CNN last night.

If so, then to the best of his knowledge he told the truth.


A lie is only a lie if the teller knows it is a lie.

tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 21:32:00 2017
Trump is currently raping a woman
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 21:42:58 2017

At 71 years old, women are the last thing on his mind.

swordtail
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Fri Nov 03 21:47:28 2017
"At 71 years old, women are the last thing on his mind. "

what?

trump is gay?

are you sure?
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 22:04:42 2017

There is a point in time when men start losing interest in women it usually starts in the mid to late 60's.

Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 22:07:07 2017

Looking doesn't count.

I'll be 79 in a few weeks and a pretty girl can still turn my head, but beyond lookin' I could care less.

Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 03 22:11:10 2017
*-I could not care less.
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 03 22:12:39 2017
Melania is fucking a group of muslims while Trump watches
Trolly McAwesome
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Fri Nov 03 22:14:08 2017
Because you like children....we've known that for years.
kargen
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Fri Nov 03 23:23:17 2017
Trump has taken on the role of court jester but still hasn't done anything that would lead to him being impeached.

And if Pelosi is mentally competent enough to remain in congress the past ten or more years then President Trumps flies by with ease.
Hot Rod
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Sat Nov 04 01:54:37 2017

If Pelosi is mentally competent then I could easily be President.

tumbleweed
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Sun Nov 05 18:54:15 2017
"the reason our stock market is so successful is because of me. I've always been great with money"
~guess who
Hot Rod
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Sun Nov 05 19:34:41 2017

I would say, President Trump.

And because he has always been great with money the investors in the stock market believe in him and their confidence is driving the market.

tumbleweed
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Mon Nov 06 19:27:09 2017
Trump continuing to embarrass

"Recounting the 2016 election — because that is the only context Trump seems to have for anything in the world — he told the crowd how the number of congratulatory phone calls surprised him when “everybody was calling me from all over the world” because he “never knew we had so many countries.”"
(can't stop bragging about his win, plus the joking about his massive ignorance)

And about Japan not shooting down that NK missile
"The U.S. president said he could not understand why a country of samurai warriors did not shoot down the missiles, the sources said."

(this was from private conversation so no proof...but he did say he wished they'd shot it down during the presser last night, and I assume no one would doubt he would say that samurai thing as his understanding of all things is that of a child)

tumbleweed
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Mon Nov 06 19:29:13 2017
...I'll give him a pass on the koi feeding incident as Abe had done something similar (but less oafish) beforehand
obaminated
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Mon Nov 06 23:41:14 2017
Honestly the utter confusion and desperation along the left over trump still being in office and there still being no evidence trump was involved in any crime makes me enjoy politics again. I would love for trump to serve 8 years with a booming economy solely so my friends and relatives who screech impeach will have their spirits crushed.
Trolly
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Mon Nov 06 23:50:24 2017
Amazing the insight you have to an ongoing investigation where none of us really know.

Seriously, you are an embarrassment.
obaminated
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Tue Nov 07 00:09:35 2017
"I acknowledge i make retarded points" trolly
tumbleweed
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Tue Nov 07 00:21:31 2017
no evidence trump was involved in any crime?

"I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."

(sound of Tic Tac shaking)... ie. not locker room talk... ie. sexual assaulter
tumbleweed
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Tue Nov 07 00:24:30 2017
...also his continuous lying, contempt for the law, unethical behavior, shady tax practices, shady business practices, countless lawsuits etc... he's committed crimes, no doubt about it

just would prefer him being brought down by Tic Tacs
Trolly
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Tue Nov 07 01:51:19 2017
""I acknowledge i make retarded points" trolly"

No where have I said that.

But I have seen you and your admittance of sucking cocks.
Dukhat
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Tue Nov 07 04:09:13 2017
The lawsuit by the women who accused trump is still going through the courts. It's not over yet ...
tumbleweed
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Tue Nov 07 17:24:16 2017
"Ralph Northam will allow crime to be rampant in Virginia."
~The President of the United States

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/927851387857367040

(Northam being the Democrat running for governor)
Hot Rod
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Tue Nov 07 17:36:45 2017

If he is anything like de Blasio...

True.

obaminated
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Tue Nov 07 19:43:04 2017
"90% of Trolly's "points" are completely retarded, but I'll be a good soldier and go through them for a round or so. "

May be retarded @ Trolly

You are a very sad man.
Trolly
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Tue Nov 07 20:14:39 2017
So you admit that I didn't say that? Good to know.
obaminated
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Tue Nov 07 20:23:53 2017
Its funny how stupid you are. Lets argue some more hypothetical situations because that isnt a complete waste of time.
Trolly
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Tue Nov 07 20:27:11 2017
Says the one with the "mtard" and retarded rep in general.

Have you contributed anything to a discussion, except one liners, or anything that consists of a rational debate on here? History shows you haven't.
Memory Lane
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Tue Nov 07 20:29:02 2017
I remember when not only hot rod was added on the "teabaggers belief system " threads so was mexicantornado for his dumb things he said.

I drink and remember things.
tumbleweed
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Tue Nov 07 22:55:33 2017
the DOJ has finally dropped charges against the woman who laughed during Sessions confirmation hearing... (yeah, that was still going on)

maybe they had to wait til Trump out of the country to be less nazish
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 09 01:39:23 2017
"Congratulations to all of the ”DEPLORABLES” and the millions of people who gave us a MASSIVE (304-227) Electoral College landslide victory!"
~Trump (a moron)

a 'massive landslide' where he has to specify electoral college since he badly lost popular vote... and even the E.C. victory margin not remarkable at all relative to past elections...
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 09 02:06:07 2017
"The US must oust the lunatic old man from power and withdraw the hostile policy towards the DPRK at once in order to get rid of the abyss of doom."

we should give in to their demands
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 09 05:23:28 2017

ml - I remember when not only hot rod was added on the "teabaggers belief system " threads so was mexicantornado for his dumb things he said.


You remember stuff like that because you are a liberal and that certainly puts your opinions and your lies in the proper cubbyhole.

You now have my permission to drink two liters of whiskey before going to bed.


Plesant Dreams.

tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 09 22:18:00 2017
Trump's bodyguard testified he was offered 5 women to be sent to Trump's hotel room after his beauty pageant thing... bodyguard claims he declined, but maybe Trump accepted then or another time... seems like something he'd do, given he's a known pussy grabber

so yet another thing in dossier closer to being confirmed imo...
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 09 23:15:59 2017

Or maybe you are so wrong you are just totally pathetic.


tw, how does it feel to be ten times worse a human being than you think Trump is?


Cold Rod
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Thu Nov 09 23:28:48 2017
You really have not room to criticize....pedo-racist-traitor.
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 09 23:33:01 2017
does Trump seem like the kind of guy to turn down free prostitutes? or free anything...
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 09 23:39:30 2017

Yes.

Too bad you don't have the brains to understand him. Or anything for that matter.


I've been watching him in conversation for years.

He's really a decent guy until he is attacked.

Cold Rod
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Thu Nov 09 23:48:36 2017
LOL!
Cold Rod
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Thu Nov 09 23:48:55 2017
Just completely drunk off the kool-aid.
Trolly
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Thu Nov 09 23:50:32 2017
"Yes.

Too bad you don't have the brains to understand him. Or anything for that matter.


I've been watching him in conversation for years.

He's really a decent guy until he is attacked. "

How fucking dumb are you?
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 09 23:51:46 2017
Q: "What's the favorite thing you have in common with your daughter?"
Trump: "Well I was going to say sex..."

========

<about some woman>:
"I did try and fuck her. She was married.
... I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look."

====

Also, abused his position to go into the dressing rooms to leer at the pageant women dressing


...just a sampling
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 09 23:54:28 2017

sigh!

Trolly
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Thu Nov 09 23:55:46 2017
Let us not forget how he has expressed his desire to date his daughter.
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 10 00:35:37 2017
another bodyguard revelation:
he had to make runs to McDonalds when the White House couldn't make burgers to satisfy the idiot

(also related... the foreign countries on his Asia trip were warned he has the palate of a child & to keep stuff simple & familiar)
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 10 00:49:49 2017

LOL and you never eat burgers or KFC.


Only Prime Rib and filet mignons.

Right?


The man likes fast food and doesn't want anything to do with hookers and you think that those are bad things.

So fucking what? You are freaking batshit bonkers do you know that?



Where were your complaints when Hillary used to treat the Secret Service like dog shit and Biden and Obama used to shut down a man's business for an hour or more when they went out for hot dogs.


I take it back. You are not 10 times worse than what you think of President Trump.


You are more like 20 times worse and you are not good enough to eat his shit out of a crapper.

tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 10 00:54:11 2017
do you think foreign leaders respect Trump or are laughing their asses off at his requirements for well-done steaks w/ ketchup & McDonalds burgers?
Hot Rod
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Fri Nov 10 01:08:13 2017

I don't think he cares and I doubt foreign leaders do either.

Do you even know why he wants his steaks well-done and why he prefers burgers?


Thought not.

tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 10 01:25:57 2017
because he's a child

but he also likes fast food because in his warped mind they are less likely to have tainted food as it would cause more damage to their brand than a non-chain restaurant
tumbleweed
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Fri Nov 10 01:56:20 2017
...or maybe that was made-up bullshit for when other rich people mocked him
Trolly
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Fri Nov 10 04:40:54 2017
Did you know he favors incest?
obaminated
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Fri Nov 10 04:50:15 2017
Trolly keeps trying to get attention but is being ignored. Sad.
Trolly
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Fri Nov 10 05:00:17 2017
^still retarded and has been in that lane for his existences on the forum. sad and hilarious.
mexicantardnado
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Fri Nov 10 05:01:24 2017
planned-parenthood, planned-parenthood, planned-parenthood!
Trolly
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Fri Nov 10 05:02:21 2017
mexitard equals
Trolly
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Fri Nov 10 05:02:31 2017
Trolly's bitch.
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