Utopia Talk / Politics / The Feds Have Opened An Investigation

Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 13:20:19 into the violence that occurred in Charlottesville Saturday. Just heard it on the news.
Average Ameriacn Member	Mon Aug 14 13:30:33 They should better look into Benghazi!!!
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 13:31:25 They announced this right after the President met with his AG and the FBI Director.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 13:31:58 AA, that is an affirmative.
TJ Member	Mon Aug 14 13:38:48 It is nearing 3 day old news if I'm not mistaken.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 13:40:49 Not for the feds getting definitely involved.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 13:46:40 Trump's presidential response to a black guy leaving his council after his weak ass response to the white supremacists: "Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned from President's Manufacturing Council,he will have more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!"
TJ Member	Mon Aug 14 13:52:15 The first I read about the investigation being opened. I was off a day, thus said nearing 3 day old news. Had to find the article. http://abc...charlottesville-crash/2300602/
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 13:54:55 Maybe Frazier has the power to quit ripping off the American people. If he left because of Trump's first response to Charlottesville, then he didn't hear what Trump was saying. The President was including the militant and violent leftist with the Nazis. As they should be.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 13:56:49 you probably didn't hear, but numerous republicans (including his ex-lover Scaramucci) criticized his response (& not just the usual suspects)
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:01:02 You and they obviously did not read Trump's message the way I did.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:02:22 BTW, I heard what they said.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 14:02:27 he has a habit of needing his words explained
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:03:13 Not to me.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 14:08:20 "My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever" ~IDIOT do you believe it is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before? cause he said "It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever" sounds like it should be now far stronger and more powerful than ever before... yet that is total horseshit...
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:14:31 You still have not learned when he is exaggerating and when he is not. When he exaggerates for a purpose then it is not a lie per se. It is for a purpose.
TJ Member	Mon Aug 14 14:14:33 He clearly denounced all hate and bigotry in his first response and naming particular sources shouldn't have been necessary. People gonna hate.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:18:05 True.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 14:22:07 what's the explanation for this one? "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally" ~deranged child idiot liar
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:28:58 We don't know for sure how many voted illegally. The practice is rampant amongst the left and they are blocking a nationwide investigation. And then you have these people. http://www...-While-Registered-in-Maryland/
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:29:39 But, millions is a fair estimate.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:32:35 I heard the other day about one State, I think it was Maryland or California, that they were going to allow illegal aliens to vote in State and local elections.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 14:33:59 That is what I call the cancer that is eroding America.
Rugian Member	Mon Aug 14 14:40:43 Several Maryland cities allow illegals to vote in local elections. Voting in federal elections is a straight violation of federal law though, so unless the law's constitutionality is challenged the states are legally barred from giving illegals that voting right.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 17:30:20 "We don't know for sure how many voted illegally." apparently Trump does... he knows for sure 3+ million voted illegally & has stated none of the votes went to him... based on solid gut evidence ---- "But, millions is a fair estimate." according to no expert anywhere
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 18:14:30 ""But, millions is a fair estimate." according to no expert anywhere" Unless you can empirically prove the President and myself wrong I will rely on our judgment.
Wrath of Orion Member	Mon Aug 14 18:29:10 Ah yes, the same old Hack Rod delusional bullshit... Hack Rod makes outlandish claim but provides no evidence. Someone calls bullshit and cites the lack of evidence. Hack Rod shrugs and claims his opinion is good enough and no evidence should be required. Fucking Retard levels of idiocy, as always.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:35:57 "Unless you can empirically prove the President and myself wrong I will rely on our judgment. " You and dumbass there have no proof. Experts and other election officials have expressed there is no outright, widespread voting fraud that is being conveyed but dumbasses such as yourself and Trump. So burden of proof is actually on you....
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 18:39:29 ^^^^^ - Idiot foreigner doesn't know the difference between a judgment and a fact. He needs a dozen or so classes in ESL.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:42:17 Apparently you need it because your opinion doesn't not equal fact. Facts are there is no widespread voting fraud.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:42:28 Does not*
TJ Member	Mon Aug 14 18:42:37 As vigorously the sanctuary cities are protected makes me suspicious when it comes to the topic of illegal voting. He is certainly trying to prove himself wrong in his certainty, but getting a lot of opposition from the left, which also raises my brow. I approve of the federal study of the voting roles and if the left is so certain he is wrong you'd think they would want it exposed.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 18:46:25 So true, but the left does not care about fact. They would rather lie. BTW, on second thought scratch the word judgment and use opinion instead. The word judgment is too complicated for the left.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 18:47:44 Trump stated it as fact that there were 3-5 Million fraud voters who all voted Hillary... he didn't say there MAY be fraud voting, we should look into it or anything else semi-reasonable if any adults believed this there would be massive aggressive investigations as it would have impacted countless races Trump is a liar (or demented... as quite possible he actually believes a lot of the nonsense he makes up)
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 18:47:45 troll - Facts are there is no widespread voting fraud. Then why are the Democrats blocking the study?
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:49:08 Pretty hilarious that those who say there isn't voting fraud and are on the election commissions are typically conservative or republican. I am appalled that they have gone on record and denounce the 'fraud commission' that Trump instituted which is now suspended. But TJ and Rod in the fuck buddydom can't handle that fact. Makes me suspicious that conservatives are against Trump and his idiocy.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:50:54 The Republican Backlash Against Trump's Vote-Fraud Commission http://www...to-where-you-came-from/532878/
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:51:32 "Then why are the Democrats blocking the study? " I don't you pedophile, why don't you ask the Republicans.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:51:41 *know.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:53:15 Election officials in states across the nation have found no evidence of widespread voter fraud during the 2016 election, contradicting claims from President Donald Trump and right-wing media that voter fraud is rampant in elections. http://www...ative-voter-fraud-fears/216404 lulz
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 18:54:07 "Then why are the Democrats blocking the study?" it was plenty of R states that don't want to send the requested info too everyone should be against a centralized database of all voter info... especially with IDIOT Trump, after talking to Putin, wanting to setup a joint team with him to protect elections
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:54:54 Conservative States Join California In Fighting Trump Voter Information Request http://sac.../06/30/trump-voter-commission/ lulz Why is Hot Rod so stupid.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 18:56:56 Republicans relieved Trump eased up on voter fraud claims http://www...voter-fraud-republicans-236046 lulz Hot Rod is so so stupid.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 19:00:33 http://www...-While-Registered-in-Maryland/
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 19:02:34 also the idea that you value Trumps 'judgment' (which he states as fact, and which is based on nothing as demonstrated by... every occasion?) over that of experts is slightly disturbing...
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 19:02:43 Yes, no one said there isn't voter fraud. But Trump's entourage had a few that had the same issue as well. I think his name was Bannon, if I recall could be wrong.... To the point...voter fraud and such happens. But you are talking on a grand scale of things that isn't true. You have no proof, Trump has no proof. And State election officials have said that it isn't an issue on the grand scheme. Again, why are you stupid?
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 19:03:49 PedoRod is going to bring up a 'handful' of people to demonstrate that there is widespread voters fraud to which there isn't anything remotely true.
TJ Member	Mon Aug 14 19:05:39 I can handle it just fine. Only stated an opinion that would prove Trump totally wrong. lol
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 19:08:39 What's the matter woo, wasn't I giving you enough attention? You had to make up a multi to hide your multi behind. As I said, "go soak your head in a pile of shit, you might learn something."
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 19:12:21 Are u addressing me as such? Wow, youre stupid. Fun fact, voting before technology advances voting fraud on a larger scale was more susceptible.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 19:13:38 LOL, you have posted nine times in the same thread in 23 minutes, I must really have burned you.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 19:14:03 Trump has figured out who the bad people are: "Made additional remarks on Charlottesville and realize once again that the #Fake News Media will never be satisfied...truly bad people!" ~ the lying/demented idiot child reading a teleprompter, after days of criticism, he can say words against white supremacists... but can't when using his own words on twitter... nor did he retweet when his daughter did but if that driver had been Mexican, Muslim, or CNN then you'd have had fast and furious tweets
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 19:19:25 Now you are trying to divert facts on my frequency of posting? Is that how sad and pathetic youve gotten? Is that posts made supporting facts is upsettinf you so much that you continue to post lies?
Wrath of Orion Member	Mon Aug 14 19:25:22 And yet again, Retard Rod makes claims without a single shred of evidence. Typical.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 19:31:03 Opined. Damned foreigners.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 19:32:22 Proof rod....proof.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 19:51:18 Look up opined.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 19:56:55 Let's get back to the subject. Does it make you happy?
Dukhat Member	Mon Aug 14 19:57:53 Rod is so fucking stupid. If only that white supremacist had run him over instead of that innocent girl.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 20:01:28 I was a tad out of range fool. Pick up a geography book. Or at least a map if you can read one.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 20:12:18 Poor hot rod....still in denial and hates facts.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 20:16:41 You too.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 20:23:45 Lol poor guy.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Aug 14 20:27:24 You are so inept and stupid that you have to steal my insults and reflect then back at me. Loser.
Trolly McSerious Member	Mon Aug 14 20:45:26 Lol poor guy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Aug 14 22:04:14 2 more down... Intel & Under Armour CEOs quit the president's council
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Aug 15 03:21:33 Let them. If they are that stupid and/or thin skinned they probably have nothing to contribute anyway.
Trolly Member	Tue Aug 15 05:53:16 Yeah, i mean support groups and standing against a weak president that took a few days to denounce specific groups that preaches intolerance is by far too thin skinned. Or has something the President doesnt......that would be principles.
Cold Rod Member	Tue Aug 15 05:54:03 Cuckserves once again show their stupidity.
The Politician Member	Tue Aug 15 06:15:37 Aeros, why do you not get so upset when Civil Rights Movement icons and statues get desecrated or vandalized?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Aug 15 10:52:57 "For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!" ~our great leader! and another one drops out: Scott Paul of Alliance for American Manufacturing
Rugian Member	Tue Aug 15 10:59:50 CEOs dropping out is completely pathetic, as is the Establishment Media's obsession with smearing Trump over Charlottsville. You keep complaining about what you perceive to be Trump's immaturity, but the biggest children here are the ones who have been in perpetual meltdown mode since November.
Cold Rod Member	Tue Aug 15 11:20:19 You heard it here first folks it's the media's fault for Trump's tincompetence.
Rugian Member	Tue Aug 15 11:22:54 What incompetence? Taking more than thirty minutes to condemn an event where both sides were accusing the other of engaging in violence? Holy fuck, impeach this idiot!
Cold Rod Member	Tue Aug 15 11:25:02 That's right he still learning to be president because he's never been in politics before. Just give him time he haven't give him enough chances to prove himself. Look over his lack of leadership skills.
Rugian Member	Tue Aug 15 11:27:04 For someone who almost assuredly has spent his entire adult life whining about how Fox News presents a distorted view about politics and uses inflammatory rhetoric to drive its viewers into a frenzy, you sure seem to be unable to see how Establishment Media does the exact same thing under Trump, only on a much larger scale.
Cold Rod Member	Tue Aug 15 11:28:30 Once again it's the media's fault for Trump's and competencies duly noted you made your point.
Rugian Member	Tue Aug 15 11:36:43 And once again, what exactly was so incompetent about Trump's response that caused the media and CEOs to go into four days of hysterics?
Cold Rod Member	Tue Aug 15 11:39:17 His incapability to call out the attacks for what they were and mulling it over for 48 hours because he didn't want to 'disappoint' his base. And the list goes on in regards to his Presidency since before he took the oath. But I am sure you will find every excuse for him like you are doing now. "It's the media's fault" narrative that you are going with right now.
Rugian Member	Tue Aug 15 11:42:13 Yeah, it's not like what exactly happened in Charlottsville was unclear or that Antifa arguably drove the other side to violence. And never mind that Trump did call those racists out, he waited a whopping day before doing so. Again, impeach the bastard.
Cold Rod Member	Tue Aug 15 12:14:55 Two days to think of a response...he was too scared to disturb the 'base'.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Aug 15 13:38:53 #5 drops out (Walmart CEO) the people/institutions Trump chooses to insult (which he does on a regular basis) do not include Russia or Nazis also why would you want to associate with a guy who attacks you if you leave
Forwyn Member	Tue Aug 15 14:07:50 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The Third Reich Member	Tue Aug 15 14:10:34 Traitors to the race! REEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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