Utopia Talk / Politics / Anti-semitism of the left

Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 25 05:13:35 Sweden again astonishes, by out hating the right. Muslims still reign supreme though. Page 31 http://kan...3%20Antisemitisms%20160608.pdf
pillz Member	Sun Jun 25 09:54:47 Even leftists have some sense
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 25 09:59:49 The Z in pillZ is for NaZi.
hood Member	Sun Jun 25 10:28:48 Pillz has hated anyone better than him for a while. This shouldn't be surprising.
Paramount Member	Sun Jun 25 10:33:57 I remember when NimnaZio was yelling "Death to Israel", in CAPS, on this forum every other day a couple of years ago :) And no I'm not gonna click that link and read a PDF from an infected Israeli server. If u want my comments u have to paste that text into this thread.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 25 10:41:58 "a couple of years ago" You have a poor memory, it might have been no more than a couple of months ago I wrote "marg bar Esrael". Which is farsi for death to Israel. I differentiate between the country of Israel and Jews. It is a tongue in cheek expression. Partly displaying a negative view on something Israel may have done and partly to lampoon anti-semites such as yourself.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 25 10:47:01 >>If u want my comments u have to paste that text into this thread.<< You can sit on the bench for this one.
Paramount Member	Sun Jun 25 10:49:14 But criticism of Israel or Zionism is the new anti-semistism. "no more than a couple of months ago I wrote "marg bar Esrael" I must have missed that. Or I saw it but didn't know what it meant.
Pillz Member	Sun Jun 25 14:50:55 Hood - I've been a staunch opponent of the Zionists since the beginning. Jews in general too.
hood Member	Sun Jun 25 15:42:19 "Jews in general too." Yes, as I said, you've hated anyone better than you for a while.
Pillz Member	Sun Jun 25 15:53:48 Alrighty jewboy
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 25 15:54:47 Antisemitism is an odd position that transcends right or left political beliefs.
Pillz Member	Sun Jun 25 16:19:10 The founders of zionism and prominent Jewish thinkers of the late 19th and early 20th century were also anti semites and encouraged it to varying degrees over time, because they wanted a Zionist Jewish state. Jews are not a religious group and not a national one, but a rodent scourge on the earth.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 25 16:59:15 It's pretty infantile to genuinely believe an entire sect of people are a rodent scourge. I mean I get it, it's the anonymous internet and you can write all the naughty things you wouldn't dare say aloud to a group of people, but really man, grow up.
Pillz Member	Sun Jun 25 17:00:50 I'm not in the business of making exceptions. Jews are a problem, and they wouldn't be if all of them were round up and gassed. It isn't at all unfortunate in my opinion that some people in the larger collective might not deserve it. Needs of the many.
hood Member	Sun Jun 25 17:12:40 Someone should report pillz here. I'm pretty sure Canada has UK levels of intolerance to free speech. Maybe some time to calm down and realize how retarded he is would do him good.
Pillz Member	Sun Jun 25 19:39:08 Jews trying to control thoughts and speech? Wow so surprised.
hood Member	Sun Jun 25 19:43:35 More like weak, useless people who are also potentially genocidal shouldn't be allowed to just go about their lives uninterrupted. That's how you turn into a jihadist muslim.
Pillz Member	Sun Jun 25 19:46:41 Is that the new Jewish narrative? That antisemites are flocking to take up jihad because they hate Jews?
hood Member	Sun Jun 25 19:47:39 Do I sound like I speak for all jews? I'm making fun of a moron by comparing him to those he perceives as scum. Don't get all touchy here, bro.
Canadian Member	Sun Jun 25 23:41:31 "Pillz Member Sun Jun 25 17:00:50 I'm not in the business of making exceptions. Jews are a problem, and they wouldn't be if all of them were round up and gassed." "hood Member Sun Jun 25 17:12:40 Someone should report pillz here. I'm pretty sure Canada has UK levels of intolerance to free speech." - http://law...ng/acts/C-46/page-72.html#h-93
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 00:16:32 I think it is quaint, we have an actual by the book Nazi! It requires a special person to take on an ideology that was bombed out of fashion 70 years ago.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 00:19:08 And so Pillz has managed to take the focus off of the Lefts antisemitism back to the Right. Tsk tsk tsk...
Pillz Member	Mon Jun 26 00:28:35 Only Nazis I see in this thread are the Canadian government.
Pillz Member	Mon Jun 26 00:29:18 As I said, many prominent Jewish figures were anti semites, doesn't mean they were also Nazis.
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 26 00:34:15 I think you are being incredibly dry with our sarcasm, but on the surface you are calling for the extinction of the Jewish people, which is very Naziesqe.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 00:36:14 Yes, but can't the left have it's day pillz? Must you take all the antisemitic lime light?
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 26 00:37:21 Your* sarcasm. I really hate the autospell update android did a few weeks ago.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 00:39:02 Turn that shit off! I rather stand for my poor motor skills and bad grammer!
hood Member	Mon Jun 26 00:41:11 "Your* sarcasm. I really hate the autospell update android did a few weeks ago." Google has been fucking up autocorrect for like 3 months now. It's horrible. "Only Nazis I see in this thread are the Canadian government." Nah, the Canadian Government aren't nazis. Just freedom hating tards. You, on the other hand, have a maximum of 5 years jail time waiting for you. For being a Nazi.
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 26 00:41:17 Honestly I might do that. It feels like they took a step backwards. Correctly spelled words are overridden for what I can only surmise to be more often used words. But if I were to take it off I'd have had to fix a dozen words in this post. Devil you know scenario.
pillz Member	Mon Jun 26 01:24:44 Canada lets jihadists leave on peace bond. It isn't about freedom, it's about control. Because they're nazis, like modern Zionists are not dissimilar from nazis. Read some early Zionist literature and you'd probably call them nazis despite the fact they predate Hilter a half century. They concluded that jews were the problem, and that their presence in society was the only catalyst necessary for persecution and discrimination to start. So they proposed the creation of a Jewish state, in complete opposition to over 1500 years of Jewish tradition, to segregate the jews.
Paramount Member	Mon Jun 26 06:07:34 "Jews are a problem, and they wouldn't be if all of them were round up and gassed." Sounds like pillz was only expressing his opinion and not actually proposing or calling for the extinction of jews.
Paramount Member	Mon Jun 26 06:10:04 So Nim posted a PDF, but no one cared about the content of it or is discussing it. lol, thread fail.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 06:34:38 There is nothing to discuss paramount. We have established that the left is a bigger threat to civil order through their terror and to Jews via their hate, than the right. The only one who may disagree would be you and you disqualified yourself by not reading it. Being the jew hating terrorist commie you know your kind too well. I was merely establishing the facts so that this thread can be referenced if you or anyone else whine about "far-right terror or racism". Da lulz iz on you nigga :)
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 07:54:13 Pillz You can also read things in that vein uttered by slaves in. Doesn't bring merit to the arguments. Criticizing Israel and zionism and Judaism based on secular/atheist POV on the one hand from genocidal Jew hatred on the other. No doubt those borders have become murky and muddied no thanks to the pro Israel lobby, their work made that much easier by, at best, careless trolling by people like yourself.
hood Member	Mon Jun 26 08:03:44 Do you actually think pillz is trolling though?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 09:23:28 Together with all the other racist things he says it is difficult for me to convince myself he is just trolling. So no, not really.
Paramount Member	Mon Jun 26 12:33:41 I don't know what you want to say with this thread. That there is anti-semitism in the Left? So the gist of your story is that anti-semitism/racism is universal? It exist in the Right, Centre, and Left. Who would have thought? :) When you say that the Left is a bigger to threat to Jews than the Right is – I think you are outside and bicycling. There is a difference between the Left and the Right. The Left (and Centre) does not want to kill/exterminate Jews. I think that is something that the Right is more easy with. Maybe you have missed how the Right generally wants to kill people. Muslims, Jews, Negroes, Leftists, etc. If the Right starts to kill Jews again, who will be there for the Jews? Yeah nigga, the Left will. The Leftist extremist terrorists who defeated Hitler in the 40's will be there again to stand up for human rights and people who are being oppressed and killed. The Left's beef with Israel, or Jews if you will, is the way that they treat Palestinians. Israel's disrespect of international laws, Israel's human rights violatations, the occupation, injustices, etc and so on. Israel gets away with this with impunity when other countries are facing sanctions, bombing campaigns and invasions for similar and smaller crimes. This is why the Left "hates" Israel. The injustices. Maybe you have also missed that it was a long time ago since Israel was a liberal democracy. Israel is governed by the ultra-right. Left and Right tend to hate each other also. Is this anti-semitism? Rofl And no, I don't consider myself a leftist. But if fighting injustices, standing up for human rights, for people who are being oppressed and for people who has no rights – if this is Leftism, then yeah I'm a Leftist.
Pillz Member	Mon Jun 26 12:36:29 "Do you actually think pillz is trolling though?" To great success, although if the use of the word jew in every post after you took a jab didn't give it away any you may suffer from perpetual victim syndrome.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 12:49:51 "I don't know what you want to say with this thread. That there is anti-semitism in the Left?" That is it WORSE in the left, the same left that takes every opportunity to talk about the "far-right's" xenophobia and make remind us of Nazi Germany when someone sneezes with too many Zs. Ever vigilant hypocrisy. >>If the Right starts to kill Jews again, who will be there for the Jews? Yeah nigga, the Left will << I think both the left and the right are fragmented enough to not end up in a place where the "battle for the Jews" is split along the traditional left/right political axis. I don't agree with that outlook at all. The point of this thread and the terror thread is to provide some much needed nuance to the type of destructive and absurd rhetoric the left has engaged in, like this one: "Right generally wants to kill people. Muslims, Jews, Negroes, Leftists" >>The Left's beef with Israel<< Their beef is my beef, my nigguh. That aint no excuse for obsessing in conspiracy theories, with the Mossad lurking in every shadow, like you do. No sense in you niggaz! >>Israel gets away with this with impunity<< Fuck Israel, she is a bitch made ass nigga. But you commies have a blind spot for the violent thugs in your own hood, be they redsocks or Islamists. As much as you like to point out the dirt under other peoples beds, you are not ready to clean up yo own shit. Get yo own house in order FIRST, my nigga. 'mic drop
TJ Member	Mon Jun 26 13:22:00 _> Nim: The point of this thread and the terror thread is to provide some much needed nuance to the type of destructive and absurd rhetoric the left has engaged in. Ever vigilant hypocrisy. ----------------------------------------------- I couldn't have said it better. Bravo!
hood Member	Mon Jun 26 13:26:09 "To great success, although if the use of the word jew in every post after you took a jab didn't give it away any you may suffer from perpetual victim syndrome." Why would I be offended by you calling me Jew?
Asgard Member	Mon Jun 26 13:26:42 My, my. An article dedicated to Paramount. He must feel so proud.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 14:19:52 "Maybe you have also missed that it was a long time ago since Israel was a liberal democracy." What ever coherent criticism you have of Israel, there is a 90% chance that I said it before you did and articulated it far better. I was the one telling the folks that thought Israel got an unfair treatment (relative to Iran, Kazakhstan, Morocco etc), that if Israel want's to be considered a civilized country it needed to rise to a higher standard than third world shit dictatorships. I am as critical as Israel as reason allows. I question the entire idea of a country created around one religion. Though if there ever were arguments to be made for such a country it would be for Jews. I also recognize the impossible adversary Israel has in the Muslims of the ME and their unwillingness to compromise. Israel shouldn't have been created, but it has earned the right to exist.
Paramount Member	Mon Jun 26 14:48:15 "I also recognize the impossible adversary Israel has in the Muslims of the ME and their unwillingness to compromise." The Arab's unwillingness to compromise? 1. Arafat and the Palestinians was/is willing to give up some 50% of Palestine. Does the Palestinians need to compromise on the compromise? 2. In 2002 the entire Arab world, the Arab League, offered Israel peace, normal relations, and to recognize Israel, if Israel withdrew to 67 lines. Israel rejected peace then, and again in 2014 when Kerry mediated, because Israel is not willing to compromise. The Palestinians, the Arab world, the USA, the EU, the entire world has tried. But Israel is not interested. The only thing that remains now is sanctions. And eventually a bombing campaign and invasion of Israel. Asgard, have you received your EU (Hungarian) citizenship yet?
Asgard Member	Mon Jun 26 14:50:33 It is the other way around. Israel had the right to exist, but lost it ever since it institutionalized occupation and made it more important than it's democracy and pluralism upon which it was founded. You are forgetting what the deal was with the British. Jews get the part where Jews live, and Arabs get the part whre Arabs live. The arabs rejected it and said "all of it is ours". Not the Jews. They also called 5 Arab countries to their aid in their refusal through war. But, you may look at it at whatever way you want. Oh, by the way, you may presume to not hate Jews but simply hate Israel. But keep in mind that upon Israel's creation, all the Arab countries expelled their jewish population to israel (a country they want to destroy...). It is they who make the Israel = Jews = Israel = Jews comparison a reality.
Asgard Member	Mon Jun 26 14:50:46 @Nimi
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 15:11:55 I view illegal as against better judgement and morals, now the one constructed by colonial powers. I think Israel has through survival of the Jewish people and of Israel against the 5 countries that attacked her and by contribution human achievement has earned the right to exist. What you say is true, it has been eroded with the occupation. Israel's future may even be irreparably damaged because of irresponsible policies. But I don't know that I hate Israel, Asgard. I feel bad for people like you who have to leave your homes and family, Jew or Arab. I can empathize with you better than anyone else on this board on that matter.
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 26 15:18:44 Fuck off nim, I empathize more.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 15:23:28 It is not because of some superior skills and sense of morality obamie, it is because I have actually experience it myself.
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 26 15:24:26 Well here I was trying to do a joke and nim was having none of it.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 15:28:06 I did not want this to become a contest about who can cry the most and "feel" stuff. I had to put my foot down!
Paramount Member	Mon Jun 26 15:30:23 So I guess Asgard has not received a EU citizenship yet. Maybe the EU does not want him.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 26 15:30:28 I know how you feel about rom coms and I am know to cry over war movies. We get into a empathy contest and there would be no end to the gayness. No. End.
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