Utopia Talk / Politics / Cosby got away with it

Dukhat Member	Sat Jun 17 15:28:00 Jello Pudding Pops and Xmas sweaters for everyone!
McKobb Member	Sat Jun 17 16:11:13 http://s-m...7d54c3a1b1bbc79ec53376681c.jpg
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 17 16:13:48 i await the jury split... which will probably be racist... or sexist
obaminated Member	Sat Jun 17 16:20:23 Eh, these sort of cases are not easily judged. Zero physical evidence, all he said she said with women coming out of the woodwork with stories decades old, all after a rich dude.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jun 17 16:27:22 Doesn't matter if he get away with it legally, his career is over, though he is like 120 years old, but his legacy is destroyed. This will be the lasting memory of Bill Cosby for a long long time. The times have changed, I doubt we will be as forgiving to him as we where with Polanski.
obaminated Member	Sat Jun 17 16:30:22 It was a mistrial and it really didn't get that much attention. Give it a few years and it'll be similar to Kobe.
Mexicantardnado Member	Sat Jun 17 17:10:00 I raped someone once. - mtard
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jun 17 17:16:44 Kobe didn't have 50(??) people accusing him of rape and if I remember correctly, he was aquitted? I remember there being evidence that the girl was lying. Anyway Kobe was in his prime and could repair the damage of cheating. This is not going away. Cosby will die as the roofie rapist.
murder Member	Sat Jun 17 17:39:35 "It was a mistrial and it really didn't get that much attention. Give it a few years and it'll be similar to Kobe." 1. Kobe didn't have 20 women accusing him. 2. Kobe didn't make a living holding himself up as a role model and moral authority.
smart dude Member	Sat Jun 17 22:02:49 Kobe wasn't acquitted, the case was dropped because the lying bitch refused to testify. Not even in the same ballpark as the Cosby situation.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Sat Jun 17 22:18:26 Holy shit I forgot. The motherfucker confessed. http://www...-dismissal-Accuser-2728673.php "I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members, and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle, Colo. Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did."
smart dude Member	Sat Jun 17 22:22:15 He didn't admit shit. Obviously he fucked the bitch. Nobody disputes that. He released some canned bullshit lawyer-written statement as part of his settlement deal for the lawsuit.
Turtle Crawler Admin	Sat Jun 17 22:33:27 I remember Tyson having body guards that would tell the women "if you follow him in there, he WILL have sex with you".
obaminated Member	Sat Jun 17 22:59:44 Let's cut through the shit here, if a woman goes into a hotel room with a wealthy man they know exactly why they are there. Anyone who claims rape without bruises/cuts is full of shit. And even those with bruises may have been into a bit of rough sex.
obaminated Member	Sat Jun 17 23:02:01 The women who go into those rooms do so under the hope that they'll either get pregnant or get a sugar daddy. When neither happens they tend to scream rape and then settle out of court for money.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 17 23:08:37 pretty sure some of them seemed like respectable women who aren't looking for money & Cosby admitted giving some drugs... but his lawyer told him not to answer if he ever did it without their knowledge... so the answer is 'yes'
obaminated Member	Sat Jun 17 23:21:37 In his defense, he was horny.
hood Member	Sat Jun 17 23:57:13 The odds of my "mt is a rapist" jokes being accurate rise with every passing day.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 01:30:59 I'm making a joke hood. Rape is bad. I don't know anything about this situation. I simply know the industry and that's where my cynical humor about underage wannabes screwing around to get roles and attention comes from. Prior to my experience I wasn't such a cynic. But it's a thing. People want fame and lots of famous people get offered sex from poorly raised underage people all the time.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 01:32:11 Bryan singer screws around with 15 year old boys on the regular. The boys don't complain because they tend to cast in projects he produces. Its gross but you can't be a white knight about it.
hood Member	Sun Jun 18 04:26:54 And now you're casually talking about pedophilia... It's pretty much all but confirmed at this point.
Victim Member	Sun Jun 18 05:09:19 http://www...ault-case-170618052259762.html Cosby's depositions in that case, however, were unsealed by a federal judge in 2015, revealing his admissions that he had given sedatives to young women in the 1970s.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 06:02:30 Obaminated, remember that you are "living" in LA/Hollywood, it is a strange strange place full of strange, strange people all out to get discovered and famous. It is not a healthy place.
mexicantardnado Member	Sun Jun 18 06:22:58 "Anyone who claims rape without bruises/cuts is full of shit. " I'm so retarded I think only rape victims get bruises and cuts.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 06:29:11 The Kobe girl had a cut and bled. So accordingly Kobe was guilty of rape. And any woman who gets raped and "cooperates" to not get further injury is not raped. You probably need to rethink your hypothesis and get the fuck out of LA.
Forwyn Member	Sun Jun 18 08:40:32 Hoping glorious leader Kim Jong-un bypasses Hawaii and goes straight for LA with his mighty nuclear javelins. Imagine how many pedos and degenerates the world would be ridden of.
zavyx Member	Sun Jun 18 09:13:14 I think we've arrived at a point in history now, when it should be glaringly obvious to all of us, that when a man and a woman are spending time together, the man has to come right out and say it "I fully expect you to lay down and spread your legs for me tonight, thats what I'm here for" so then the woman can decide if she's going to do that, or leave. No more of this "I got drunk and didn't know what he was doing to me" or "I had no idea he wanted to stick his dick into me" or "If I knew that men wanted sex, I would have become a nun"
Rugian Member	Sun Jun 18 09:14:02 Objectively speaking, he'd make the greatest positive contribution to the world in decades. Granted, we'd still have to glass his country and mount his head on a spike afterwards, but deep down we'd appreciate what he did for us.
Rugian Member	Sun Jun 18 09:14:19 @Forwyn
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 11:37:56 Well, if I have a say, is prefer Los Angeles to not get nuked.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 14:00:28 I don't know Rugian, if he raped 1 girl, maybe 2. But 20? TWENTY? IF that even is the real number? I would have a hard time watching any of his shit now and not see an endless stream of passed out drugged up girls getting raped.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 14:00:56 Just don't let LA nuke you.
zavyx Member	Sun Jun 18 14:18:47 hold on a cotton pickin second now. 20 females decided to spend time with a famous wealthy man, but not one of them had considered the possibility of actually engaging in consensual sex with him? they were all so star struck and naive that it never occurred to them, he may in fact be a typically horny old bugger who is looking to get some action tonight. If they were asked the question 'what did you think was going to happen that night' how would they explain their perceptions of his expectations? <<<oh he's bill cosby, he's going to tell me some jokes, solve all my psychological issues, pay for dinner, then sponsor me to travel to new york so I can attend deportment and elocution lessons, after all thats what wealthy famous men do these days>>>. were any of those women retarded, or were they excommunicated nuns, with no real understanding of what an erection does.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 15:47:53 60 woemn by the way is the most recent number I have read.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 15:57:59 The lunatics point still stands.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 16:05:03 http://www...gal-meaning-of-the-cosby-trial
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 16:08:13 I love that the article has zero ambiguity of its leanings. The women accusing Cosby of assault are his victims, not alleged victims.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 16:13:21 It was a fairly balanced analysis of the limitations of the judicial system and reasonable doubt. I think your brain may be damaged from hanging around the famous rapist in Hollywood.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 16:15:15 Did you even read the entire article? "But it would be wrong to take away from the hung jury the message that sexual-assault victims are widely and simply disbelieved. The jury result instead reflects exactly the conflict, and ambivalence, we have between honorable legal principles that for good reason structurally bias criminal trials against conviction, and our cherished ideal that sexual-assault victims should be believed and vindicated."
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 16:25:04 2pac 1 girl. Ok Pac, keep spitting them rhymes. Kobe 1 girl. Ok Kobe, keep shooting them hoops. Tyson 1 girl. Ok Mike, keep smashing them heads. Polanski 1 girl. Ok Roman, keep making those movies. Cosby 60 girls. Ok Bill... wait 60? GUILTY!
hood Member	Sun Jun 18 16:27:12 Mt is the reason retarded people going on about rape culture believe they are correct.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 16:44:54 Stop feeding the retards Obaminated!
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 17:02:52 Well. I'm sorry that I live in the real world. Where women who hang around rich and famous men tend to know exactly what's going to happen when they go to hotel rooms and where rich and famous men don't need to drug women who freely enter their hotel rooms. The jury couldn't convict because the story these women told was silly.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 17:04:20 And I for one am glad we live in a society where we do take accusations of rape with an open mind. Rather than automatically assume the accuser is being truthful. And 60 liars saying the same lie doesn't make that lie the truth.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 18 17:07:14 So not only did you not read the entire story, you also did not understand why the (split) jury didn't convict on the grounds of reasonable doubt? I am reminded now of how you EARNED the name Obaminated. I don't think you are a malevolent person, but my god you are stupid.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 17:11:30 I got the name because I lost a bet. Nothing to do with whether I've read an op ed from the new Yorker or not. And I'm sorry that you think an incredibly bias editorial is "a fairly balanced analysis". I don't and didn't bother reading all of it.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 17:17:35 Rofl, having read a relatively factual article on the case from NOLA, it makes the rape accusation more absurd. She was raped she claimed, told police inconsistent dates and places, called Cosby over 50 times. Oh and he drugged her with benadryl? Yeah, it's similar to how I'm somehow a rapist because I don't jump on the pitchfork bandwagon. This woman is full of shit.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 17:28:41 The jury didn't convict him because there is zero physical evidence and because the accuser has a sketchy story. Maybe he did rape her, but she can't prove it and it does suck that if it was a regular man in Cosbys position he would go bankrupt proving his innocence.
hood Member	Sun Jun 18 21:53:00 mt has definitely raped a woman. He just doesn't realize it.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 22:19:45 And neither does the woman, apparently. Just hood and other betas who claim something is rape when neither party involved feels it is rape... until money is involved. Hood probably still thinks the duke lacrosse team raped that bitch.
hood Member	Sun Jun 18 22:22:53 Women don't generally realize they're being raped if they're unconscious. Are you a junior cosby or something?
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 22:27:32 Rofl. Hood you dumbass. Now you are saying women who get drugged dont wake up and realize they've been raped? Do you have any idea how the female body functions?
hood Member	Sun Jun 18 22:35:01 Do you have any idea how tense works? Seriously, you're legit Seb levels of retarded here.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 18 22:38:35 By your idiotic statements, no drugged woman would be capable of calling rape. You would make a horrible lawyer. You are unintentionally discounting the woman's voice in a rape accusation. And don't bring up seb to distract for your idiocy. You literally claim women don't realize they've been raped when they get drugged. And you call me a rapist. You sound like you've got experience, you freak.
hood Member	Sun Jun 18 23:31:34 "You literally claim women don't realize they've been raped" No. "Women don't generally realize they're being raped" See the difference? "they've been" vs. "they're being"? Like I said, do you have any idea how tense works? If a woman is unconscious during the act of being raped, she is not going to know what is happening. Because she's fucking unconscious. You're seb. You don't understand what people say and because you have some unrealistic sense of worth, you just assign meanings haphazardly instead of admit you didn't have a clue what was going on. Congrats, mexicanseb.
hood Member	Sun Jun 18 23:34:55 But at least you aren't defending america's friendliest rapist anymore. Small victories, eh?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Jun 19 01:09:42 "mexicanseb" lol :)
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 19 01:13:46 Mexicanseb is funny but it should be mexiseb. You clearly aren't a creative.
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 19 01:15:16 Anyways, you are arguing in the vein you always do. No one was talking about women knowing or not knowing they are being raped during the fact. You bring out this tangential issue and pretend like it matters. We are talking about being accused of rape.
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 19 01:15:58 Also, women who aren't drugged tend to know they are being raped. You are an idiot.
obaminated Member	Mon Jun 19 01:20:15 "Women don't generally realize they're being raped" - confessions from hood
mexicantardnado Member	Mon Jun 19 05:07:49 I am so retarded that even though I speak English, I still don't understand it.
hood Member	Mon Jun 19 07:49:13 I mean, if we're being creative, it should be sebxican. Not mexiseb. "You bring out this tangential issue and pretend like it matters." What? I was calling you a rapist and asking if you had adopted Bill Cosby's methods. That isn't at all related to the topic of Cosby's trial and guilt. Like, no relation. So I don't know what you mean by tangential issue here, I was fully off subject. And then you demonstrated a complete lack of reading comprehension. Again, off subject of Bill Cosby's trial and guilt, but something worth discussing.
hood Member	Mon Jun 19 07:50:11 "Also, women who aren't drugged tend to know they are being raped. You are an idiot." Also, what was that about tangential arguments and pretending they matter?
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