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Paramount Member	Thu Apr 20 07:50:53 MS-13's motto is "kill, rape, control" This hispanic gang wants to control the world, by killing and raping people. From da article: 'Kill, rape, control' Recent high-profile cases linked to the gang include the murder of two female high-school students who were attacked with a machete and baseball bat as they walked through their neighbourhood in New York last month - a revenge attack over a minor dispute, according to police The same month, two alleged members of the gang in Houston, Texas were charged with kidnapping three teenage girls, holding them hostage and raping them before shooting one dead on the side of the road. Miguel Alvarez-Flores, 22, and Diego Hernandez-Rivera, 18, laughed and waved at the cameras during their court appearance. Blaming Obama Mr Trump and Mr Sessions have pointed the finger at former President Barack Obama over the spread of MS-13, alleging that his open-door immigration policies fuelled its growth. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39645640 Man, these terrorists are like ISIS. They rape and hack people to death. Trump can blame Obama all he wants, but the fact is that Trump is the president and what is Trump gonna do about it?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 20 08:55:32 He is already doing it. He has deported over 27,000 in less three months and many of them are from this gang.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 20 09:22:15 27,000 in less three months would be way lower than under Obama (if accurate, not sure where you got that #) & "many of them are from this gang" is the kind of thing Trump makes up without any evidence whatsoever... much like every claim he states
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 20 10:25:14 Obama had those turned back at the border to be counted as 'deportees'. That is not a deportation. How many times do you have to be instructed on that point?
patom Member	Thu Apr 20 10:59:09 How many meat packing and other low skilled plants that employ large numbers of illegals have been raided since Trump took office? Probably the same as Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan.
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 20 11:06:37 Really glad sanctuary cities exist to protect these criminals.
Allahuakbar Member	Thu Apr 20 11:08:02 Deport them to Syria.
Aeros Member	Thu Apr 20 11:19:59 Its possible trump may designate the gang a terrorist entity. Which would give him broad powers to deal with it both at home and abroad. Would also create massive legal minefield, because being a part of the group would constitute providing material support for a terrorist entity. Could even open the door to potential treason charges as well. More broadly, it would also give Trump the ability to pursue the group militarily in other countries.
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 20 13:08:59 They aren't gonna declare a criminal enterprise a terrorist organization, aeros.
Aeros Member	Thu Apr 20 17:38:45 http://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/854908065472229376 Sessions: MS-13 gang could be labeled a terrorist organization
Aeros Member	Thu Apr 20 17:39:32 Wrong link http://www...alvador-gang-terrorists-237345
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 20 17:56:30 That'd be a pretty big step in a dangerous direction.
Hrothgar Member	Thu Apr 20 23:10:15 Does that mean we could drone strike them on our own territory!? Yay??
Aeros Member	Thu Apr 20 23:18:19 If congress gave him blanket war powers over ms13....yes. yes he could. So yeah, labeling a street gang a terrorist group would be a dangerous escalation in federal power.
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