Utopia Talk / Politics / MOAB used on IS in Afgahnistan

Hrothgar Member	Thu Apr 13 13:44:12 http://www...ccording-to-reports-2017-04-13 Have they ever dropped one of these before outside of testing?
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 13 13:46:22 Very irresponsible. How many civilians, women and children did the US kill now?
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 13:55:33 "Have they ever dropped one of these before outside of testing?" No.
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 13:56:35 "Very irresponsible. How many civilians, women and children did the US kill now?" I'd be surprised if they dropped it on anyone. More likely it was done to intimidate the locals so they'd stop supporting the enemy.
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 13 13:57:55 IS in Afghanistan: "IS struggled to build a wide political base and the indigenous support it expected in Afghanistan. Instead, it made enemies of almost everyone, including the Afghan Taliban." "it has largely been eliminated from southern and western Afghanistan by the Afghan Taliban and military operations conducted by Afghan and US/Nato forces." "Estimates about IS's numerical strength inside Afghanistan vary, ranging from 1,000 to 5,000." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39031000 lol
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 13 13:59:14 So, who was really killed by the bomb? Goat herders?
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 13 14:46:22 Pretty spectacular display of power.
Average Ameriacn Member	Thu Apr 13 15:00:54 Trump is the coolest President ever!
Paramount Member	Thu Apr 13 15:02:12 Not even Hitler used these kind of weapons to kill people.
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 15:31:43 USA Today goes full retard ... http://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9UWNZxW0AEIcXD.jpg
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 15:39:47 "Not even Hitler used these kind of weapons to kill people." lol :o)
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 13 15:45:33 It's like an environmentally friendly low yield nuke.
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 16:01:25 An extremely low yield nuke. As in .011kt
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 16:02:28 It's more nuclear firecracker than nuclear bomb.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Apr 13 16:13:47 Lol usa today is dumbshits.
zavyx Member	Thu Apr 13 17:05:01 is there video? nothing makes my dick harder than seeing a MOAB go off!!!
zavyx Member	Thu Apr 13 17:07:28 afghani muslims are too stupid to have a war with anyone, they don't even know which side they're on - give them a machine gun, an opium pipe and some monkey bars to swing from, then they'll start shooting each other because they've got nothing better to do.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 13 20:06:25 It weighs 11 tons with 21,000 pounds of explosives in it. It explodes above ground and has a blast radius of one mile. The cloud rises 10,000 feet. ISIS was using a network of caves to move men and supplies back and forth between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The concussion from the bomb would have collapsed most of the caves. Anyone in them was either dead or trying to dig their way out.
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Apr 13 20:07:38 http://pbs...VwAAKYqa?format=jpg&name=large
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 13 20:11:03 He was wrong about a lot of things back then.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Thu Apr 13 20:12:55 ^ hates trump.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 13 20:18:36 ^-Eats Shit
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Thu Apr 13 20:20:10 ^ not nice.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Apr 13 20:40:44 ^-True.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 13 21:20:37 "He was wrong about a lot of things back then." the hazards of being an ignorant bullshitter who never learns the details on anything... as he continues to be
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 21:39:22 "It explodes above ground and has a blast radius of one mile." Nowhere close to a mile. Not even a 1/3 of a mile.
pillz Member	Thu Apr 13 22:16:25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion#Background
pillz Member	Thu Apr 13 22:17:44 800 meters of destruction. Much more powerful than the MOAB, if murder's 0.011kt is accurate.
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 22:33:05 That's a different ball of wax. That thing flattened buildings out to 800m ... I'm working off the radius for 1 psi of overpressure, at which point the likelihood of significant injury is very low.
murder Member	Thu Apr 13 22:37:46 "if murder's 0.011kt is accurate" http://en....3/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast "Blast yield 11 tons TNT"
Sam Adams Member	Fri Apr 14 00:01:32 The math is indisputable. The defintion of "blast radius" is subjective, but once you define blast zone the math is definitive. Murder is correct. Pilz is also correct about that halifax ship. was a mighty blast, much closer to hiroshima than to moab. You are talking about a full frieghter with 1000s of tons of ammo.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Apr 14 10:03:18 http://twitter.com/armscontrolwonk/status/852587995718762496 Perspective on moab
murder Member	Fri Apr 14 10:45:43 More perspective on MOAB ... http://twitter.com/wellerstein/status/852658880022806528
Paramount Member	Fri Apr 14 11:30:42 http://youtu.be/CWqeohtJLgY
murder Member	Sun Apr 23 12:58:38 "Within a few hundred feet of the apparent blast site, leaves remained intact on trees, belying initial expectations that the explosion may have sent a destructive blast wave for up to a mile." http://www...anistan-usa-bomb-idUSKBN17P0HX
murder Member	Sun Apr 23 13:00:32 "No obvious crater or bodies were visible at the scene, according to the Reuters witness."
The Children Member	Sun Apr 23 13:05:43 so another failure?
murder Member	Sun Apr 23 13:21:46 Not necessarily. Odds are that bodies were taken away and disposed of by now ... if there were any. But personally I've always believed that this was dropped just to make a big bang and intimidate the locals and/or N.Korea, not to kill some terrorists.
The Children Member	Sun Apr 23 13:23:23 so it is nother failure.
murder Member	Sun Apr 23 13:32:13 Well it didn't seem to intimidate N.Korea, so if that was the goal ... yes, another failure. I have no idea if the locals were intimidated.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Apr 24 12:41:07 No crater and a relatively modest blast radius? Its almost like murder and sam predicted exactly that.
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