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Average Ameriacn
Member Sat Aug 06 14:46:16
Wow he really explains it all!

http://www...gh-media-gone-palin-trump-now/

Rush Limbaugh: ‘The Media Has Gone All Palin on Trump Now’

LIMBAUGH: Yes, my friends, it’s an interesting… (laughing) Take a look. I’m telling you as I was telling Mr. Snerdley this morning, “The media has gone all Palin on Trump now. They’ve gone all Palin.” Folks, there’s no doubt what is going on. The media is trying to take Donald Trump out. And I’ve told this story a number of times. Please indulge me as I tell it one more time, because there are new listeners, not just every day, there are new listeners every half hour on this program. We have the data to document that.

Back in 2008, I got conned into hosting a dinner party at my house, and there were some people there that I had not met before. But I had it on good authority that they were okay. So they showed up, and everything was fine — until we began to discuss the campaign. And two of the guests at the dinner suggested that it was time to throw Sarah Palin overboard. They claimed to be Republicans, and they were going to vote for McCain. But it was time to get rid of Palin. It might have been before… No, she had been chosen. She was the VP nominee.

Their point was, “Rush, you’re wasting your time trying to save her. The media has destroyed her. There’s no saving her. She’s done!” I said, “What? You mean we have to come up with nominees that the media approves and won’t destroy, and that’s the only hope we’ve got?” And one of these two guys said, “Well, essentially, yeah! If they can take anybody we nominate out, what good are they?” So I said, “At what point do you think it might be necessary to step in and start defending these people against these slanderous and libelous attacks?”

He said, “It’s pointless. If the media wants to take you out, they’re going to take you out. So we’ve got to move on. Besides, Rush, she’s an idiot anyway to let this happen.” They went on and on. So I got so mad, I walked out of my own dinner party. I think I had to fly out… Where was I going? I might have been flying to California for a golf trip. I forget which. But I left early, stormed out of there. Kathryn followed me out on the front porch, driveway, shaking. (laughing) Couldn’t believe what had just happened: I was leaving my own dinner party.

I’m telling you, I wonder how long it’s going to be… Well, it’s already happening, even before today. But we do have a number of Republicans — Meg Whitman being the most famous and noteworthy recently — who are suggesting not only is it time to throw Trump overboard and get rid of Trump, it’s time to sidle up to Hillary Clinton. But I’m telling you, there seem to be so many people on our side that are deeply affected by what the media does.

They still believe that the only way we can ever win is to have a nominee or a candidate for whatever election is up that the media doesn’t destroy. And, of course, I said, “Well, then if you get that kind of nominee that the media doesn’t want to destroy, they’re really not going to be that good.” Here’s an example: We have what is no doubt a hostage payment in violation of American policy, foreign policy, FBI policy. You name it. You don’t pay ransom! You just don’t do it. We did.

Obama’s denying it. He said (summarized), “There was nothing nefarious about this deal.” There wasn’t? There wasn’t anything nefarious? So the Iranians want $400 million; they have four or five of our sailors. They tell us they’ll release them when we pay up. But we can’t use US dollars because of sanctions — meaning to do this, we have to break the law, if we can’t use US dollars. So Obama then goes and arranges somehow to get $400 million from somewhere. Now, normally maybe there’s a… What do you call it? What do businesses call…? The petty cash drawer.

Maybe there’s a petty cash drawer in the White House that’s got a couple of billion in there, and Obama can use it in a discretionary way. (interruption) Yeah, “Obama stash.” Anyway, he comes up with $400 million, and then it’s in foreign currency. Some of it is Swiss Francs. Some of it is in Euros. I forget what other denominations or what other currencies are used, but it totals $400 million. We put it on a pallet. We put it on a plane. We fly the plane over there. The plane lands under cover of darkness.

The hostages are on the tarmac awaiting the arrival of that airplane and that cash before the Iranians will release them. One of the hostages was told, “You can’t leave here until that plane arrives.” The hostage says, “What plane?” “Never you mind,” the Iranians say. “But there’s a plane coming, it’s got some stuff on it, and until it gets here and until we offload the stuff on it, you can’t leave.” Well, the plane lands; they offload the pallet of $400 million, again under cover of darkness — and again, nobody knew it at the time.

You would think a prisoner-release program like this would be something that the Regime would be bragging about, as in, “Look at what we did! We got our hostages back! We got our hostages back and nobody died!” Yeah, and then people started saying, “It’s a ransom payment.” “No, no, no! It’s not ransom. In fact, it’s an advanced payment. We have a lot of deals going with Iran. In fact,” Josh Ernest, White House Press Secretary, said (paraphrased), “this is actually brilliant on Obama’s part. You know why? Because this could have been much more.

“This was an advanced payment for Iran on some of their infrastructure rebuilding.” I said, “You mean like the stimulus package that we had of close to a trillion dollars back in 2009 for the exact same reason? Rebuild our roads. Rebuild our bridges. Rebuild our schools. The fact is that none of that stimulus money went to any of those. Isn’t it amazing how often “infrastructure” is used to justify the expenditure of a lot of money that otherwise wouldn’t make any sense?

In this case, it happened to be Iranian infrastructure: Roads, bridges, schools, and so forth. Well, in the midst of all of this, Donald Trump claimed that he saw video of the cash on the pallet being unloaded. Now, we know that it happened. We know the cash arrived. We know the cash arrived under cover of darkness. We know that the Iranians accepted it. We know the Iranians called it “ransom”! We know we paid it. The White House is admitting we paid it. They’re just saying, “It wasn’t ransom.”

So we know an airplane with $400 million in cash currency landed in Iran, that that pallet was offloaded and given to the ayatollahs. We know that that happened! Trump says he saw a video of it. Turns out, he was mistaken. He saw a video of something on Fox News but it wasn’t this. What is the news today? What is the news? In the Drive-By Media, what is big story today? It is that Donald Trump lied about seeing a video of $400 million being paid as ransom to the Iranians for the release of hostages.

Trump tweeted it out. He’s since… I don’t know if he’s apologized or he’s admitted that he saw something else. He was mistaken in what he saw on Fox News. But regardless, we know that it happened. The big story of the day is Donald Trump mistaking a video on Fox News as the Obama plane delivering Obama’s $400 million in hard currency ransom. The big story is not Obama paying ransom for hostages, because the big story is Donald Trump mistakenly saying he saw a video.

The big story is not even Obama denying that it was ransom, even though it was. The big story is not Hillary and John Kerry and the press secretary all lying about it. They’ve all said, “It wasn’t ransom!” They’ve all said, “There’s nothing to see here.” They’ve all said, “It wasn’t nefarious.” But that wasn’t the big story. The big story is that Trump tweeted out that he actually saw a video of this happening. The big story is not that one of the hostages says that their plane didn’t take off until after the money plane had landed.

I mean, the hostage has reported that they were on a tarmac, they were ready to leave, and the Iranian strongmen said, “You can’t leave until the plane arrives.” “Why?” “Well, you just can’t. There’s a plane coming in here for us. It has something on it. And until we get that something off of it for us, you can’t leave.” That’s not the big story. The big story is Donald Trump saying he saw a video of all of this happening.

The big story is not Barack Obama using the plural “payments” at the Pentagon yesterday. What, payments? This was not ransom, but it was part of payments? Payments for what? Did Congress authorize these payments? Is this the $1.7 billion in total, and is this part of or in addition to the $150 billion that we have unfrozen for them? Regardless, that’s not the story. The big story is that Donald Trump claims to have seen a video of what we know happened.

The big story is not asking where Obama got the $400 million. The big story is not asking how Obama laundered the $400 million and turned it into Swiss and Euro currency. There seems to be no interest in any of that. The big story is that Donald Trump mistakenly saw a video of all of this happening. The big story is not that anybody else who found a way to launder money and use it this way, would have already been charged with something and maybe in jail. No, no, no! Of course not. That’s not the story. Don’t be ridiculous.

The big story is Donald Trump says he saw a video. By the way, I thought videos were the magical answer to everything. Videos explain what happened in Benghazi. Trump said he saw a video. Now the press insisted on saying, “There wasn’t a video! What’s he talking about?” In this case, there wasn’t a video, and Trump is an idiot for lying about it. Well, there wasn’t a video that caused whatever happened in Benghazi. There wasn’t a video that caused that. But the media didn’t care about that! They went along for the ride. “There was a video!”

The big story is not what every single American on foreign soil is now at risk for kidnapping because the Obama regime has paid ransom. That’s not a story. It’s not a factor. We’re not even warning anybody, “Be careful, you could be next,” because the big story is that Donald Trump said he saw a video of this all happening. We know it happened. And the big story is not the video on YouTube done by Iran to brag of the payment! There is a video. The Iranians have the video on YouTube bragging about the ransom they collected.

Trump, mistaking the video. That’s the big story of today and is offered as further evidence of why Trump is unfit to be president

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Aug 06 15:14:12

Trump admitted he saw a different video and mistook it for the Iran incident.

Obama has done just about everything he could get away with to help Iran even though they are the largest State supplier to terrorist.

The reason Iran wanted cash is because it is easier to finance terrorism. That is why Obama had to launder the dollars into European currencies.

Hell, I think he planed it that way from the git go. If he cared a whit about the hostages all he had to do was insist they be released before we sat down at the table.

This is just another case of Obama hating America.

Forwyn
Member Sat Aug 06 15:30:00
You know one of those "hostages" was a CIA operative, right?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Aug 06 15:42:38

I did not know that. I did not follow the case that closely.

Paramount
Member Sat Aug 06 15:52:43
"Obama has done just about everything he could get away with to help Iran even though they are the largest State supplier to terrorist."

That's just plain wrong. The US itself along with Israel are the largest state suppliers to terrorists.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Aug 06 16:24:05

Fuck off, you don't know what I'm talking about.

werewolf dictator
Member Sat Aug 06 16:26:03
'This is just another case of Obama hating America.'

lulz

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Aug 06 16:33:24

If he did not hate America then why would he give $400 Million in cash to Iran when they suspected that much of that cash will end up in terrorist hands. The White House admitted that much.

The money was ours and it was earmarked for the victims of terrorist.

It was not intended to be handed over to the terrorists to be used against us.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Aug 06 16:38:54

BTW, Iran has already kidnapped two or three US/Iran dual citizens.

How much are they going to cost us?

CrownRoyal
Member Sat Aug 06 16:39:24
"The money was ours and it was earmarked for the victims of terrorist. "

The money is Iranian money from 1970s, plus accrued interest. It was payment for American weapons, planes that shah made and US did not refund ( and never delivered weapons). The issue is separate from the nuclear deal, US lost in international court and has to return the money to Iran, Obama announced it last January. Other than that, you are right, bud

Paramount
Member Sat Aug 06 16:52:31
So if Obama is hating America, why don't you start an armed rebellion, Hot Rod? Are you a pussy?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Aug 06 18:38:03

cr, yeah. Right.

We just held onto the money for decades for shits and giggles.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Aug 06 18:47:02
the evil media argument falls apart when so many varied republicans also can't stand Trump and his antics

plus people like the CIA director who served both sides for decades and never picked a side before

patom
Member Sat Aug 06 18:52:21
Hot Rod, in case you haven't noticed. The relationship between the US and Iran hasn't been exactly rosy for the last 37 years. We have been doing our level best to hurt them financially for a long time now.

If you want to be pissed about something, why not be pissed with our politicians encouraging our manufacturers to pull up stakes and move to China or Vietnam?

CrownRoyal
Member Sat Aug 06 19:02:40
"yeah. Right.

We just held onto the money for decades for shits and giggles. "

Bingo. This is not "our money" as you said, Iranian money

"The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “

http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/

Aeros
Member Sat Aug 06 20:38:11
What CR said. It was Irans money, sitting in a frozen bank account, and international courts had already ordered it be returned.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Aug 06 23:34:17

"The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment.

Yes, because it rightfully belonged to Iran's victims. It still does.

Or did before Obama stole it.

He and his down line should be made responsible until it is repaid.

The Patriot
Member Sun Aug 07 07:10:03
Prove that Obama himself stole it. Or STFU making outrageous claims. Thanks.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sun Aug 07 09:15:36

Better yet, tell us where he got the authority to give those funds to Iran?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sun Aug 07 09:37:54

BTW, that transfer would not have been made without Obama's express approval. That is proven by his defense of the transaction.

Hrothgar
Member Sun Aug 07 13:17:45
Read again, since you flunked the first time:

"The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “

http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/

And Obama didn't want to give it back. Just figured it was not worth fighting in international courts any longer since there are bigger fish to fry than a relatively paltry 400 million. On to of this Obama managed to find a way to get out of the 10 BILLION that Iran wanted, and sucker them into taking just the 400 million in cash.

Full disclosure, I'm just throwing the word Obama around where administration should be used, because well, it's what we do when we don't like someone in office. Just assign their name to every damn thing.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sun Aug 07 13:27:24

Then why did the hostages have to wait all night for the 'other' plane to land before they could leave?

CrownRoyal
Member Sun Aug 07 14:16:16
http://www...eneral/onthisday/big/1125.html

This is how you pay Iran to improve ties and release hostages, I think Rod insists on two extra condition, first some money also must go to Nicaragua death squads and second, it must be hidden from the congress. Obama failed on both

Dukhat
Member Mon Aug 08 08:30:23
Palin destroyed Palin just like Trump destroyed Trump. They opened their mouths and the media repeated what they said verbatim.

So it's the media's fault for echoing the stupid things they said? Sad thing is that Trump will still be profitable after he loses big time in the election; just like Sarah Palin did. He will say his bullshit to the same millions of adoring rednecks and they will eat it up.

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Average Ameriacn Member	Sat Aug 06 14:46:16 Wow he really explains it all! http://www...gh-media-gone-palin-trump-now/ Rush Limbaugh: ‘The Media Has Gone All Palin on Trump Now’ LIMBAUGH: Yes, my friends, it’s an interesting… (laughing) Take a look. I’m telling you as I was telling Mr. Snerdley this morning, “The media has gone all Palin on Trump now. They’ve gone all Palin.” Folks, there’s no doubt what is going on. The media is trying to take Donald Trump out. And I’ve told this story a number of times. Please indulge me as I tell it one more time, because there are new listeners, not just every day, there are new listeners every half hour on this program. We have the data to document that. Back in 2008, I got conned into hosting a dinner party at my house, and there were some people there that I had not met before. But I had it on good authority that they were okay. So they showed up, and everything was fine — until we began to discuss the campaign. And two of the guests at the dinner suggested that it was time to throw Sarah Palin overboard. They claimed to be Republicans, and they were going to vote for McCain. But it was time to get rid of Palin. It might have been before… No, she had been chosen. She was the VP nominee. Their point was, “Rush, you’re wasting your time trying to save her. The media has destroyed her. There’s no saving her. She’s done!” I said, “What? You mean we have to come up with nominees that the media approves and won’t destroy, and that’s the only hope we’ve got?” And one of these two guys said, “Well, essentially, yeah! If they can take anybody we nominate out, what good are they?” So I said, “At what point do you think it might be necessary to step in and start defending these people against these slanderous and libelous attacks?” He said, “It’s pointless. If the media wants to take you out, they’re going to take you out. So we’ve got to move on. Besides, Rush, she’s an idiot anyway to let this happen.” They went on and on. So I got so mad, I walked out of my own dinner party. I think I had to fly out… Where was I going? I might have been flying to California for a golf trip. I forget which. But I left early, stormed out of there. Kathryn followed me out on the front porch, driveway, shaking. (laughing) Couldn’t believe what had just happened: I was leaving my own dinner party. I’m telling you, I wonder how long it’s going to be… Well, it’s already happening, even before today. But we do have a number of Republicans — Meg Whitman being the most famous and noteworthy recently — who are suggesting not only is it time to throw Trump overboard and get rid of Trump, it’s time to sidle up to Hillary Clinton. But I’m telling you, there seem to be so many people on our side that are deeply affected by what the media does. They still believe that the only way we can ever win is to have a nominee or a candidate for whatever election is up that the media doesn’t destroy. And, of course, I said, “Well, then if you get that kind of nominee that the media doesn’t want to destroy, they’re really not going to be that good.” Here’s an example: We have what is no doubt a hostage payment in violation of American policy, foreign policy, FBI policy. You name it. You don’t pay ransom! You just don’t do it. We did. Obama’s denying it. He said (summarized), “There was nothing nefarious about this deal.” There wasn’t? There wasn’t anything nefarious? So the Iranians want $400 million; they have four or five of our sailors. They tell us they’ll release them when we pay up. But we can’t use US dollars because of sanctions — meaning to do this, we have to break the law, if we can’t use US dollars. So Obama then goes and arranges somehow to get $400 million from somewhere. Now, normally maybe there’s a… What do you call it? What do businesses call…? The petty cash drawer. Maybe there’s a petty cash drawer in the White House that’s got a couple of billion in there, and Obama can use it in a discretionary way. (interruption) Yeah, “Obama stash.” Anyway, he comes up with $400 million, and then it’s in foreign currency. Some of it is Swiss Francs. Some of it is in Euros. I forget what other denominations or what other currencies are used, but it totals $400 million. We put it on a pallet. We put it on a plane. We fly the plane over there. The plane lands under cover of darkness. The hostages are on the tarmac awaiting the arrival of that airplane and that cash before the Iranians will release them. One of the hostages was told, “You can’t leave here until that plane arrives.” The hostage says, “What plane?” “Never you mind,” the Iranians say. “But there’s a plane coming, it’s got some stuff on it, and until it gets here and until we offload the stuff on it, you can’t leave.” Well, the plane lands; they offload the pallet of $400 million, again under cover of darkness — and again, nobody knew it at the time. You would think a prisoner-release program like this would be something that the Regime would be bragging about, as in, “Look at what we did! We got our hostages back! We got our hostages back and nobody died!” Yeah, and then people started saying, “It’s a ransom payment.” “No, no, no! It’s not ransom. In fact, it’s an advanced payment. We have a lot of deals going with Iran. In fact,” Josh Ernest, White House Press Secretary, said (paraphrased), “this is actually brilliant on Obama’s part. You know why? Because this could have been much more. “This was an advanced payment for Iran on some of their infrastructure rebuilding.” I said, “You mean like the stimulus package that we had of close to a trillion dollars back in 2009 for the exact same reason? Rebuild our roads. Rebuild our bridges. Rebuild our schools. The fact is that none of that stimulus money went to any of those. Isn’t it amazing how often “infrastructure” is used to justify the expenditure of a lot of money that otherwise wouldn’t make any sense? In this case, it happened to be Iranian infrastructure: Roads, bridges, schools, and so forth. Well, in the midst of all of this, Donald Trump claimed that he saw video of the cash on the pallet being unloaded. Now, we know that it happened. We know the cash arrived. We know the cash arrived under cover of darkness. We know that the Iranians accepted it. We know the Iranians called it “ransom”! We know we paid it. The White House is admitting we paid it. They’re just saying, “It wasn’t ransom.” So we know an airplane with $400 million in cash currency landed in Iran, that that pallet was offloaded and given to the ayatollahs. We know that that happened! Trump says he saw a video of it. Turns out, he was mistaken. He saw a video of something on Fox News but it wasn’t this. What is the news today? What is the news? In the Drive-By Media, what is big story today? It is that Donald Trump lied about seeing a video of $400 million being paid as ransom to the Iranians for the release of hostages. Trump tweeted it out. He’s since… I don’t know if he’s apologized or he’s admitted that he saw something else. He was mistaken in what he saw on Fox News. But regardless, we know that it happened. The big story of the day is Donald Trump mistaking a video on Fox News as the Obama plane delivering Obama’s $400 million in hard currency ransom. The big story is not Obama paying ransom for hostages, because the big story is Donald Trump mistakenly saying he saw a video. The big story is not even Obama denying that it was ransom, even though it was. The big story is not Hillary and John Kerry and the press secretary all lying about it. They’ve all said, “It wasn’t ransom!” They’ve all said, “There’s nothing to see here.” They’ve all said, “It wasn’t nefarious.” But that wasn’t the big story. The big story is that Trump tweeted out that he actually saw a video of this happening. The big story is not that one of the hostages says that their plane didn’t take off until after the money plane had landed. I mean, the hostage has reported that they were on a tarmac, they were ready to leave, and the Iranian strongmen said, “You can’t leave until the plane arrives.” “Why?” “Well, you just can’t. There’s a plane coming in here for us. It has something on it. And until we get that something off of it for us, you can’t leave.” That’s not the big story. The big story is Donald Trump saying he saw a video of all of this happening. The big story is not Barack Obama using the plural “payments” at the Pentagon yesterday. What, payments? This was not ransom, but it was part of payments? Payments for what? Did Congress authorize these payments? Is this the $1.7 billion in total, and is this part of or in addition to the $150 billion that we have unfrozen for them? Regardless, that’s not the story. The big story is that Donald Trump claims to have seen a video of what we know happened. The big story is not asking where Obama got the $400 million. The big story is not asking how Obama laundered the $400 million and turned it into Swiss and Euro currency. There seems to be no interest in any of that. The big story is that Donald Trump mistakenly saw a video of all of this happening. The big story is not that anybody else who found a way to launder money and use it this way, would have already been charged with something and maybe in jail. No, no, no! Of course not. That’s not the story. Don’t be ridiculous. The big story is Donald Trump says he saw a video. By the way, I thought videos were the magical answer to everything. Videos explain what happened in Benghazi. Trump said he saw a video. Now the press insisted on saying, “There wasn’t a video! What’s he talking about?” In this case, there wasn’t a video, and Trump is an idiot for lying about it. Well, there wasn’t a video that caused whatever happened in Benghazi. There wasn’t a video that caused that. But the media didn’t care about that! They went along for the ride. “There was a video!” The big story is not what every single American on foreign soil is now at risk for kidnapping because the Obama regime has paid ransom. That’s not a story. It’s not a factor. We’re not even warning anybody, “Be careful, you could be next,” because the big story is that Donald Trump said he saw a video of this all happening. We know it happened. And the big story is not the video on YouTube done by Iran to brag of the payment! There is a video. The Iranians have the video on YouTube bragging about the ransom they collected. Trump, mistaking the video. That’s the big story of today and is offered as further evidence of why Trump is unfit to be president
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Aug 06 15:14:12 Trump admitted he saw a different video and mistook it for the Iran incident. Obama has done just about everything he could get away with to help Iran even though they are the largest State supplier to terrorist. The reason Iran wanted cash is because it is easier to finance terrorism. That is why Obama had to launder the dollars into European currencies. Hell, I think he planed it that way from the git go. If he cared a whit about the hostages all he had to do was insist they be released before we sat down at the table. This is just another case of Obama hating America.
Forwyn Member	Sat Aug 06 15:30:00 You know one of those "hostages" was a CIA operative, right?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Aug 06 15:42:38 I did not know that. I did not follow the case that closely.
Paramount Member	Sat Aug 06 15:52:43 "Obama has done just about everything he could get away with to help Iran even though they are the largest State supplier to terrorist." That's just plain wrong. The US itself along with Israel are the largest state suppliers to terrorists.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Aug 06 16:24:05 Fuck off, you don't know what I'm talking about.
werewolf dictator Member	Sat Aug 06 16:26:03 'This is just another case of Obama hating America.' lulz
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Aug 06 16:33:24 If he did not hate America then why would he give $400 Million in cash to Iran when they suspected that much of that cash will end up in terrorist hands. The White House admitted that much. The money was ours and it was earmarked for the victims of terrorist. It was not intended to be handed over to the terrorists to be used against us.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Aug 06 16:38:54 BTW, Iran has already kidnapped two or three US/Iran dual citizens. How much are they going to cost us?
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Aug 06 16:39:24 "The money was ours and it was earmarked for the victims of terrorist. " The money is Iranian money from 1970s, plus accrued interest. It was payment for American weapons, planes that shah made and US did not refund ( and never delivered weapons). The issue is separate from the nuclear deal, US lost in international court and has to return the money to Iran, Obama announced it last January. Other than that, you are right, bud
Paramount Member	Sat Aug 06 16:52:31 So if Obama is hating America, why don't you start an armed rebellion, Hot Rod? Are you a pussy?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Aug 06 18:38:03 cr, yeah. Right. We just held onto the money for decades for shits and giggles.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Aug 06 18:47:02 the evil media argument falls apart when so many varied republicans also can't stand Trump and his antics plus people like the CIA director who served both sides for decades and never picked a side before
patom Member	Sat Aug 06 18:52:21 Hot Rod, in case you haven't noticed. The relationship between the US and Iran hasn't been exactly rosy for the last 37 years. We have been doing our level best to hurt them financially for a long time now. If you want to be pissed about something, why not be pissed with our politicians encouraging our manufacturers to pull up stakes and move to China or Vietnam?
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Aug 06 19:02:40 "yeah. Right. We just held onto the money for decades for shits and giggles. " Bingo. This is not "our money" as you said, Iranian money "The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “ http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/
Aeros Member	Sat Aug 06 20:38:11 What CR said. It was Irans money, sitting in a frozen bank account, and international courts had already ordered it be returned.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Aug 06 23:34:17 "The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. Yes, because it rightfully belonged to Iran's victims. It still does. Or did before Obama stole it. He and his down line should be made responsible until it is repaid.
The Patriot Member	Sun Aug 07 07:10:03 Prove that Obama himself stole it. Or STFU making outrageous claims. Thanks.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Aug 07 09:15:36 Better yet, tell us where he got the authority to give those funds to Iran?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Aug 07 09:37:54 BTW, that transfer would not have been made without Obama's express approval. That is proven by his defense of the transaction.
Hrothgar Member	Sun Aug 07 13:17:45 Read again, since you flunked the first time: "The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “ http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/ And Obama didn't want to give it back. Just figured it was not worth fighting in international courts any longer since there are bigger fish to fry than a relatively paltry 400 million. On to of this Obama managed to find a way to get out of the 10 BILLION that Iran wanted, and sucker them into taking just the 400 million in cash. Full disclosure, I'm just throwing the word Obama around where administration should be used, because well, it's what we do when we don't like someone in office. Just assign their name to every damn thing.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Aug 07 13:27:24 Then why did the hostages have to wait all night for the 'other' plane to land before they could leave?
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Aug 07 14:16:16 http://www...eneral/onthisday/big/1125.html This is how you pay Iran to improve ties and release hostages, I think Rod insists on two extra condition, first some money also must go to Nicaragua death squads and second, it must be hidden from the congress. Obama failed on both
Dukhat Member	Mon Aug 08 08:30:23 Palin destroyed Palin just like Trump destroyed Trump. They opened their mouths and the media repeated what they said verbatim. So it's the media's fault for echoing the stupid things they said? Sad thing is that Trump will still be profitable after he loses big time in the election; just like Sarah Palin did. He will say his bullshit to the same millions of adoring rednecks and they will eat it up.
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