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Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 01 21:45:48

tw. it doesn't take much research, just read the article.

http://tim...nardino-shooter-bombs-bullets/


"Authorities found 12 pipe bombs and “hundreds of tools” to make more explosives at their home at Redlands."


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:12:41
this doesn't prove they were all over the house (as i said i recall them being in a garage), this doesn't prove the mother saw them, this doesn't prove vistors saw them

all of which Trump claims without evidence

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:13:04
vistors=visitors
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 01 22:16:14

'All over the house' is a figure of speech for Christ's sake.


How old are you anyway? Really, I would like to know?

Honestly, sometimes you act like you are ten with the knowledge of a 10 year old.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:21:29
BUT TRUMP DECLARES THE MOTHERS AND VISITORS SAW THEM ***BECAUSE*** THEY WERE "ALL OVER THE HOUSE"

which as you agree, they WERENT, so no reason to declare the people saw them, AS TRUMP DOES

he accuses people of serious crimes with NO evidence

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:24:38
TRUMP:

"I mean, there were numerous people that saw bombs all over this apartment floor, they knew something was going on. They never reported him or her. They never reported and that 14 people were killed and many, many people injured."


On Fox News, he said that there were "bombs all over the floor, many people saw the bombs, those bombs weren't there as play toys. And they could have been reported long before San Bernardino took effect."


TOTAL LIES
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:28:40
for the record, i don't know if the mother knew or not... just know Trump immediately declared her involved when this info came out based only on his speculation
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 01 22:33:33

Jesus!!!

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:36:26
so you agree... "many people saw the bombs" is a made-up lie?

i'll assume you do :p
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 01 22:36:46

No doubt about it.

You are ten.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:42:15
ok, you're going to believe Trump sent his Hawaii investigators to gather information that was never published or something

fine
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:53:52
he's eating KFC with a knife & fork
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co0e-ydWgAEEbcF.jpg

at least he took off his tie
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 01 22:58:41
and again... why Trump likes fast food chains...

“I’m a very clean person. I like cleanliness. I think you’re better off going there than someplace you have no idea where the food is coming from. It’s a certain standard,” Trump continued, straight-faced. “The one thing about the big franchises: one bad hamburger, you can destroy McDonald’s. One bad hamburger, you take Wendy’s and all these other places and they’re out of business.”

http://www...n-donald-trump-loves-mcdonalds

mental illness
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Aug 02 03:21:49

As a matter of fact, McDonald's is cleaning up their act and getting rid of a lot of their additives that aren't good for you.



BTW, you do not eat chicken in a 5-Star restaurant with your fingers. He has obviously developed a habit of eating chicken as if he were in a 5-Star restaurant.

Some call it table manners.

Hot Stick
Member
Tue Aug 02 03:30:02
You *KNOW* a man has table manners if he eats with a knife and fork in mcdonalds and kfc. This only makes him more presidential. A man a step above everybody else. Which is just what we need right now after an obama presidency where he was wiping his shoes on the oval office desk which is an american historical artefact.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Aug 02 03:38:21

Hot Stick is living proof of how stupid is the member that he is a multi for.

Hot Stick
Member
Tue Aug 02 04:20:42
You can *EVEN* consider mcdonalds to be a health food now that they have cleaned up their act.) ou can eat mcdonalds for every meal and *LOSE* 63 pounds. I'm going to try it soon because my waistline needs a trim. http://www...-Diet-John-Cisna/dp/1632959844
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 07:34:13
lol@"unheard of"



"Trump, who constantly reminded that he was "self-funding" his campaign throughout the primaries, bragged while previewing his July fundraising totals.

"It's gonna be announced tomorrow or the next day: we've raised, we think, about $35.8 million. This is unheard of for Republicans, $35.8 million," Trump said.

While the haul certainly shows a much-needed uptick for the Trump campaign's fundraising efforts, "unheard of" it is not: In 2012, GOP nominee Mitt Romney raised just over $101 million in July of that year."

http://www...35-million-fundraising-n621406
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Aug 02 07:45:44
why is crooked hillary worth $110m while jimmy carter is worth $5m

all those corrupt goldman sachs speaking fees add up i guess

[maybe clintons can retire to ukraine when things settle]
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 07:50:41
oh yeah, who doesn't dream of retiring to post soviet shithole
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 07:51:45
Maybe if you get Gazprom money like Schroeder
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 08:29:32
Retard Rod, how can we trust anything you're posting here when you've been known to lie in the very recent past?

http://www...-debates-and-the-nfl-schedule/

This is the link that caught you in the lie and you've been trying to hide from it ever since. It taints the rest of your posts in every thread because well all know you were lying, but you're not man enough to admit it.

So how can we trust anything you post in this thread until you address that lie?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Aug 02 09:12:50

Start a #2 thread on that subject and I will tell you again.

As far as I'm concerned I have already made my point and it is a closed subject.

However, I will continue the discussion if you like, all you have to do is start a #2 thread.

Go for it or STFU.

Quit crying like a little baby.

Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 09:21:07
There is already a thread up for you to post in and address this issue. You simply refuse to do so. Making yet another thread for that purpose would be spam, much like how you made a thread just to proclaim some made up forum rule.

Until you address the issue in that thread, I don't see how we can trust anything you say in any thread.

But hey, keep making excuses and running away. This will be fun.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 10:27:10
Trump plans to spend double Hillary on infrastructure
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co3IJRvWIAAoqSl.jpg

surprise, Republicans! :p
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 10:34:57
"Trump plans to spend double Hillary on infrastructure "

All while having a giant tax cut, increasing military spending, not touching Medicare and Social Security and most importantly - paying off national debt! But kudos for the solid public jobs plan. I mean, at least until Donald renounces it and claims that he never said it
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 10:43:27
well when he magically brings back all those manufacturing jobs despite raising min wage to $10, it'll all work out
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 10:55:41
seriously, read what he says, Donald praises ultra low rates, which will allow him to borrow money cheaply, to re-build infrastructure. Something obama was proposing for like seven years, but republicans blocked. You know, rates are 'artificial' bullshit?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 11:14:51
well Democrats can be a little happy they will get a D in the whitehouse either way

either a little child or the devil (Trump's words)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 12:07:39
some gullible fool gave Trump their Purple Heart

Trump said he always wanted to get one

i'll assume in his typical ignorance that he doesn't know what it gets awarded for
Pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 12:09:58
Imagine working PR for the Trump campaign. Every appearance is cause for a stroke, yet nothing sticks.

They WI probably all age more in the next 4 months then Trump will in 4 years as President.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 12:33:00
here's a good one

Trump making fun of a woman who didn't realize he was being sarcastic about being ok with her crying baby :p

[video at top]:
http://www...irginia-crying-baby/index.html

"Actually I was only kidding, you can get the baby out of here," he said to laughs. "I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I'm speaking. That's OK. People don't understand. That's OK."

you can see him watching her get out :p, so not kidding on that last part
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 12:57:49
What are the odds that Donald wears his Purple Heart on campaign trail?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 13:43:40
Trump & son also taking heat for their comments on sexual harassment / Roger Ailes situation, if Ivanka subjected to it

Donald: hopes Ivanka would leave and get another job
Eric Trump: “Ivanka is a strong, powerful woman, she would not allow herself to be subjected to it”

translation: women who get harassed are weak losers
Pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 13:48:45
How're they wrong?

If you're sexually harassed at your job and don't do anything, you're a weak fucking loser.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 13:53:22
Donnie didn't even mention anything about employer
Eric did add they should go to HR... if they are weak losers who can't handle it themselves
PillzLovesTheCock
Member
Tue Aug 02 13:54:48
If a cock flops out in front of me, I ain't weak. I suck it. -Pillz
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 14:15:48
Retard Rod is on the run again - fleeing from his own lies. Now he's claiming he can't find the "issue" even though it was reposted in the thread he decided to participate in. When told to reread the thread, he pissed himself and threw a fit.

We're all still waiting for you to own up to your lies, Retard Rod.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 16:09:49
child Trump not yet supporting Paul Ryan...

“I like Paul, but these are horrible times for our country,” Trump said. “We need very strong leadership. We need very, very strong leadership. And I’m just not quite there yet. I’m not quite there yet.”

using curiously similar language to what Ryan said months ago :p

he's also against John McCain & Kelly Ayotte since they are critical of him

http://www...6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 17:09:19
Any reason is a good reason to be against John McCain.

Also, given Trumps positions on Russia/Ukraine/Syria, it makes sense McCain would be critical of him.

I'm surprised McCain hasn't come out raving about how Trump is a filthy commie yet.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 17:34:51
Trump campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson just smeared KHAANN!! and said Obama & Hillary's changes to rules of engagement probably got their son killed :p

(he died in 2004)

she's a great bomb thrower, with as much concern for facts as TRUMP
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 17:37:51
Well, you definitely couldn't work for Trump and care about facts or truth.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 18:06:40
oh no... it's on now!

"
If @realDonaldTrump wants to be the Commander in Chief, he needs to act like one. And that cant start until he apologizes to the Khans.
"
~Sarah Palin's son-in-law (whom she possibly hated already... or perhaps lusts after...)
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Aug 02 18:08:16
Email fallout: 3 Democratic National Committee resignations


http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/World/2016/08/02/22656188.html
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 19:11:36
a reporter says he recalls Trump being very irritated when Ryan made those 'not there yet' comments back in May, so definitely seems a 'revenge is best served cold' situation

has having a vindictive child dictator ever caused problems in the past?
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 19:19:46
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co5NChyWYAEQqjq.jpg


This election is the best. On screen chyron fact checking
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 19:22:18
they have no choice :p... "he hasn't" is accurate

Eric was claiming Donald has apologized by honoring their sons sacrifice or something
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 19:39:01
sounds like things going well inside the Trump camp:

"
longtime ally of Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager: "Manafort not challenging Trump anymore. Mailing it in. Staff suicidal."
"
http://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/760633940151443457

this seems believable... pretty clear Trump wants to be a 1-man army... screw advisors
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 19:49:33
If hes not longer even letting the people he delegates to win him the election, he was a Clinton plant. Having his worst PR week, perhaps, days after the failure of the DNC.

Or maybe the entertainment gods are smiling on America this election, who knows.

Still, #MAGA
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 19:49:34
He'll never lose his hardcore, delusional supporters (like Retard Rod), but Trump's staff must already be cutting themselves as they watch their "boss" torpedo his own campaign over and over.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 19:53:24
"days after the failure of the DNC."

Considering Clinton's convention bump seems to be larger than Trump's was, I'm not sure it can be called a failure.

http://fiv...ce-appears-bigger-than-trumps/
McKobb
Member
Tue Aug 02 19:57:51
Republican party voted for this?

Party up, please!
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 19:59:34
"Considering Clinton's convention bump seems to be larger than Trump's was, I'm not sure it can be called a failure. "

I don't know how much stock I put into polls this election, since they failed miserably during the entire Primary process. I am going to assume they're neck & neck until one side or the other suffers a total collapse from scandal or stupidity.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:01:31
Not a bad retreat. 5/10
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:05:57
Retreat from what?

The DNC was an in-house failure, Hillary lost all of Bernies anarcho-communist college shitheads and old white hippies.

CNN and other outlets heavily manipulated coverage to avoid shaking the boat by showing the democratic opposition.

And the DNC kicked out & blacklisted Bernie supporters and delegates over the course of the week.

Now not only has the DNC chair resigned, but so has the CEO and several other high ranking DNC officials.

Plus, you're posting Nate "wrong all season" Silver? He did not predict a single republican race correctly for like 8 months, and no way would I trust him at this stage, no matter who he's giving the lead to.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:12:11
lmfao, settle down, twat. It's a compilation of polls, not a prediction of who is going to win. If you don't want to pay attention to a compilation of the polls, that's your problem. But it's the best indicator we have at the moment (aka, better than any retarded analysis you might post). And the post-convention bump for Clinton seems to have been pretty decent.
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:14:42
Doesn't change the fact fivethirtyeight has the same credibility as Al Amaq at this point.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:16:24
"don't know how much stock I put into polls this election, since they failed miserably during the entire Primary process. "

What are you talking about, my boy? Trump led in polls practically the entire time, I think there was some short period at the end, where Cruz won several national polls, but in general, Trump led and Trump won.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:18:02
Credibility for predicting wins does not equal credibility for looking at incoming polls and compiling a simple statistic. What a pathetic attempt at a strawman. I'm sure you can do better than that. Try harder.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:19:43
http://ele...ster/2016-national-gop-primary

Polls for GOP primary. The guy who led in polls won. Polls did not fail
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:19:54
Polls consistently underestimated Trumps pull with Republican voters.
And Nate Silver was wrong in ever single prediction be made on the topic of Trump.

If you want to put stock into polls, go for it.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:21:27
No, pundits and forecasters who predicted imminent Trump demise, DESPITE the polls were wrong. Polls, on the other hand, did fine
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:24:26
And more attempts at terrible strawmen... Comparisons to Retard Rod continue to make sense.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:27:01
http://www...sidential_nomination-3823.html

Realclearpolitics aggregate, trump led in polls since summer of '15. People had this impression that polling failed because so many pundits predicted imminent collapse so frequently, despite the polling data. But polling did not fail in this instance
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:28:39
Is all this crying and whining on UP your idea of catharsis?
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:28:53
Yeah, my recollection is there weren't a huge number of surprises for Trump beyond the fact that his momentum never collapsed as the pundits predicted.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:29:20
roh ruh, pillz is butthurt now.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 20:31:04
Trump's old friend Roger Stone on the rigged election:


“I think we have widespread voter fraud, but the first thing that Trump needs to do is begin talking about it constantly,” Stone said. “He needs to say for example, today would be a perfect example: ‘I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud. If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’”

http://www...w-trump-can-fight-voter-fraud/

so, there you go... prepare your defenses, the rebellion is a comin'
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:31:32
Says the faggot who stalked Hot Rod across a half dozen threads begging for attention
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:33:39
lmfao

That seemed like begging for attention to you? Well that certainly says a lot.
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:37:46
"Haha, jokes on you, I was only pretending"

- WoO
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:39:46
Pretending? No, I never said that.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:42:25
"I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud."


even if you subscribe for a sec, Florida election is run by GOP, the party that is governing the state. But yeah, prepare for some violent shit. Remains to be seen though, if that trash is willing to die for Donald

McKobb
Member
Tue Aug 02 20:49:25
http://www...-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

Aides jumping ship!
Pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 21:12:49
She and that use aide should clarify what part of Hillary's platform they are most attracted to.

Else, it's just a bunch of convictionless weasels siding with the most entrenched establishment candidate ever.
Pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 21:13:07
*use aide = bush aide
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 21:23:13
Meg Whitman also jumped ship

Using remarkably blunt language, she argued that the election of Mr. Trump, whom she called “a dishonest demagogue,” could lead the country “on a very dangerous journey.” She noted that democracies had seldom lasted longer than a few hundred years and warned that those who say that “it can’t happen here” are being naïve.

http://www...g-whitman-hillary-clinton.html
Pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 21:24:30
How can she say that with a straight face and then support a dynasty?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 21:28:21
Trump CAN destroy America (see above Tue Aug 02 20:31:04)... all he has to do is speak that theory from his old friend, & he's already mentioned being rigged
(plus being a clearly evident vindictive child dictator as i noted could cause problems)
Hillary destroying America seems less likely


good tweet
"
I don't watch a lot of cable news but I presume it's somewhat unusual to have panel of experts discuss whether nominee is clinically insane.
"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 21:34:00
ASHBURN, Va. – Even by the standards of rowdy Donald Trump rallies, the sight of a boy repeatedly yelling “take the bitch down” about presidential candidate Hillary Clinton stood out.

The preadolescent boy and his mother, who identified herself as Pam Kohler of Mount Vernon, Va., held signs reading “HILLARY FOR PRISON 2016.” They sat in the midst of the press section for the Republican nominee’s 64-minute speech in a public high school auditorium here Tuesday.

“I think he has a right to say what he wants to,” said Ms. Kohler.

http://blo...raws-attention-at-trump-rally/

a high-brow election
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Aug 02 21:46:05

Did you know that a member of the liberal press wished Patricia Smith dead after her little speech at the RNC?


I guess you would call him a 'high brow' reporter.

CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Aug 02 21:49:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=343&v=kSE-XoVKaXg

this is done well. The Bill Clinton part is funny
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 21:54:31
"A writer at GQ has published an apology for wishing he could confront the mother of Benghazi terror victim Sean Smith and beat her to death."

well, at least he apologized
----

hey, guess what, Trump is ignorant about how voting works...

"
RUCKER: Do you think someone can vote multiple times?

TRUMP: Multiple times. How about like 10 times. Why not? If you don’t have voter ID, you can just keep voting and voting and voting.
"

http://www...6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Aug 02 22:00:24

Depends on the State and the way their laws are written.

.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:01:57
actually i should've continued that...


RUCKER: Is there anything else that you think could be going on?

TRUMP: Look, you never know. It started with me in Louisiana when I won Louisiana and I got fewer delegates than Ted Cruz.


the FUCKING IDIOT doesn't even understand what happened with the Louisiana delegates, that means he read a headline but NEVER looked into why... unbelievable
Canadian
Member
Tue Aug 02 22:02:26
@tw: Ashburn, VA, pretty much says it all; probably still legal to marry your cousin there.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:05:00
actually i should've continued that... (sorry posting as reading transcript :p)

"
RUCKER: I remember that.

TRUMP: I said, “Whoa! Whoa! What happens here?” And then I polled well in Colorado. and instead of voting, the bosses picked it*. I said, “What’s going on here?”
"

*WRONG

the FUCKING IDIOT doesn't even understand what happened with Colorado... it was his own primary, show a smidgen of intellectual curiosity

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:15:55
wow, clear evidence that he was trying to stick it to Ryan for his comments in May & that he is a vindictive child (this interview is before the one posted above about Ryan)

"

TRUMP: You want me to give you an exact quote on the Paul Ryan? You were asking.

RUCKER: Yeah, please do.

TRUMP: Okay, you’re asking me if I’m supporting Paul Ryan?

RUCKER: Yeah, if you’re supporting Paul Ryan.

TRUMP: I’m not quite there yet.

"

he'd been waiting to say that for months!... that's a real sick mother-fucker :p
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 22:20:08
If I was American I would feel deep humiliation and sadness over the fact that Trump is the best choice available.

But I'm not, so it's just awesome.

#MAGA
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:20:12
"
You want me to give you an exact quote on Paul Ryan?

I’m not quite there yet.
"

booyah... he probably orgasmed...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:22:13
oh wait, it's not -before- prior Ryan interview, it IS that prior interview :p just more complete
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:32:22
here he is threatening to make PACs to defeat Kasich & others who cross him



TRUMP: And I am gonna do a couple PACs, at the right time.

RUCKER: What do you mean?

TRUMP: I’m gonna do two or three $10 million PACs at the right time.

RUCKER: What does that mean, though, a PAC?

TRUMP: Anti-certain candidate PACs.

RUCKER: You mean Clinton, or elsewhere?

TRUMP: I’m not saying against her, but I’m gonna do anti-, I’ll be active in politics through PACs at a later date.

RUCKER: Like during this election year, or?

TRUMP: No.

RUCKER: Or in the future?

TRUMP: For future elections.

RUCKER: Oh. So if there’s a candidate you don’t like who’s running, you would fund a PAC to hurt them?

TRUMP: Republican or Democrat.

RUCKER: Really?

TRUMP: Yeah. That I’ll do.

RUCKER: Would you do that against Cruz, if he runs again?

TRUMP: Maybe.

RUCKER: He seems to want to run again.

TRUMP: Maybe against Kasich.

----

more vindictive child proof for the pile

what a crazy scary candidate...

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:35:43
Hannity doing his part to destroy America


Question of the Day: In light of @realDonaldTrump's comments, do you think the general election could be rigged? Weigh in using #Hannity.

http://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/760671639520501760

disgusting
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 22:39:29
Seriously?

Do you think it couldn't be, beyond any doubt?

And as for Hillary:
http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0878156.html

As it stands 14/14 Presidents are related to at least one other President. If she is elected, that is 16/45 Presidents related to one at least one other.

So 'democratic'. Nothing suspect there at all.
pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 22:39:50
*14/44
McKobb
Member
Tue Aug 02 22:43:42
Too bad the republican's nomination choice is forcing her on us.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:44:31
recall Trump saying the primary was rigged?... despite consistently getting more delegates than his vote %

he's not legitimately suggesting it's rigged... he's just a total asshole

and Hannity is one of many Fox News hosts openly shilling for him

if all his mindless (HR) fans buy into this thing being rigged (w/ Trump's trademark zero evidence) it could be a huge problem... and they've had no problem buying his zero evidence claims so far

pillz
Member
Tue Aug 02 22:53:43
I'm not sure there are enough Hot Rod's to cause any damage.

The well armed and organized crowd seems to be pretty reserved, as we saw with the Oregon standoff, where everybody refused to join them including Oregon militia that had gone to Bundy's Ranch.

And I'm pretty sure most of them are not hardcore Trump fans but more stuck with him. They'd buy a Hillary victory.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:55:19
here's Corey Lewandowski from a panel tonight pondering whether Obama's Harvard transcripts show him as a citizen or foreigner :p

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co570L3W8AAKqaB.jpg

everyone Trump associates with is basically garbage
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 02 22:56:57
"I'm not sure there are enough Hot Rod's to cause any damage. "

there could be millions... plus with Hannity and others helping it could grow
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