Utopia Talk / Politics / BTW, Sen. McConnell

Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Feb 14 00:15:43 has already decided to let the next President nominate Judge Scalia's replacement and he is getting some support. Obama is saying he will fulfill his responsibility to nominate the replacement and he expects The Senate to give them a prompt vote. Harry Reid agrees. Now we have to worry about an end around appointment.
smart dude Member	Sun Feb 14 00:20:06 Dear god ANOTHER thread about Scalia?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Feb 14 00:22:35 LOL, can someone please explain to dumb dud what this thread is all about, I'm too busy LMFAO.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Feb 14 00:26:34 dumb dud, please quit making pictures of your mother in my threads. Thank you, thank you very much.
smart dude Member	Sun Feb 14 00:28:04 actually it's a picture of your moms favorite meal
Garyd Member	Sun Feb 14 17:56:59 Damn and I thought it was your lover...
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Feb 14 18:03:36 To bad dumb dud fucked this up. It will be one of the biggest stories this Summer.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 16 16:41:57 ttt
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 16 20:19:36 dumb dud, please quit posting your mom's portrait.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 16 21:08:03 dumb dud, this is a legitimate thread about the politics of The Senate concerning Advise and Consent. Why do you insist on Spamming it? We haven't had a Spammer here for months.
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 21:44:11 I only spam in spam threads, H Rod. http://www...hread?id=politics&thread=28528
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 21:52:14 Highlights from that classic thread: "It's no secret that he was not much liked in this forum" "good." "It is likely a ruse by HR to make us feel sorry for him and miss him" "Finally." "I hear satan is trying to get him kicked out of hell because he's damn annoying." "I wonder if the child anus on the other side is tight enough for him."
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 16 21:54:39 All lies by a bunch of turds not good enough to eat the mans shit.
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Feb 16 21:59:12 You are 100% right, Rid. Give them hell, bud. You, on the other hand, are good enough to eat anyone's shit, and don't let them tell you otherwise
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 21:59:15 The only lie in that thread was by the old pederast who faked his death.
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 22:01:07 Oh. You didn't even click on the link
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 16 22:02:41 Of course not dumb dud.
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 22:03:44 It's typical for you to claim that something is "all lies" before you even look at it, though.
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Feb 16 22:04:58 Don't open it, Rod. It's the one where you lied about being dead.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Feb 16 22:06:56 Oh yeah, dumb dud keeps a file on me, isn't he sweet.
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 22:12:00 I keep a file on everyone and everything. It's called Google. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Utopia+forums+hot+rods+brother
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 22:19:56 http://www...hread?id=politics&thread=36174 Here's an amusing thread, Hot Rod desperately clinging to his ridiculous lie.
smart dude Member	Tue Feb 16 22:20:15 http://www...hread?id=politics&thread=36095 Another gem
Aeros Member	Wed Feb 17 00:51:06 "dumb dud, this is a legitimate thread about the politics of The Senate concerning Advise and Consent." The Constitution requires the Senate to Advise and Consent to the Presidents nominations. This means the Senate has the right to reject approve a nomination (consent) or reject a nomination and explain why (advise). If they IGNORE a Presidential nomination (refuse to hold hearings), then they are in violation of the Constitution, and in violation of their constitutional duties. The President would have standing at this point to sue The Senate in Federal Court, setting up an unprecedented showdown between the three branches of Government. Because none of the three can constitutionally compel the other to carry out their duties. Even if the Constitution demands they do so. A big irony, but one that may be lost in the shouting. Because the Supreme Court could very well rule that the Senate MUST hold hearings on a Presidential nominee, and set a legal precedent of Presidential supremacy over Senate rules and procedures. The Senate could then accept that, or refuse to obey, setting a precedent for Congressional disobedience to the courts. Either outcome is bad, and both outcomes would damage Constitutional Law. But true to form, the Republicans in their lack of foresight are not thinking this through.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 17 04:17:29 That is total BS. The Senate can send a hundred nominees to Committee without recommendation to go to the full floor. You will hear a lot about Justice Kennedy being approved in an election year. But, let's not forget there were three nominees in 1987 before Kennedy was finally approved in Reagan's last year, 1988. The Senate is perfectly within their rights to stall the vote until next year.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 17 08:08:31 We all know that if there was a conservative President right now, and the Senate was talking about stalling until the next President, Hack Rod would be losing his shit. He's fantastic at being a liar and a hypocrite.
smart dude Member	Wed Feb 17 08:41:09 "until next year" You mean early January when President Obama's Democratic Senate approves anyone he wants? Or late January when President Hillary nominates future Justice Barack Obama? What would your complaint be then?
Aeros Member	Wed Feb 17 08:41:32 "The Senate can send a hundred nominees to Committee without recommendation to go to the full floor." Sure, they could, but in the case of a Supreme Court nominee, Obama could decide a refusal to even give him/her a hearing constitutes an extraordinary circumstance and order the Senate to hold a vote. The President can do that you know. They've never done it before, largely because they would be guaranteed to lose a vote at that point. But Obama may do it just for the fireworks.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 17 09:30:39 "Obama could decide a refusal to even give him/her a hearing constitutes an extraordinary circumstance and order the Senate to hold a vote." No, he cannot. He has zero power 'over' the Senate. He can work with them to try to get what he wants, he has chosen not to. He can make an end run around the Senate with a recess appointment, but the republicans have a way to prevent that too. Sorry Aeros, all he can do is submit names. There is absolutely no way Obama can force The Senate to do anything.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 17 09:31:42 Hack Rod will continue to ignore his own hypocrisy. Sometimes I wonder how that piece of shit lives with himself.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 17 10:14:48 Quit lying, you need a brain to wonder. Everyone knows that.
Aeros Member	Wed Feb 17 10:15:20 "No, he cannot. He has zero power 'over' the Senate." You know, for someone who worships the Constitution religiously, you really don't know much about it. Article 2, Section 3 He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; HE MAY, ON EXTRAORDINARY OCCASIONS, CONVENE BOTH HOUSES, OR EITHER OF THEM, AND IN CASE OF DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM, WITH RESPECT TO THE TIME OF ADJOURNMENT, HE MAY ADJOURN THEM TO SUCH TIME AS HE SHALL THINK PROPER;
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 17 10:26:11 That is if there is a disagreement between The House of Representatives and The Senate concerning the time of their adjournment. There is no disagreement between them concerning the replacement of a Supreme Court Justice at the present time. Or ever for that matter since The House has nothing whatsoever to do with The Advise and Consent.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 17 10:40:07 "We all know that if there was a conservative President right now, and the Senate was talking about stalling until the next President, Hack Rod would be losing his shit." Care to comment on that, Hack Rod? You might as well admit it, since everyone here knows it's accurate.
Aeros Member	Wed Feb 17 10:44:13 Rod, it say's he has the power to Convene them. As well as Adjourn them.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 17 10:55:11 Aeros, yes. He can make them come in and sit at their desk I guess. But, he can't even make them sharpen their pencils.
Aeros Member	Wed Feb 17 11:29:03 And once they are all sitting at their desks, the Democratic Senators will call a vote. Which they can do if there is a quorum on the floor of the Senate.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 17 12:48:09 They can call a vote only if the subject is on the floor and/or if they are acknowledged by the chair.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 17 17:53:18 So Hack Rod's silence is confirmation of his hypocrisy. At least you admit it and recognize that within yourself, Hack Rod. That's the first step toward recovery.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Feb 17 18:46:56 http://1.b...600/facepalm-Homer-Simpson.jpg
kargen Member	Wed Feb 17 20:04:56 "Obama could decide a refusal to even give him/her a hearing constitutes an extraordinary circumstance and order the Senate to hold a vote." No he can't. Judge appointments are not extraordinary. Extraordinary would be something like Japan bombing Pearl Harbor. In short an extraordinary circumstance would be something that could not be correctly handled by a scheduled meeting of congress. Appointing a judge would not apply.
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