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Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 10 13:28:48 Ben Carson: Trump's Right on Illegals, So 'No Sanctuary Cities' Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson agrees with Donald Trump that sanctuary cities — which prohibit the use of municipal funds to enforce federal immigration laws and do not allow police to ask about a person’s immigration status — should be outlawed. Ben Carson's America Ben Carson: Trump's Right on Illegals, So 'No Sanctuary Cities' Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson agrees with Donald Trump that sanctuary cities — which prohibit the use of municipal funds to enforce federal immigration laws and do not allow police to ask about a person’s immigration status — should be outlawed. 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"No sanctuary cities," the retired pediatric neurosurgeon told a crowd during a Politics & Eggs campaign event Tuesday at the Village Inn in Bedford, New Hampshire, The Daily Signal reports. "I think that’s ridiculous. "You have to turn off the spigot that dispenses the goodies," he said, referring to government handouts to illegals. "If there’s nothing for them to come here for, they’re not going to risk coming in here." The topic of sanctuary cities has been in the forefront since Monday’s arrest of Francisco Sanchez, an illegal immigrant who has seven felony convictions and has been deported five times but repeatedly returned to the U.S., according to The Guardian. Sanchez, 45, is charged with murder in the shooting death of 32-year-old Kate Steinle as she walked along San Francisco’s Pier 14 with her father. ABC News reported that Sanchez has served federal prison time and was on probation in Texas at the time of the shooting. He told a local ABC affiliate that he kept sneaking back into the U.S. from his native Mexico to look for work and that he knew San Francisco was a sanctuary city. In March, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) turned Sanchez, a repeat drug offender, over to San Francisco authorities and requested that ICE be notified prior to Sanchez’s release so they could take custody. The San Francisco Sheriff’s Department dropped the drug charges against Sanchez and let him go without alerting immigration officials. Real estate mogul and GOP presidential candidate Trump ignited a firestorm of controversy during his June 16 announcement when he characterized Mexicans who come to the U.S. illegally as rapists, drug-runners and criminals. Despite the backlash — several corporations have cut ties with him — Trump is not backing down. In New Hampshire on Tuesday, Carson said Trump’s delivery "is perhaps a little inflammatory," but the message is spot on. Carson said he too has been known to be incendiary, but has worked on dialing it down. "I learned that a few months ago, to tone down the rhetoric," he said. "That’s why you haven’t heard me do that much lately because I want people to hear what I’m saying." Trump speaks the truth, Carson told reporters covering the New Hampshire event, and his brash style is his trademark, The Boston Herald reported. "He is who he is," said Carson. "Could you imagine a Donald Trump who’s, like, nice, mild-mannered and says everything in a very peaceful — it wouldn’t be Donald Trump." This email was sent by: Ben Carson's America 219 East Dunklin Street Jefferson City, MO 65101 USA reaganreports.com
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 10 13:30:08 Please Ignore This Part, I Missed It. "Sponsor Call Us Toll-Free: 855-386-4552 Get up to 30% More Retirement Income"
Forwyn Member	Fri Jul 10 13:44:02 Who's going to outlaw cities spending municipal funds how they wish? The federal government?
MrPresident07 Member	Fri Jul 10 13:47:43 The issue here is that people are only viewing this from one side. "Sanctuary cities" actually started as a way for illegals to report crime. You come forward and report a crime or testify and we promise not to deport you. Maybe somebody can dig up some stats on the effect this has had on crime or solving crime. I'm not saying it's absolutely right, but there is a perspective we should keep here. It's not the municipality's job/role to enforce the border. It's the federal government's.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 10 13:53:26 Sorry, this is the article without the extraneous stuff. Ben Carson: Trump's Right on Illegals, So 'No Sanctuary Cities' Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson agrees with Donald Trump that sanctuary cities — which prohibit the use of municipal funds to enforce federal immigration laws and do not allow police to ask about a person’s immigration status — should be outlawed. Ben Carson's America Ben Carson: Trump's Right on Illegals, So 'No Sanctuary Cities' Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson agrees with Donald Trump that sanctuary cities — which prohibit the use of municipal funds to enforce federal immigration laws and do not allow police to ask about a person’s immigration status — should be outlawed. "No sanctuary cities," the retired pediatric neurosurgeon told a crowd during a Politics & Eggs campaign event Tuesday at the Village Inn in Bedford, New Hampshire, The Daily Signal reports. "I think that’s ridiculous. "You have to turn off the spigot that dispenses the goodies," he said, referring to government handouts to illegals. "If there’s nothing for them to come here for, they’re not going to risk coming in here." The topic of sanctuary cities has been in the forefront since Monday’s arrest of Francisco Sanchez, an illegal immigrant who has seven felony convictions and has been deported five times but repeatedly returned to the U.S., according to The Guardian. Sanchez, 45, is charged with murder in the shooting death of 32-year-old Kate Steinle as she walked along San Francisco’s Pier 14 with her father. ABC News reported that Sanchez has served federal prison time and was on probation in Texas at the time of the shooting. He told a local ABC affiliate that he kept sneaking back into the U.S. from his native Mexico to look for work and that he knew San Francisco was a sanctuary city. In March, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) turned Sanchez, a repeat drug offender, over to San Francisco authorities and requested that ICE be notified prior to Sanchez’s release so they could take custody. The San Francisco Sheriff’s Department dropped the drug charges against Sanchez and let him go without alerting immigration officials. Real estate mogul and GOP presidential candidate Trump ignited a firestorm of controversy during his June 16 announcement when he characterized Mexicans who come to the U.S. illegally as rapists, drug-runners and criminals. Despite the backlash — several corporations have cut ties with him — Trump is not backing down. In New Hampshire on Tuesday, Carson said Trump’s delivery "is perhaps a little inflammatory," but the message is spot on. Carson said he too has been known to be incendiary, but has worked on dialing it down. "I learned that a few months ago, to tone down the rhetoric," he said. "That’s why you haven’t heard me do that much lately because I want people to hear what I’m saying." Trump speaks the truth, Carson told reporters covering the New Hampshire event, and his brash style is his trademark, The Boston Herald reported. "He is who he is," said Carson. "Could you imagine a Donald Trump who’s, like, nice, mild-mannered and says everything in a very peaceful — it wouldn’t be Donald Trump." This email was sent by: Ben Carson's America 219 East Dunklin Street Jefferson City, MO 65101 USA reaganreports.com
Aeros Member	Fri Jul 10 15:44:45 States and Municipalities are not the ones who are supposed to be controlling immigration. They have to deal with the realities on the ground in their own jurisdictions, and that means dealing with all these new residents. They may be illegal, but they are working in these areas anyway, they have kids, and life goes on. The States and Cities could either pretend its not going on, or figure out ways to tax the working income and find a way to pay for their American Citizen kids to get their mandatory public education. The immigration issue is no less complicated then it was in the 19th century, and honestly no less stupid. We could be like Europe, and try and alienate these populations, or we could do like we have always done, integrate, co-opt, and absorb. Its not so long ago that Irish were our modern day Mexicans after all.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 10 16:09:46 Aeros Member Fri Jul 10 15:44:45 States and Municipalities are not the ones who are supposed to be controlling immigration. They have to deal with the realities on the ground in their own jurisdictions, and that means dealing with all these new residents. They may be illegal, but they are working in these areas anyway, they have kids, and life goes on. The States and Cities could either pretend its not going on, or figure out ways to tax the working income and find a way to pay for their American Citizen kids to get their mandatory public education. The immigration issue is no less complicated then it was in the 19th century, and honestly no less stupid. We could be like Europe, and try and alienate these populations, or we could do like we have always done, integrate, co-opt, and absorb. Its not so long ago that Irish were our modern day Mexicans after all.
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Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 10 17:12:02 Nope, it arrived just fine. Thanks
State Department Member	Fri Jul 10 17:12:29 Phew.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 10 17:13:42 This thread is all screwed up. Please post your serious thoughts to: http://www...hread=73820&time=1436562626333
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Fri Jul 10 17:15:50 Dude if you want to be taken seriously then never say "Trump's Right". Ever.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Jul 10 17:19:53 Even if I am quoting Dr. Ben Carson?
Aeros Member	Sat Jul 11 00:09:40 Ben Carson is a brain surgeon. His Doctorate is in the field of Medical Sciences, not the Social Science. I don't make an appeal to authority from a medical doctor for in depth info on the mineral composition of the Alpha Centauri system. That is for an Astro-Geologist. Don't appeal to authority for governing policy from a medical doctor either. Just because they have a degree does not mean they know shit about the subject.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sat Jul 11 00:15:53 Just because they have a degree does not mean they know shit about the subject.' Sadly, this can often hold true even when asking them about the subject their degree is in
Hood Member	Sat Jul 11 02:19:23 "Sadly, this can often hold true even when asking them about the subject their degree is in" My geometry teacher in high school tried to claim there were 1000 kilometers in a meter. It's a good thing I wasn't in class that day, I'd probably have gotten in serious trouble for the insults to his intelligence I'd have made.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Jul 11 07:22:00 Cthulhu - Just because they have a degree does not mean they know shit about the subject.' This was brought up one time when Carson was asked about his not being a politician. He replied, "It's not brain surgery."
Aeros Member	Sat Jul 11 22:30:35 No, its actually much more complicated then that.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Jul 12 07:52:46 OK, Let's see Obama separate conjoined twins at the head. Successfully.
TJ Member	Sun Jul 12 09:57:39 "It's not brain surgery." No truer words can be said. He out maneuvered the spud heads. I'm sure Carson is intelligent enough to have excellent council in the field of political underpinnings. Whether he is appealing enough to become President is another question altogether. I don't doubt that he has done a lot of community service, which is about all our current President had going for him. I'm sure it isn't that you consider him unqualified because of his ideology (an orientation that characterizes the thinking of a group or nation) more than qualifications. I'm of the opinion that he would be a better role model for Black Americans. That reason alone is quite enticing as a candidate. I don't think anyone is qualified to step into the highest office of this land or any other for that matter. One more thing. You totally misunderstood what I had said in the other thread about retuning to our mission statement. So much so I refuse additional discussion on the subject.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Jul 12 12:28:13 Trump & Carson might make a winning ticket.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Jul 12 12:28:59 Who would be the ramrod?
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Jul 12 12:40:19 If I have the correct definition, Trump. I think hes proven he can excell
TJ Member	Sun Jul 12 13:14:52 I must ask this question since I don't want to assume what is on HR's mind. Not sure either have a 2nd seat mentality. HR, why not Carson & Trump?
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