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CrownRoyal
Member Sat Nov 01 10:56:07

Turkish president Erdogan unveils his new palace of a thousand rooms
By Everton Gayle
29/10 19:37 CET

"Let them tear it down if they can. They ordered its suspension, yet they can’t stop this building. I’ll be opening it; I’ll be moving in and using it.”

The words of Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan when faced with critics of his “white elephant”, or rather white palace.
The residence boasts 1,000 rooms and cost $350 million (€280 million) to build.

It was built on land donated to the state in 1937 and the area declared a protected site in 1992. Constructing a building on the site is and remains illegal.

An administrative court demanded that construction stop. This was backed up by the Council of State. In fact there were reportedly three injunctions from three different administrative courts to stop the building of the palace.

Rather than back down, Erdogan challenged his adversaries. Neither courts nor critics would stop him.

Recently unveiled, the building has state-of-the art security that includes bunkers, tunnels to protect against chemical attacks. The complex has a room with military communications and satellite systems. And to prevent the planting of bugs, one of the offices in the palace has no electrical outlets.

The compound has a building for meeting heads of state and dignitaries, guesthouses and a congress centre. In addition there is a botanical gardens and a park.

As has been well documented, the palace was intended for the prime minister but is now the official residence of the president. And as such, Erdogan had a three-storey building added to house his family.

The president has brushed aside critics of the cost. One such person, Umut Oran, a deputy for the opposition Republican People’s Party, claimed the president’s budget was three times that of the British Royal Family.

“What could have been done with that money,” said Oran. The deputy suggested Turkey could have sent three satellites to Mars.
Another deputy said it made Moscow’s Kremlin compound look “like an outhouse”.

To put Erdogan’s palace into context, the White House sits on a plot that is 52 acres in total. The Kremlin wall encloses an area of 68 acres. The palace sits on a site covering 74 acres.

http://www...ew-palace-of-a-thousand-rooms/

CrownRoyal
Member Sat Nov 01 10:56:42
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1SiOFwCYAAphj_.jpg

modest

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Nov 01 11:01:23

And I thought our government wasted money. Hell, that thing could house most of the Turkish government possibly.

Forwyn
Member Sat Nov 01 11:02:34
"I do what I want"

pillz
Member Sat Nov 01 12:56:57
The US and Turkey may not see eye to eye on much, but at least they can stand firm as allies on wasteful spending.

CrownRoyal
Member Sat Nov 01 13:00:00
Erdogan is a piece of shit. I just wanted to say that. At this point he believes he is indispensable, that Turkey = Erdogan. Term limits ftw

Forwyn
Member Sat Nov 01 13:06:22
Anti-free speech, racist, genocidal, willing to kill his own if they attempt to prevent massacres, etc, etc

State Department
Member Sat Nov 01 13:27:40
And horrible taste in architecture. What an ugly POS.

Rugian
Member Sat Nov 01 13:28:54
^I was going to say. It doesn't even look that good. I'm all for spending hundreds of millions of dollars on opulent palaces, but this sucks.

CrownRoyal
Member Sat Nov 01 13:35:26
Hmm, I didn't pay attention to the style, but looking at it now, it does look sucky.

Rugian
Member Sat Nov 01 13:44:11
As with all other things, Putin is so much more competent at this sort of thing.

http://imgarcade.com/1/vladimir-putin-mansion/

CrownRoyal
Member Sat Nov 01 13:45:59
I share birthday with Putin, he will always occupy a warm place in my heart

williamthebastard
Member Sat Nov 01 13:56:58
Its interesting that people with so much wealth continue to get up and go to the office every morning, people who could quite easily retire and live a very comfortable life. Im sure that free-marketism's key ethic is that if people didnt need money, they'd all stop producing and sit around taking drugs all day. I guess that would mean that everyone who reaches free marketisms goal of making it rich would thus immediately fail at that point.

pillz
Member Sat Nov 01 14:06:15
Glad you could fag up an otherwise fun thread wtb.

The ultra-weathy go into politics in order to amass more wealth and more power, and to assist their friends and family in doing the same. This has been pretty common throughout all of forever and beyond.

williamthebastard
Member Sat Nov 01 14:08:41
I see. So only the plebs would stop doing anything if theyre were financially independent. The rich, however, continue to go to work everyday and chase goals, rather than become drugged up drones. But of course, plebs sometimes become rich people, and....oh this makes no sense!

williamthebastard
Member Sat Nov 01 14:11:12
I think we have to classify rich and poor as different races or perhaps species, since the poor apparently will only become drugged up zombies, while the rich become dedictaed and hard working job creators. Yes, thats the only explanation: a superior and an inferior race

Rugian
Member Sat Nov 01 14:22:24
I notice that ever since the Swedish aristocracy gave way to a low Gini coefficient and a large middle class, Swedish architecture has gone from decent to complete shit. So yeah, maybe plebs really can't be trusted with money.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Sat Nov 01 15:26:48
What the fuck are you on about anyways wtb?

CrownRoyal
Member Fri Jun 26 08:10:02
http://www...res-a-stream-of-turkish-memes/

check out the gigantic dinner table

Cloud Strife
Member Fri Jun 26 09:23:23
Some not-quite-middle-easterner being tacky?

Stop the presses...

CrownRoyal
Member Fri Jun 26 09:25:58
no, don't stop the presses. I find it enjoyable and amusing

Dakyron
Member Fri Jun 26 10:06:19
""Let them tear it down if they can. They ordered its suspension, yet they can’t stop this building. I’ll be opening it; I’ll be moving in and using it.” "

The public should take him up on his offer and storm the palace, loot it, and the burn it down, French Revolution style.

Paramount
Member Fri Jun 26 11:26:14
"At this point he believes he is indispensable, that Turkey = Erdogan."

Yeah, but he do have the right to an opinion. Freedom of expression and opinion is what characterizes a democracy.

I just wanted to say that.

CrownRoyal
Member Fri Jun 26 11:28:14
he do, he definitely do.

Aeros
Member Fri Jun 26 12:51:15
It definitely is the pinnacle of North Korean style government architecture. Looks alot like the party headquarters in Pyongyang.

http://cdn...02/5063726602_bcd7eae4fd_b.jpg

Rugian
Member Fri Jun 26 12:58:58
Ah, the inevitable march of progress. Humanity hit its architectural high in the 19th century and since then has gone completely off the rails. But I thought progression was always a good thing?

Cloud Strife
Member Fri Jun 26 14:03:25
Gothic architecture is the most appealing aesthetically.

Everything now is slippery or angles. It's practical enough though.

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CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 01 10:56:07 Turkish president Erdogan unveils his new palace of a thousand rooms By Everton Gayle 29/10 19:37 CET "Let them tear it down if they can. They ordered its suspension, yet they can’t stop this building. I’ll be opening it; I’ll be moving in and using it.” The words of Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan when faced with critics of his “white elephant”, or rather white palace. The residence boasts 1,000 rooms and cost $350 million (€280 million) to build. It was built on land donated to the state in 1937 and the area declared a protected site in 1992. Constructing a building on the site is and remains illegal. An administrative court demanded that construction stop. This was backed up by the Council of State. In fact there were reportedly three injunctions from three different administrative courts to stop the building of the palace. Rather than back down, Erdogan challenged his adversaries. Neither courts nor critics would stop him. Recently unveiled, the building has state-of-the art security that includes bunkers, tunnels to protect against chemical attacks. The complex has a room with military communications and satellite systems. And to prevent the planting of bugs, one of the offices in the palace has no electrical outlets. The compound has a building for meeting heads of state and dignitaries, guesthouses and a congress centre. In addition there is a botanical gardens and a park. As has been well documented, the palace was intended for the prime minister but is now the official residence of the president. And as such, Erdogan had a three-storey building added to house his family. The president has brushed aside critics of the cost. One such person, Umut Oran, a deputy for the opposition Republican People’s Party, claimed the president’s budget was three times that of the British Royal Family. “What could have been done with that money,” said Oran. The deputy suggested Turkey could have sent three satellites to Mars. Another deputy said it made Moscow’s Kremlin compound look “like an outhouse”. To put Erdogan’s palace into context, the White House sits on a plot that is 52 acres in total. The Kremlin wall encloses an area of 68 acres. The palace sits on a site covering 74 acres. http://www...ew-palace-of-a-thousand-rooms/
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 01 10:56:42 http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1SiOFwCYAAphj_.jpg modest
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Nov 01 11:01:23 And I thought our government wasted money. Hell, that thing could house most of the Turkish government possibly.
Forwyn Member	Sat Nov 01 11:02:34 "I do what I want"
pillz Member	Sat Nov 01 12:56:57 The US and Turkey may not see eye to eye on much, but at least they can stand firm as allies on wasteful spending.
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 01 13:00:00 Erdogan is a piece of shit. I just wanted to say that. At this point he believes he is indispensable, that Turkey = Erdogan. Term limits ftw
Forwyn Member	Sat Nov 01 13:06:22 Anti-free speech, racist, genocidal, willing to kill his own if they attempt to prevent massacres, etc, etc
State Department Member	Sat Nov 01 13:27:40 And horrible taste in architecture. What an ugly POS.
Rugian Member	Sat Nov 01 13:28:54 ^I was going to say. It doesn't even look that good. I'm all for spending hundreds of millions of dollars on opulent palaces, but this sucks.
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 01 13:35:26 Hmm, I didn't pay attention to the style, but looking at it now, it does look sucky.
Rugian Member	Sat Nov 01 13:44:11 As with all other things, Putin is so much more competent at this sort of thing. http://imgarcade.com/1/vladimir-putin-mansion/
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 01 13:45:59 I share birthday with Putin, he will always occupy a warm place in my heart
williamthebastard Member	Sat Nov 01 13:56:58 Its interesting that people with so much wealth continue to get up and go to the office every morning, people who could quite easily retire and live a very comfortable life. Im sure that free-marketism's key ethic is that if people didnt need money, they'd all stop producing and sit around taking drugs all day. I guess that would mean that everyone who reaches free marketisms goal of making it rich would thus immediately fail at that point.
pillz Member	Sat Nov 01 14:06:15 Glad you could fag up an otherwise fun thread wtb. The ultra-weathy go into politics in order to amass more wealth and more power, and to assist their friends and family in doing the same. This has been pretty common throughout all of forever and beyond.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Nov 01 14:08:41 I see. So only the plebs would stop doing anything if theyre were financially independent. The rich, however, continue to go to work everyday and chase goals, rather than become drugged up drones. But of course, plebs sometimes become rich people, and....oh this makes no sense!
williamthebastard Member	Sat Nov 01 14:11:12 I think we have to classify rich and poor as different races or perhaps species, since the poor apparently will only become drugged up zombies, while the rich become dedictaed and hard working job creators. Yes, thats the only explanation: a superior and an inferior race
Rugian Member	Sat Nov 01 14:22:24 I notice that ever since the Swedish aristocracy gave way to a low Gini coefficient and a large middle class, Swedish architecture has gone from decent to complete shit. So yeah, maybe plebs really can't be trusted with money.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sat Nov 01 15:26:48 What the fuck are you on about anyways wtb?
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Jun 26 08:10:02 http://www...res-a-stream-of-turkish-memes/ check out the gigantic dinner table
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Jun 26 09:23:23 Some not-quite-middle-easterner being tacky? Stop the presses...
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Jun 26 09:25:58 no, don't stop the presses. I find it enjoyable and amusing
Dakyron Member	Fri Jun 26 10:06:19 ""Let them tear it down if they can. They ordered its suspension, yet they can’t stop this building. I’ll be opening it; I’ll be moving in and using it.” " The public should take him up on his offer and storm the palace, loot it, and the burn it down, French Revolution style.
Paramount Member	Fri Jun 26 11:26:14 "At this point he believes he is indispensable, that Turkey = Erdogan." Yeah, but he do have the right to an opinion. Freedom of expression and opinion is what characterizes a democracy. I just wanted to say that.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Jun 26 11:28:14 he do, he definitely do.
Aeros Member	Fri Jun 26 12:51:15 It definitely is the pinnacle of North Korean style government architecture. Looks alot like the party headquarters in Pyongyang. http://cdn...02/5063726602_bcd7eae4fd_b.jpg
Rugian Member	Fri Jun 26 12:58:58 Ah, the inevitable march of progress. Humanity hit its architectural high in the 19th century and since then has gone completely off the rails. But I thought progression was always a good thing?
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Jun 26 14:03:25 Gothic architecture is the most appealing aesthetically. Everything now is slippery or angles. It's practical enough though.
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