Utopia Talk / Politics / Poll - Passive Aggressive polls

jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 10:19:19 Creating polls on passive aggression is very passive aggressive. Agree or disagree
Dakyron Member	Wed Mar 26 10:36:21 Agree
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Mar 26 10:37:53 What about creating polls on passive aggression polls?
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Wed Mar 26 10:39:51 that requires another poll.
Hood Member	Wed Mar 26 10:40:34 I think Arab already covered this... Jergul. Shut the fuck up.
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 10:43:54 Thats the spirit Hood!
Daemon Member	Wed Mar 26 10:44:29 (an empty message is passive aggressive)
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 10:47:17 Daemon The ultimate. Though responding in either thread is a bit passivy-aggressivy in any event. Except for hood. He was just aggressive.
Hood Member	Wed Mar 26 11:11:11 Precisely! (it had nothing to do with simply wanting to yell stfu at people, I promise)
TJ Member	Wed Mar 26 11:20:40 Everyone applies passive aggressive behavior at various levels at different times, but when the behavior is chronic you have a diagnosis of personality. An exorbitant amount of passive aggressive behavior can be found in this forum. duh But..., whatever ;).
Hood Member	Wed Mar 26 11:21:28 Excuse me, TJ?
TJ Member	Wed Mar 26 11:24:15 You're excused. lulz You can contribute that also to passive aggressive behavior.
Kaylana Moderator	Wed Mar 26 12:17:25 Points to jergul. But asking for a source to back up a claim is straight up aggressive. That isn't to say it isn't a valid request, just there's nothing passive about it. If you are ever confused by the two, a good rule of thumb to go by is to ask yourself whether the aggressor directly confronted his/her target or not.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Mar 26 12:54:48 So not only was Camaban not passive aggressive, but it turns out, Jergul was a cunt. Glad we could settle this so quickly.
chuck Member	Wed Mar 26 13:00:29 Some people.
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 13:04:16 Nimi You can easily confront your victim. Its more that you do not conflict the issue at hand. "Why don't you ever call me back" is a passive aggressive phrase you often hear I am sure. The wife/mother are not dealing with the actual issue (you being emotionally detached by their reckoning), but are instead focusing on a trigger that may or may not be true and is probably untrue. You are generally not passive-aggressive for reference. I like to catagorize the assholes I deal with in this forum appropriately.
Kaylana Moderator	Wed Mar 26 13:21:53 That's why I said "directly confronted." I thought that was enough to imply that an indirect confrontation counted, i.e. dancing around the issue that you're really upset about. That's what I get for assuming people knew how to infer.
Kaylana Moderator	Wed Mar 26 13:22:51 But I guess that means, jegul, you think Cam was demanding a source from you because of some other, unspoken upset that he has with you?
chuck Member	Wed Mar 26 13:26:10 Being passive aggressive in the thread about passive aggressiveness is not passive aggressive.
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Mar 26 13:29:07 If being passive aggressive in the thread about passive aggressiveness is not passive aggressive, then what is being passive aggressive? Its a simple question.
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 13:38:20 Kaylana I understood you correctly. Nimi however did not. Hence my posting to him, not to you :). Yepp. Not a source btw. Endless sources Its what goes for debating technique with him. Chuck Two passives make an assertive! We need to write that down.
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 13:42:46 CR Being assertive in a thread about passive aggressive is being passive agressive of course.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Mar 26 13:45:08 You regularly throw racist tantrums when someone asks you to provide a source for the bullshit you spew. This is cunt behavior. You have done everything possible to relegate yourself to troll status. Either you are a stupid cunt or a trolling cunt, either way, you are some kind of cunt.
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 13:52:47 Nimi Technically I only throw racist tantrums when people ask for sources and I am convinced that no number of sources would sway their minds. You should study more cunts btw. I am nothing like them.
Kaylana Moderator	Wed Mar 26 13:57:20 Understood. But are you sure that isn't just how he responds to most people?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Mar 26 14:08:00 >>I am convinced that no number of sources would sway their minds.<< Translated from Jergulspeak "I don't have any sources". Carry on.
Dakyron Member	Wed Mar 26 14:11:55 And to think, jergul was once one of the more "respected" members of the board...
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 14:11:56 I am pretty sure that is how he would deal with virtually anyone he felt the need to confront. But that would not be very many people in this forum. Which counts in his favour I suppose. He is not very good at confrontation because he has very little practice in it. I often point that out to him in the most unpleasants way possible.
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 14:15:08 Daky Oh I still am if "respect" is a term you can use about anyone and anything here. So rather, as respected as I have ever been. Some people just take fundamental disagreement too seriously and bark a lot about it.
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 14:18:59 Nimi There is not much to source from a firm belief that every revolution has its time and now is not the time. I thought and still think you are crazy for wanting a persian spring. The risk side is way too great. Notwithstanding your belief in "Persian Exceptionalism" Nothing here for you to be a complete asshat about. And again...happy new year :)
jergul large member	Wed Mar 26 14:25:44 Incidentally, I think the time is fast approaching. Do you want me to give you the goahead when I think the risks are acceptable? :)
Camaban The Overseer	Wed Mar 26 23:55:53 >>Yepp. Not a source btw. Endless sources Its what goes for debating technique with him. << You're saying that a source on what they were paying for is irrelevant to a debate on what they were paying for? It wasn't quite as spot on relevant as my ethnicity or lack of religion, but was pretty far from being a random request.
jergul large member	Thu Mar 27 02:46:17 Cam I am speaking of your general tendency to bury people in link requests when you dislike them. The link content is generally irrelevant to you and in the case mentioned I did indeed provide you with the information you needed. It established that the terms of the contract were confidential, but that Netflix was renting server capacity from Telenor, and a telenor spokesperson assured that the principles of net neutrality were being upheld. You of course then said this cannot be taken at face value and Telenor is paying for bandwidth anyway. Proving if nothing else the futility of giving you links. You don't want the information, you ask to quell discussion no matter the information provided. Passive-aggressive. Though not as passive aggressive as that poll you created of course. Its just your nature. You know no other way it seems.
jergul large member	Thu Mar 27 03:09:04 I am not claiming I am any better btw. I use barrels of unsavoury tactics when the mood suits me. The difference is that I am aware of what I do, and you seem unaware of what you do. Ultimately, I am not suggesting we become bbf. I just want you to recognize the limits of your current toolkit and find some new ways to be unpleasant. That would be quite within the spirit of this forum.
jergul large member	Thu Mar 27 03:09:31 bff*
Camaban The Overseer	Thu Mar 27 06:08:13 >>Cam I am speaking of your general tendency to bury people in link requests when you dislike them. The link content is generally irrelevant to you and in the case mentioned I did indeed provide you with the information you needed. << When I don't trust them. When I distrust someone to either be honest, or to have correctly interpreted what they are reading, or to have found a reliable source, I don't take what that person says at face value. Because I don't trust them. Morons take those they don't trust at face value. >>It established that the terms of the contract were confidential, but that Netflix was renting server capacity from Telenor, and a telenor spokesperson assured that the principles of net neutrality were being upheld.<< Which doesn't contradict anything that I had said. http://www.1ucolocation.co.uk/colocation-prices.html Is the above breaching net neutrality? http://www.poundhost.com/prices How about that? http://www.zen.co.uk/userfiles/documents/shared/site/col/colocation-hosting-product-guide.pdf Or this (Page 2) >>You of course then said this cannot be taken at face value and Telenor is paying for bandwidth anyway. << They are. Even if it's for the dedicated 10GBIT links, if they're not paying for bandwidth, they're not moving data. >>Proving if nothing else the futility of giving you links. You don't want the information, you ask to quell discussion no matter the information provided. << Examples? >>I am not claiming I am any better btw. I use barrels of unsavoury tactics when the mood suits me. << You do. Which is part of the reason why I don't trust you. >>The difference is that I am aware of what I do, and you seem unaware of what you do. << I am aware that I like data to be confirmed, because not everyone is entirely honest all the time. >>Ultimately, I am not suggesting we become bbf. I just want you to recognize the limits of your current toolkit and find some new ways to be unpleasant.<< Well, I could make reams of baseless claims, then throw tantrums and personal insults when I'm called on them, but that has already been taken.
jergul large member	Thu Mar 27 07:34:05 Fair enough, you are passive aggressive when "you don't trust someone". Do you feel the cliche in above? Its also pretty passive aggressive to post walls of text in an alternate thread because a passive aggressive thread you made is not getting the traction you feel it deserves. I would expect no different from you.
TJ Member	Thu Mar 27 10:03:30 No matter the technicality someone pays the price and that is the tail. Statistical fact is a minor endeavor when it comes to bundling as well as outside sources. It is a balancing act that most often pans out in net as disparities are a variable in the equation. Standard and easily workable for access and success if you want to be a player. No source is really necessary that isn't basic. Both of you are chumping when neither is gullible. I feel spunky this morning.
jergul large member	Thu Mar 27 10:53:30 TJ I tend to lead towards established accounting practices to determine what is what. If it is booked as A, then it is wrong to claim it actually is B. Or rather, it is a certified accountant's job to say that. It always boils down to "someone pays" of course. But still. Bookkeeping is important.
TJ Member	Thu Mar 27 11:07:27 Accounting is important, yes. Accounting procedure of data to a concept doesn't alter the factual data. There are always different methods to reach a desired goal. The method is for a purpose of negotiation. No none is fooling anyone involved with the process of making or losing net.
TJ Member	Thu Mar 27 11:14:54 I'll go as far to say that the method is designed to persuade public opinion since bundling or single source still remains customer based.
Camaban The Overseer	Thu Mar 27 11:48:22 >>Fair enough, you are passive aggressive when "you don't trust someone". Do you feel the cliche in above? << You take what people you don't trust say at face value? >>Its also pretty passive aggressive to post walls of text in an alternate thread because a passive aggressive thread you made is not getting the traction you feel it deserves. I would expect no different from you.<< That's a rather pathetic excuse to run away from an easily digestible and clearly formatted reply to points that you yourself have made in this thread. In the other thread, there's apparently nothing to debate. Why would I have wanted it any other way? >>I tend to lead towards established accounting practices to determine what is what. If it is booked as A, then it is wrong to claim it actually is B. Or rather, it is a certified accountant's job to say that. It always boils down to "someone pays" of course. But still. Bookkeeping is important.<< Part of the above post that you ran away from covers this: *************** http://www.1ucolocation.co.uk/colocation-prices.html Is the above breaching net neutrality? http://www.poundhost.com/prices How about that? http://www.zen.co.uk/userfiles/documents/shared/site/col/colocation-hosting-product-guide.pdf Or this (Page 2)
jergul large member	Thu Mar 27 17:24:56 Cam Its more that you are way off topic. Not that I mind and I do that myself more than often enough. But you are not owed a response to a wall of text that given the context is an expression of passive-aggressiveness. The same holds true for your last post.
Camaban The Overseer	Thu Mar 27 18:17:55 Always an excuse. Typical Jergul.
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