Utopia Talk / Politics / Janet Napolitano Pledges $5 Million

Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Oct 30 23:27:45 Janet Napolitano Pledges $5 Million To Aid Students Living In The U.S. Illegally By LISA LEFF 10/30/13 10:14 PM ET EDT AP SAN FRANCISCO -- SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — University of California President Janet Napolitano said Wednesday she is devoting $5 million to provide special counseling and financial aid for students living in the U.S. illegally, a move aimed at disarming critics who worried she would be hostile to the small but vocal student population. The former Homeland Security Secretary announced the initiative in her first public address since she became head of the 10-campus university system a month ago — an evening appearance in San Francisco organized by the Commonwealth Club. She also pledged $10 million for recruiting and training graduate students and research fellows. "Let me be clear. UC welcomes all students who qualify academically, whether they are documented or undocumented," she said in prepared remarks released by her office before the speech. "Consider this a down payment — one more piece of evidence of our commitment to all Californians." Napolitano said the money would be used "to support these students with resources like trained advisers, student service centers and financial aid," but did not immediately offer details about its source or possible conditions on its use. University officials estimate that out of a total student population of 239,000, the system enrolls about 900 students who were brought into the country illegally as children, a group of immigrants known as "Dreamers" because of the stalled U.S. Dream Act that would give certain youth a path to permanent residency. As part of a bill signed by Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, California this year started allowing students who are not legal U.S. residents and are therefore ineligible for most types of federal financial aid to apply for state grants and scholarships. Since her surprise appointment as the university's 20th president in July, Napolitano has devoted energy to alleviating the concerns of campus activists who worried she would be hostile to such immigrants because of her background in Washington and as a former governor of Arizona. She met with student groups representing so-called dreamers on the day she was confirmed and during her first day on the job. In her prepared remarks, Napolitano also addressed faculty skeptics who have questioned her qualifications to lead the University of California given her lack of experience in academia. http://www...ano-student-aid_n_4179864.html I'm sure the State of California can take this out of petty cash.
jergul large member	Wed Oct 30 23:35:41 If only Ayn Rand have been given such an opportunity when arriving in the US on a 1-year family visit visa. A skilled graduate of a Soviet Academy remains undocumented when that visa expired until she gained a state marriage license many years later.
jergul large member	Wed Oct 30 23:46:22 And while on topic. Who could George Romney possibly have spawned such a POS as was his son?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Oct 30 23:57:00 I don't think they allowed illegals to become Citizens back then. "Arrival in America A brown book cover with black-and-white drawings and text in Russian. The drawing on the left is a portrait of a woman with dark hair; the drawing on the right is of skyscrapers. Cover of Rand's first published work, a 2,500-word monograph on femme fatale Pola Negri published in 1925.[21] In the fall of 1925, Rand was granted a visa to visit American relatives. She departed on January 17, 1926.[25] When she arrived in New York City on February 19, 1926, she was so impressed with the skyline of Manhattan that she cried what she later called "tears of splendor".[26] Intent on staying in the United States to become a screenwriter, she lived for a few months with relatives in Chicago, one of whom owned a movie theater and allowed her to watch dozens of films for free. She then set out for Hollywood, California.[27] Initially, Rand struggled in Hollywood and took odd jobs to pay her basic living expenses. A chance meeting with famed director Cecil B. DeMille led to a job as an extra in his film The King of Kings as well as subsequent work as a junior screenwriter.[28] While working on The King of Kings, she met an aspiring young actor, Frank O'Connor; the two were married on April 15, 1929. Rand became an American citizen in 1931. Taking various jobs during the 1930s to support her writing, she worked for a time as the head of the costume department at RKO Studios.[29] She made several attempts to bring her parents and sisters to the United States, but they were unable to acquire permission to emigrate." WIKI "One of the Portnoys’ children, Sarah, owned a movie theater, which made it easier to obtain Communist Party permission to study film in America, as Vladimir Lenin had designated cinema as the most important art. Milgram (English literature professor Shoshana Milgram, an Ayn Rand scholar and biographer who teaches at Virginia Tech) wrote that Alice Rosenbaum landed in New York on February 19, 1926. Within days, she boarded a train bound for Chicago." "When she was able to renew her visa when it expired, Ayn Rand decided that it was time to go to Hollywood and she traveled again by train, carrying in her possession a letter of recommendation to a studio owned by DeMille. It’s in and near Hollywood that Ayn Rand wrote her first movies and novels, including Anthem and We the Living." http://sco...ews-ideas/ayn-rand-in-chicago/ jergul, I know it has become a favorite hobby of yours, but you can quit lying now.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Wed Oct 30 23:58:10 I wonder who is more hated by UC students; her today or whoever the UC prez was during the Free Speech Movement.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Wed Oct 30 23:58:58 Who is/was more hated at the time, I should say.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:04:25 That is because UC is now a nest of liberal adolescents.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:05:44 Meaning, if she is selected now.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Oct 31 00:10:32 wtf are you talking about? Virtually the entire student body of the University of California hates her.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:14:50 I wasn't sure if I made myself clear, but that being the case. "That is because UC is now a nest of liberal adolescents."
roland Member	Thu Oct 31 00:26:22 Didnt know Napolitano is a Republican.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:32:03 She is a democrat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Napolitano
jergul large member	Thu Oct 31 00:32:24 HR Renewing a 6 month visa just gives her another 6 months. I thought the visa was 1-year, not 2x6 months. She renewed a license to visit relatives, then left for a place where she had no relatives. Hmmm. No wonder she had to wait in New-York. But there would be no basis for a 3rd renewal for that reason. The State eventually granted her a marriage certificate used then for the purpose of naturalization. She was only an undocumented alien for a number of years. Nowhere near most of the years she spent in the US before dying of a self-inflicted illness despite taxpayer paid medicare funded treatment.
roland Member	Thu Oct 31 00:33:43 If she is not a Republican, why wouldnt the liberal adolescents like her?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:35:01 Because she was head of the border patrol that sent thousands of illegals back to where they cane from.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Oct 31 00:39:58 And, you know, the whole NSA thing.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:45:22 jergul, this is my last on this subject. "One of the Portnoys’ children, Sarah, owned a movie theater, which made it easier to obtain Communist Party permission to study film in America..." "When she was able to renew her visa when it expired, Ayn Rand decided that it was time to go to Hollywood and she traveled again by train, carrying in her possession a letter of recommendation to a studio owned by DeMille." Which allowed her to not only study films, but gave her a chance to work in the industry. While there is nothing there to indicate she kept renewing her visa, there is absolutely nothing in your remarks that proves she didn't. Common sense tells me that she continued renewing her visa and may even have changed it into a work visa. Now show me documentation that proves she spent even one minute as an illegal in this country you lying sack of shit or STFU.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:48:00 earthpig - And, you know, the whole NSA thing. "The National Security Agency (NSA) is the main producer and manager of signals intelligence for the United States. Estimated to be one of the largest of U.S. intelligence organizations in terms of personnel and budget,[5][7] the NSA operates under the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense and reports to the Director of National Intelligence." Actually I thought they were part of the executive branch. I guess we were both wrong.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Oct 31 00:52:00 Jesus fuck, HR.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 00:54:20 Am I wrong or did I misunderstand you? I thought you were saying she, personally, was head of the NSA because of Homeland Security?
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Oct 31 00:57:34 a) If you think NSA and DHS don't coordinate efforts and share technology, I've got a big red bridge to sell you. b) NSA and DHS both fall under executive branch authority.
jergul large member	Thu Oct 31 01:04:07 HR We know lied on the exit visa from the USSR. We are however speaking of her becoming an undocumented alien in the US after her 2nd 6 month visit relatives extention expired. Needless to say that she got that fraudulently too, as she immediately left for California after gaining the extention. Admirable this practical objectivism. On a side note - Did you know that between 1931-40, the US saw a net migration. More people left the US than arrived. Rand almost became a Canadian by that metric.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 01:04:43 Of course they share information, thanks to Bush. But, NSA does not fall under the the DHS umbrella which was her department. She had nothing whatsoever to do with the NSA which falls under the DOD. Actually, all of government except the USSC and Congress fall under the executive branch. I was saying that I thought NSA was directly under the president. Bedtime. Night, night.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 01:08:54 jergul, you are a much bigger piece of shit than I am because I admitted my lie and apologized for it, several times. But, you keep spewing the same lie without offering a shred of proof. When it comes to being a liar, I am ten times a better man than you are because I admitted my lie.
jergul large member	Thu Oct 31 01:20:56 I clarified. I believed she had been given a year long visa to visit relatives. Your source shows whe was given a 6 month visa to visit relatives and thereafter a 6 month extention of that visa. Then she left for california to persue a career with no relatives. Then she got married and gained a state marriage license to use to anchor her naturalization.
jergul large member	Thu Oct 31 01:22:13 Why do you care that she was an undocumented alien from a communist country anyway? Her purpose was clearly self-serving. Is that not a good thing?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 05:07:16 ^- BIG FAT LIAR.
jergul large member	Thu Oct 31 06:36:46 She got medicare under a false name trying to avert the inevitable outcome of lung cancer I believe. I am having trouble spotting the lie btw. Sure I said a 1 year visa when in fact it was 2x6 months Before she used the family visit visa to go where she had no family. Over in California. Self-Serving objectivism in practice. Do you see something wrong with it?
river of blood Member	Thu Oct 31 08:55:18 Where the fuck did this bitch get 15 million dollars from? What was her salary when she was our head security nazi?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 31 08:59:41 She got it from the State of California. She is now The President of he University of California.
Dakyron Member	Thu Oct 31 09:03:17 "Didnt know Napolitano is a Republican. " She is a democrat who loves, LOVES illegal immigrants, hates men, and hates America.
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