Utopia Talk / Politics / A Query For Liberals.

Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:02:20 Are any of the scandals legitimate? If so, which one(s)? And Why?
pillz Member	Mon Jul 29 00:10:11 The senate expense scandal is legitimate.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:12:31 I did not know there was a Senate expense scandal. Please tell us about it.
Aeros Member	Mon Jul 29 00:15:45 What scandals are we referring too? Many so called scandals you have been bringing up all the time are scripted incidents from the Faux Noise staff writers pool.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:16:56 I'm asking you. Which scandals, if any, are legitimate?
Aeros Member	Mon Jul 29 00:17:40 There haven't been any scandals.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:19:08 Noted.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jul 29 00:26:40 those political groups applying for tax-exempt status were pretty scandalous
Aeros Member	Mon Jul 29 00:30:05 The fact that nobody went to jail because of the financial crisis.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:31:46 So you are saying it is not a scandal until it is resolved and someone goes to jail. Again, noted.
Aeros Member	Mon Jul 29 00:33:34 You do realize you sound like a self important downs syndrom patient, right?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:38:41 I sound like someone who asked a question. And you answered it.
Aeros Member	Mon Jul 29 00:40:13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:44:39 Why is it you have to attack anyone who asks you a simple question? I saw a clip awhile ago where a city official slapped the microphone out of the hand of a reporter who asked a simple question. He wanted to know why the city spent $63 Million on a new building for fire department offices for the executives when some of the firetrucks in the city are incapable of pumping water on a fire.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:49:08 I asked a question and you answered it. You said there were no scandals. I have accepted your answer. Why are you wrecking the thread over a question that was asked and answered? Never mind, please don't answer. Now that you have answered the question please leave the thread.
Aeros Member	Mon Jul 29 00:50:00 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regress_argument
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 00:53:40 Out of 16 posts I have gotten three answers to my question. I thank you for you answer, now please stop ruining the thread or I promise you I will return the favor every time you start a thread. Thank you for your participation in my survey.
ehcks Member	Mon Jul 29 02:00:58 You did not, in fact, ask a question. You posted a fallacy. What incidents are we talking about, which you would call a scandal, for others to call legitimate or not?
roland Member	Mon Jul 29 03:02:59 I think Hot Rod called Ron Paul traitor is a scandal. What do you think?
jergul large member	Mon Jul 29 03:03:26 US military spending is quite a scandal. You really need to spend more on it than the rest of the world combined without thinking it an ongoing scandal?
Hot Stick Member	Mon Jul 29 03:09:13 What about Obama destroying the respect the world once held for us by bowing to foreigners every time he gets the opportunity?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 06:27:30 Screw it. You guys won't even answer a simple survey question. It is obvious which scandals I am talking about, the ones that have been in the news recently. If you have watched the news. So only tumbleweed thinks one of them is a scandal. So be it.
Average Ameriacn Member	Mon Jul 29 06:41:56 Benghazi.
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roland Member	Mon Jul 29 07:12:10 " It is obvious which scandals I am talking about, the ones that have been in the news recently. If you have watched the news. " So you werent just asking questions this time? Lol, wow.
patom Member	Mon Jul 29 08:36:07 The question should read what is the most humorous incidents in recent Washington/national politics. Scandalous is being used so much to describe the actions of both political sides that scandal has been worn down to the point it has no real meaning. Just SNAFU.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 09:34:07 patom, which do you think is the most "humorous" incident? 1. The one where 4 American were killed 2. The one where we supplied weapons to the drug cartels that have been used in the deaths of 200 people, mostly Mexicans, that we know of so far. Please answer, I would really like to know what you think is funny.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 09:41:10 roland - " It is obvious which scandals I am talking about, the ones that have been in the news recently. If you have watched the news. " So you werent just asking questions this time? Lol, wow. Yes, I was asking about the scandals that have been reported in the news. I could not very well ask a question about scandals that the public knows nothing about. Could I? Your logic overwhelms me. If you need further clarification, I did not think it necessary to post this, but apparently it is for some of you. I was indeed referring to the scandals that your president has called "phony".
jergul large member	Mon Jul 29 09:43:00 Nothing compared to the scandal of Iraq dear friend. How many died there?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 09:51:42 I have already agreed that it was an error to go into Iraq, even though there was *some* justification. But, once we were in we needed to support the troops instead of calling them baby killers. My main point of contention about Iraq is that many called Bush a liar saying he made up reasons to go into Iraq, while 12 years later there is still not one shred of evidence that he did. Now, can we move on from Iraq to the scandals which are more relevant to the current situation.
honest politician Member	Mon Jul 29 12:10:56 @HR The death of the 4 americans killed in Benghazi pales into absolute insignificance compared to Iraq. When it comes to Iraq, you just want to move on as quickly as possible so you're not really acknowledging the colossal clusterfuck that it was. You have more concern for the Benghazi Four than for even ONE young man who's life is now in tatters because he has lost half his face, or a leg, wife, memory, sanity, or happyness. Why don't you just piss on Pat Tillmans grave?
Rugian Member	Mon Jul 29 12:12:30 Didn't Pat Tillman die in Afghanistan?
honest politician Member	Mon Jul 29 12:16:01 I haven't a clue, nor did I care for the purpose of writing that. Same place as far as most Murkans are concerned though. They're all muslims right?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 12:35:52 hp - When it comes to Iraq, you just want to move on as quickly as possible so you're not really acknowledging the colossal clusterfuck that it was. I thought I did that in my last post. "I have already agreed that it was an error to go into Iraq, even though there was *some* justification." If it will make you happy; yes, it was a huge clusterfuck. There is no doubt about that. Now can we move on to current events? Pat Tillman fought in Afghanistan, not Iraq. What next, The American Civil War or The American Revolution? Please stick to the subject of the thread or go away. And if you do not "have a clue" what you are talking then that is all the more reason to move on to another thread,
pillz Member	Mon Jul 29 12:48:54 http://www...d-what-s-been-repaid-1.1355913
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 14:01:02 pillz, I was thinking more in terms of The US scandals, but that appears to be a valid scandal in the land of our Northern neighbors.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Jul 29 14:05:43 "What next, The American Civil War or The American Revolution? " Woodrow Wilson!
patom Member	Mon Jul 29 15:01:03 I think it humorous that the Republican party AKA Tea Party is showing more concern over 4 diplomats who were working in Libya at a consulate that had the funding pulled from security by Congress. They seem to forget the 200+ Marines that were blown up in Beirut when they were sent into a shooting war zone and told they couldn't carry loaded weapons. Can't say anything bad about Saint Ronnie Reagan.
honest politician Member	Mon Jul 29 15:24:37 "I thought I did that in my last post. "I have already agreed that it was an error to go into Iraq, even though there was *some* justification." If it will make you happy; yes, it was a huge clusterfuck. There is no doubt about that. Now can we move on to current events? Pat Tillman fought in Afghanistan, not Iraq. What next, The American Civil War or The American Revolution? Please stick to the subject of the thread or go away. And if you do not "have a clue" what you are talking then that is all the more reason to move on to another thread," You only say so in agreement with somebody else, but why doesn't it make your blood boil? It's just a question, Integrity Rod. Why do you just agree and want to move on? It's firmly imprinted in the annals of history, and has had far more implications for the US than some embassy staff. Why don't you want Georgy and Blair on trial for war crimes? Yes yes Pat Tillman was in Afghanistan, not Iraq. Point still stands, you don't care about the people that actually went to either of the countries. People who volunteered(?) their lives and limbs. Point still stands.
roland Member	Mon Jul 29 16:21:49 "Yes, I was asking about the scandals that have been reported in the news. I could not very well ask a question about scandals that the public knows nothing about. Could I? " You clearly is trying to steer the thread to a particular direction. That is not "just asking the question." " I was indeed referring to the scandals that your president has called "phony". " They are phony, because Republicans' charge is the WH is allowing them to happen deliberately or there is a cover up. All of these claims so far are backed up by no evidence.
obaminated Member	Mon Jul 29 17:35:18 No, there are no scandals currently occurring according to our liberal friends.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Jul 29 18:07:21 I thought snooping on AP and Fox reporters was a scandal. Targeting and killing an American citizen was a scandal. Impeachable offense even. I can't see GOP behaving any differently though, if it was president McCain or Romney instead of Obama. Everything else was phony, ginned up outrage. Not that some screw ups didn't happened, stuff is going to happen in huge organizations like the federal government. But scandals? No.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 29 19:09:13 hp, why do you insist on bring up stuff that is long past. It is the same as if you were trying to conduct a survey on current affairs and I brought up Clinton's committing perjury before a grand jury or The Gulf of Tonkin. roland, so you say they are all phony, thanks for your submission.
roland Member	Mon Jul 29 19:14:12 " No, there are no scandals currently occurring according to our liberal friends. " More like what Republicans think is a scandal isnt a scandal. THe NSA spying is probably a scandal, but the Republican House just voted down the bill to stop it. So they cant attack it because they would have done the same too.
cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Mon Jul 29 20:19:51 @op Water gate. i shouldnt have to explain why.
cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Mon Jul 29 20:20:54 oh, actually, none are legitimate. if they were legitimate, they wouldn't be scandals.
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