Utopia Talk / Politics / Petraeus Resigns

Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 09 14:09:41 For personal reasons.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 09 14:10:48 Extramarital affair.
Hillarys Intern Member	Fri Nov 09 14:11:13 What???
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:11:52 Petraeus was apparently cheating on his wife. Awesome.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:12:02 after admitting to an extra-marital affair???? This is LOL and also insane. So he fucked somebody, so what? Is this because he is CIA and can't be susceptible to blackmail ? I guess it is an ok reason but still..
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Nov 09 14:12:08 This will surely end Obama's reelection campaign.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:12:56 October Surprise?
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:13:45 What woman would agree to be a mistress for Petraeus? I mean, powerful men are always more attractive to women, but the guy is one ugly bastard.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:14:11 This is crazy, the guy was supposed to be the next homeland director and, after that, the sky was the limit, with his resume.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:14:22 Not to mention since he's all CIA and shit, there was a good chance she would have ended up dead if he wanted to initiate a coverup.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:15:42 he clearly waited until election was over. Was it his idea or was he told to do it?
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:16:35 Infidelity is a crime in the Armed Forces. I don't know what the CIA rule on it is, but I'm sure they frown upon it, for the reason you already stated.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:17:27 Yeah, I bet you are correct. I wonder how they caught him, and who? Spooks?
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:22:14 PETRAEUS RESIGNATION LETTER HEADQUARTERS Central Intelligence Agency 9 November 2012 Yesterday afternoon, I went to the White House and asked the President to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position as D/CIA. After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours. This afternoon, the President graciously accepted my resignation. As I depart Langley, I want you to know that it has been the greatest of privileges to have served with you, the officers of our Nation's Silent Service, a work force that is truly exceptional in every regard. Indeed, you did extraordinary work on a host of critical missions during my time as director, and I am deeply grateful to you for that. Teddy Roosevelt once observed that life's greatest gift is the opportunity to work hard at work worth doing. I will always treasure my opportunity to have done that with you and I will always regret the circumstances that brought that work with you to an end. Thank you for your extraordinary service to our country, and best wishes for continued success in the important endeavors that lie ahead for our country and our Agency. With admiration and appreciation, David H. Petraeus Read more: http://www...ns-head-CIA.html#ixzz2Bl76hK6D Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 09 14:24:24 Ike had a mistress in England during the war, I don't see a big deal. Why does that always bring down good men, but schmucks like the Kennedy's get away with it.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:25:25 "Ike had a mistress in England during the war, I don't see a big deal. Why does that always bring down good men, but schmucks like the Kennedy's get away with it. " You do realize that you just called Ike a shmuck?
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:29:03 I don't think Ike was brought down by it though? And Kennedy was so popular among the members of the press that they would have buried a story about him murdering a hooker in the Oval Office in exchange for a weekend at JFK's Hyannis retreat. They certainly didn't give a shit about some little marital indiscretions.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 09 14:33:39 That was then, it is now that good men are brought down and the schmucks get away with it.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:36:50 Lately, Rod wept for John Edwards, Elliot Spitzer and Anthony Weiner.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:37:49 And Larry Craig, of course. Good man.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:39:12 Good men don't cheat on their wives.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:44:06 I want to see pics of the other woman.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 14:45:04 Spetsnaz is probably torturing her for information in some Siberian dungeon as we speak.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:45:32 I would not have accepted his resignation, if I were the president. Fuck it, everyone who has means to have affairs, has affairs. I trust my CIA Director is smart enough not to be blackmailed. "Good men don't cheat on their wives." You are correct. In general. But I only accept this point from people who have been married as long as Petreaus.
roland Member	Fri Nov 09 14:45:40 JB too?
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:53:21 This is a remarkable development, come to think of it. Just something unprecedented, nothing you would ever expect to happen, especially with the guy like petreaus. In Russia, Putin just fired his Defense Minister, and one of his alleged crimes was cheating on his wife. Now, this is absolutely normal in Russia, but the idiot was married to one of Putin's oldest friends' daughter.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Nov 09 14:53:38 Good men don't have wives.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:57:17 I say Petraeus recovers from this, politically. Especially if his wife stays with him. I mean, I don't know if he wants to stay in politics. But, if he does, he recovers. Republican Party gladly takes him. Dems would too.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 14:58:26 Unless, of course, it turns out that his wife was dying from cancer, while he banged his mistress. Then john Edwards might stage a comeback.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 15:02:53 And republitards are going insane... family values ftw! ----------------------------------- "Laura Ingraham ‏@IngrahamAngle COINCIDENCE?! Petraeus is set to testify NEXT week at a closed door session on Capitol Hill abt Benghazi. Did BHO push him out? This stinks!
roland Member	Fri Nov 09 15:05:44 Gingrich seems to do OK, he still lecturing people on moral value despite cheating on his wives, he also got hot rods support when he ran for president.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 15:05:52 EDWARDS-PETRRAEUS 2016
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 15:06:22 Boy, twitter is going crazy "Nate Silver only had chances of a Petraeus affair at 43.5%." lmao
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 15:09:59 Twitter libertarians are also chiming in,, Brian Doherty ‏@brianmdoherty @willwilkinson "Murder is duty; sex is sin."
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 15:16:27 @simonsam This country's in trouble if the head of the CIA can't even keep his affair a secret.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Fri Nov 09 15:18:33 > Infidelity is a crime in the Armed Forces. I don't know what the CIA rule on it is, It's an issue for the clearance. Lower level folks lose their clearances all the time for shit found out that cold theoretically have been used to blackmail them into divulging secrets had the enemy found out before Uncle Sam. You're supposed to keep yourself un-blackmail-able. For lower level folks, the question is, "if you let yourself be vulnerable to blackmail in this area, how do we know there aren't a dozen other areas?" I commend him for falling on his sword and holding himself to the same high standards as his subordinates, though obviously it would have been better to, um, not make himself vulnerable to blackmail in the first place. (Incidentally, if someone DOES try to blackmail you... you're supposed to do exactly what Petraeus just did and fess up immediately so that the blackmail can't work. But that is speculation.)
KreeL Special Member	Fri Nov 09 15:34:21 Pants on the flooooor! Hat on the siiiide!
Obaminated Member	Fri Nov 09 15:41:14 It is very odd timing, presumably an extra marital affair could have been swept under the rug. But the timing of it all is strange. Days after the election, with Benghazi hearings coming up and the barbs the CIA and State Department kept hurling at each other about who knew what and when. I dunno if BHO is capable of forcing Petraeus to resign, probably something we don't know about forced his hand. Or maybe Petraeus really is that honorable that he would resign after fucking an intern.
Obaminated Member	Fri Nov 09 15:42:25 But yes, CR is right, Petraeus can recover from this maybe even by 2016. Which could also be why he is leaving the Obama administration and getting out ahead of this affair before anyone else can make an issue of it. Assuming Petraeus has the desire to be Commander in Chief. Many possibilities.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 15:49:39 @BloombergNews: BREAKING: Lockheed's Kubasik, slated next CEO, resigns over relationship Wtf is going on?
Obaminated Member	Fri Nov 09 16:03:14 Now this thickens the plot "Reader “Flip” makes a nice catch. Petraeus’s resignation letter says, “After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair.” But Petraeus has actually been married for more than 38 years; the wedding was on July 6, 1974. In other words, if you read the resignation letter carefully, he’s telling you that this happened sometime between July 2011 and July 2012, not recently. Why didn’t he resign sooner? Or, on the flip side, why didn’t he try to hang on longer if he’d held on this long already?" & "Senate Intelligence Committee says Petraeus will not testify at next week’s closed hearing on the events in Benghazi."
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 16:37:28 http://m.paulabroadwell.com/#!Authors|page This is the woman, apparently. Not bad. She is the author of the book about Petreaus.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 16:41:24 I'm not seeing anything on Google News about her. You sure about this?
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 09 16:42:17 @BreakingNews: FBI investigating Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell for improperly trying to access his email, officials tell @NBCNews
Obaminated Member	Fri Nov 09 16:59:47 Russian spy! I hope so!
Aeros Member	Fri Nov 09 17:00:04 Why can't these guys keep their dicks in their pants? And before somebody says "don't be a prude", the last person in the US Gov we want to have palling around random women is the head of the CIA.
Obaminated Member	Fri Nov 09 17:00:48 Not bad indeed. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3Bcqn,rate_low%3D0.035,rate_high%3D0.035,min_length%3D2,cconf%3D1.2,second_pass%3Dfalse,num_suggestions%3D1,ignore_bad_origquery%3Dtrue&cp=15&gs_id=7&xhr=t&q=paula+broadwell&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38093640&biw=1013&bih=459&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=_YqdUP-yG6quiQLc6oGICw
Obaminated Member	Fri Nov 09 17:02:35 I wonder if Petraeus went All In with Paula Broadwell....
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 09 17:03:09 "Slate's Fred Kaplan reports that the woman Petraeus had an affair with was Paula Broadwell, author of All In: The Education of General David Petraeus." http://www...ver-extramarital-affair/58876/ Unfortunate book title. Not as bad as "Touched: the Jerry Sandusky Story," but still unfortunate.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Fri Nov 09 18:07:25 “Presumably, he could have resigned without the confession. So why did he offer it? wrote Paul Mirengoff at the conservative blog PowerLine. “…First, the confession could have been an attempt to preempt the theory that his resignation is Benghazigate related — it provides an alternative explanation. Second, the confession eliminates the opportunity for others (such as folks in the White House) to try to influence his future conduct, including potential statements and/or testimony about Benghazi.” Read more: http://www...83654_Page2.html#ixzz2Bm1jJLY0 So, contrary to the CT narrative, this guy is saying this frees him up to testify without conflict of interest.
Obaminated Member	Fri Nov 09 18:13:48 Because he resigned he is no longer testifying on Benghazi next week.
roland Member	Sat Nov 10 04:33:17 While David Petraeus was still serving as a four-star general in the U.S. Army, he began exchanging emails with the woman who would eventually write his biography. After Petraeus retired from military service and accepted a new post -- director of the Central Intelligence Agency -- those email exchanges, it's believed, turned into something else: an affair. The affair might have concluded as so many others do -- temporarily clandestine, permanently concealed -- were it not for the technology that helped to ignite it in the first place. The FBI, the Wall Street Journal reports, began to suspect that Petraeus's personal Gmail account had been hacked -- so it launched an inquiry to determine whether someone else was accessing his email messages. In the process, the agency discovered what Google's servers had known all along: that the head of the CIA, the keeper of the country's secrets, had been keeping a secret of his own. So how could a (potentially) hacked email account lead to resignation of one of the most powerful men in the nation? Why, if the account in question is a personal one, does it matter? Because when you're the director of the CIA, very few things are, strictly speaking, personal. Your Gmail account certainly isn't. Even the most mundane elements of your life can relate in their way to the interests of the nation. "The computer-security investigation -- which raised questions about a potential compromise to national security -- points to one reason Mr. Petraeus and the White House decided he couldn't remain in the senior intelligence position," the Journal explains. And that's partly because an extramarital affair has significant implications for an official in a highly sensitive post, because it can open an official to blackmail. Security officials are sensitive to misuse of personal email accounts -- not only official accounts -- because there have been multiple instances of foreign hackers targeting personal emails. Intelligence, in other words, can compromise government agencies as much as it can empower them. Petraeus's affair wasn't just an affair; it was a potential security breach. One that was allowed to take place in part because the decorated war hero had done what millions of his fellow Americans do every day: He sent some emails.
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 10 08:10:24 "Current and former U.S. military officials said suspicions of infidelities had followed Petraeus for several years." http://www...da299503684_story.html?hpid=z1
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 10 08:48:18 NY Post with the best cover, as usual http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7WLc80CYAAHcf3.jpg
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 10 09:36:26 Martha Raddatz ‏@MarthaRaddatz "Official tells me sevral people who knew Petraeus got anonymous harassing emails. So investigation started. Emails then traced to Broadwell." heh
chen Member	Sat Nov 10 12:42:08 So that general betray-us thing really wasn't that out of line in the end??? Anyway goes to show you that even the head of the freaking CIA can't cover up cheating in this day and age.
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 10 12:55:24 You can't cover up long term affairs, it is impossible. One night stands, preferably not in the city where you live, thats the only way to do it. Or, just pay money, professionals don't care. But once she has your contact info, you are finished, it is only a matter of time. Everybody gets caught because of their cell phones, sms, emails, facebook, etc.
Renzo Marquez Member	Sat Nov 10 13:05:10 CrownRoyal Member Sat Nov 10 09:36:26 "Official tells me sevral people who knew Petraeus got anonymous harassing emails. So investigation started. Emails then traced to Broadwell." So she's a psycho.
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 10 13:09:36 If harassing emails were from her, then yeah. But nothing definitive yet. Maybe it was from her husband, or kids?
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Nov 10 13:28:08 the harassing emails were from her, but not to Petreaus. http://www...-of-david-petraeus-affair.html WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. investigation that led to the resignation of David H. Petraeus as C.I.A. director on Friday began with a complaint several months ago about “harassing” e-mails sent by Paula Broadwell, Mr. Petraeus’s biographer, to an unidentified third person, a government official briefed on the case said on Saturday. When F.B.I. agents following up on the complaint began to examine Ms. Broadwell’s e-mails, they discovered exchanges between her and Mr. Petraeus that revealed that they were having an affair, said the official, who spoke of the investigation on the condition of anonymity. The person who complained about harassing messages from Ms. Broadwell, according to the official, was not a family member or a government official. One Congressional official who was briefed on the matter on Friday said senior intelligence officials had explained that the F.B.I. investigation “started with two women.” “It didn’t start with Petraeus, but in the course of the investigation they stumbled across him,” said the Congressional official, who said the intelligence officials had provided no other information about the two women or the focus of the inquiry. “We were stunned.”
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 11 00:19:26 I have a feeling that Petraeus is going to drop a huge bomb at the Benghazi hearings.
Wrath of Orion Member	Sun Nov 11 00:47:53 He probably doesn't know about your pedophilia unless he follows UP.
KreeL Special Member	Sun Nov 11 00:58:26 Petraeus already signed off on the CIA timeline for the Benghazi incident. Most likely he'll place the blame where it is due, and condemn the Lybian security forces. Of course, hotrod watches fox news and their angle might be far different from reality. Tell us about it, roddy.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 11 06:41:06 FOX is the only one who has covered this story in depth and the reporter, Catherine Herridge, deserves a Pulitzer.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Nov 11 07:19:18 Memorable detail in WaPo Broadwell story (http://t.co/4zAMSEKT): was celebrating birthday w. husband & friends when Petraeus affair broke. That must have been uncomfortable
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Nov 11 07:26:15 Learn how to post a link.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Nov 11 07:33:31 Learn how to be sexually attracted to adults
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Nov 11 08:17:46 "The collapse of the impressive career of CIA Director David H. Petraeus was triggered when a woman with whom he was having an affair sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to him, according to three senior law enforcement officials with know­ledge of the episode." So he was doing two women at the same time? That's how Bernard Kerik went down, remember that guy?
Obaminated Member	Sun Nov 11 15:36:42 Two women? Or just his wife and his mistress?
Obaminated Member	Sun Nov 11 15:49:34 nope, the 3rd women or whatever is 37-year-old Jill Kelley, she works for the State Department. Ruh roh http://www...eblower-talked-first-to-house/
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Nov 11 15:53:10 "The collapse of the impressive career of CIA Director David H. Petraeus was triggered when a woman with whom he was having an affair sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to him, according to three senior law enforcement officials with know­ledge of the episode. The recipient of the e-mails was so frightened that she went to the FBI for protection and help tracking down the sender, according to the officials. The FBI investigation traced the threats to Paula Broadwell, a former military officer and a Petraeus biographer, and uncovered explicit e-mails between Broadwell and Petraeus, the officials said. The woman who received the e-mails was Jill Kelley in Tampa, Fla., according to law enforcement officials. The nature of her relationship with Petraeus is unknown." I don't know if the general was doing that Jill Kelley woman too, but why would Broadwell send threatening emails to her?
Obaminated Member	Sun Nov 11 15:56:27 Assuming Petraeus wasn't screwing Jill Kelley, it may be that Jill convinced Petraeus to stop the affair and Broadwell went after her for that. Or it could be that Jill was fucking Broadwell's husband. Who knows? This is rapidly turning into a soap opera.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Nov 11 16:03:09 I guess we'll find out. But you know what they say about affairs, it's either one or many. Cant be two. So, if Petreaus was also fucking Kelley, in addition to Broadwell, prepare for a Tiger Woods-type unravelling.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Nov 11 16:04:01 Can't some mod fix this thread? For gods sake, this is ridiculous
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