Utopia Talk / Politics / Iran Armed Conflict Betting Pool

earthpig GTFO HOer	Sat Jan 14 21:57:44 Just as SecDef was taking off after declaring victory in Iraq a few months ago, *just* as the aircraft was getting off the ground SecDef was talking to a reporter and laying out the very rough timetable for military conflict with Iran. I have no idea why the fuck Democrats are somehow seen as the political party of peace. Obama "needs" to be reelected, and if some Iranians have to get blown up in the process to get last minute swing votes so be it. So, we should have a betting pool. I call September 2012.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jan 14 21:59:28 I call March madness.
Sam Adams Member	Sat Jan 14 22:02:33 I still don't think the democrats have the balls to start a fight, but I hope they do. It will be funny to see all the dumbass hypocrits on both sides who were once anti-war who are now pro-war, and vice versa. But more fun will be watching all those muslims bleed and burn to death.
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 14 22:08:28 molehill climber - I still don't think the democrats have the balls to start a fight, but I hope they do. WWI WWII Korea Vietnam The four biggest wars of the 20th Century, all started by democrats.
Sam Adams Member	Sat Jan 14 22:10:00 hamas rod is extra butthurt because the child from all his dreams, tim tebow the god freak, got fucking pwnt.
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 14 22:11:55 I thought him a good roll model for the liberals.
Arab Member	Sat Jan 14 22:13:10 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa muslims
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 14 22:14:45 Scraqtch that, make that a good roll model for the social conservatives.
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 14 22:15:16 *-Scratch
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sat Jan 14 22:27:43 'molehill climber - I still don't think the democrats have the balls to start a fight, but I hope they do. WWI WWII Korea Vietnam The four biggest wars of the 20th Century, all started by democrats.' Perhaps the biggest fail in UP history. WWI and WWII were not started by America. America jumped in at the last minute and to this day claims credit for 'winning' both wars.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 03:21:42 WWI - The Lusitania was carrying arms for England in violation of our neutrality. WWII - We had an oil embargo against Japan because the were fighting a war against China that was none of our business.
jergul Member	Sun Jan 15 03:24:22 Hot Rod is right.
MrPresident07 Member	Sun Jan 15 03:31:23 May.
WilliamTheBastard Member	Sun Jan 15 04:10:36 WWI WWII Korea Vietnam were all started by the USA? Wow.
WilliamTheBastard Member	Sun Jan 15 04:18:22 Btw, jumping in at the end of WWII was probably the best business deal the USA has ever made.
Paramount Member	Sun Jan 15 07:44:12 AIPAC will habe their congress in march/april I believe. So a new war will likely to happen after that. Also, every US president has its own war.. Obama is yet to start his, which will be against Iran.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jan 15 10:13:49 I have never thought a US attack on Iran as likely until now. Feels like any day now Obama will go on TV and say that he has ordered a limited strike.
jergul Member	Sun Jan 15 10:37:40 I still do not find the threat credible. Iran can grind regional oil exports to a stop without touching the Homuz simply by targeting transit and transport infrastructure.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jan 15 12:03:16 And that would escalate the conflict. Not saying it will happen, but it is more probable than ever.
jergul Member	Sun Jan 15 12:18:53 Nimi Escalate? Nah. Mission creep is assured if any form of attack takes place. Iran is already positioning to justify crippling other nations' exports. Though UAE and Iraqi exports are likely to be limited to today's levels though political means. Saudi Arabia should be very worried. I think the house of saud will have more trouble losing oil revenue than Iran will. 2nd line stuff to Afghanistan 2nd line stuff to Hezbollah 2nd line stuff to Iraq Ruckus in Saudi Arabia The risk side is very significant.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 12:20:27 rofl jergul maths
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 12:35:26 I pick July 4th., Obama is such a patriotic soul.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Jan 15 12:40:52 would you support the attack on iran, Rod? By this administration, I mean.
jergul Member	Sun Jan 15 12:42:33 Sammy Not sure what you are giggling about. 6 million expat Iranians. Can you imagine how much more homeland security laws you are going to need to keep you "free" and "safe"?
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 12:51:53 jergul, you lost the war. give up. If obama bombs Iran, I will vote for him.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 12:52:24 CR, they have to be stopped sometime somehow.
werewolf dictator Member	Sun Jan 15 12:55:42 ill take that as a 'no'
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Jan 15 13:09:41 Is this a "no", Rod? You would not support an attack?
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 13:18:27 hamas rod is taking the side of iran and bin laden in the same 8 month period? what a fucking dirty terrorist.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 13:22:54 Nimatzo: March EP: Sept Mp7: May HR: July 4
Rugian Member	Sun Jan 15 13:26:03 I'm going to take the optimist route and say never.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 13:32:32 What the hell is wrong with your brains? Are they completely kaput? "CR, they have to be stopped sometime somehow." If I saw that I would take it to obviously mean sooner rather than later. I swear, you guys get stupider everyday.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Jan 15 13:35:19 So you would support obama's administration if they attack Iran?
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 13:49:30 I will be optimistic and say april. :)
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 13:54:57 CR, Not as an aggressor. But when it becomes necessary if Obama is still president then sure. I don't think Iran should be allowed nukes. Do you?
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 13:55:36 ^hamas rod supports obama. rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Jan 15 13:58:33 I don't think much will change, if they get a nuke. But no, I do not want them to get a working nuclear weapon.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 13:58:46 By necessary I mean as soon as it is determined they have a nuke. Not before and certainly not to win reelection points which I would not put past him. molehill climber, at least I will not vote for him as you fully intend to do.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 14:01:03 "By necessary I mean as soon as it is determined they have a nuke." Goddamnet, I had the link to the state.gov presentation showing clear photographic evidence of Iraqi nukes and bioweapons like 3 days ago.
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Jan 15 14:01:34 "By necessary I mean as soon as it is determined they have a nuke." wtf? Some people want an attack to prevent them from getting nukes. You want to attack a nuclear armed iran?
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 14:02:13 http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~joannah/Travel/DevilsTower.jpg what hamas rod calls a molehill. rofl.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 14:06:42 IRAQ: Failing to Disarm - Nuclear Weapons (Change it to Slide30_600.jpg for this title) Look at this clear photographic evidence: http://www.state.gov/cms_images/Slide32_600.jpg And that was from Bush. You trust Obama LESS than Bush, HR. But when Obama shows us pictures of aluminum tubes and calls them nukes, you're going to go for it? Seriously?
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 14:07:27 Obama should just recycle Bush's "clear photographic evidence." HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THIS WARHEAD: http://www.state.gov/cms_images/Slide31_600.jpg
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 14:08:22 wait are you saying we can trust iran with nuke plants, EP?
WilliamTheBastard Member	Sun Jan 15 14:08:32 jesus christ, did you have to blatantly show how easily trolled you were on that topic? Now we're all going to have to suffer reading in every thread the pedo's most excrutiatingly weak flame name "molehill climber" since "andy capp"
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 14:09:53 Richard Dreyfuss and Melinda Dillon climbed that little molehill without equipment. Here is Sam ready to take on a San Francisco's Nob Hill. http://ima...ing-on-snowy-peak-16554865.jpg
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Jan 15 14:10:28 I miss being called andy.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 14:13:02 "wait are you saying we can trust iran with nuke plants, EP?" It really doesn't matter what I think about the prospect at this point.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 14:13:14 hamas rod don't be jealous
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 14:14:03 "It really doesn't matter what I think about the prospect at this point. " thats really not the attitude a poli-sci student should have.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 14:17:21 "thats really not the attitude a poli-sci student should have. " Agreed.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Jan 15 14:17:28 I'm not talking about a stockpile of weapons and a delivery system. We made the mistake of relying on the world's intelligence community with Iraq. I don't think we should make the same mistake with Iran. I think we will know for sure before they can do any damage. Besides, they will probably test it and then we will know.
Paramount Member	Sun Jan 15 14:23:20 'Israel and U.S. postpone massive defense drill in fear of escalation with Iran' Israeli defense officials tell Channel 2 that Washington wants to avoid causing further tensions in region after various foreign reports of U.S. and Israeli preparations for strike on Iran. http://www...-escalation-with-iran-1.407466
Paramount Member	Sun Jan 15 15:44:56 http://mon...-tells-israel-to-back-off.html ^ USA tells Israel to fuck off
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 15:47:13 Because they aren't following our timescale. Not because we've got a beef with *what* they want to do, but because we've got a beef with *when*. Our government is pissed at the Israeli government for being a shitty and disobedient client state. "waaaaaaaaaa jews" - Obama + crew.
WilliamTheBastard Member	Sun Jan 15 15:48:10 "We made the mistake of relying on the world's intelligence community with Iraq. I don't think we should make the same mistake with Iran." rofl@shithead "I think we will know for sure before they can do any damage. Besides, they will probably test it and then we will know. " rofl...rofl...what will you do then? apologize politely and back out of the room stammering like bush with NK?
WilliamTheBastard Member	Sun Jan 15 16:26:34 actually, it could be that israel is trying to provoke Iran and the USA into attacking each other. http://www...t-s-assassination/%28page%29/2
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jan 15 16:30:29 ^is that your expert opinion, master of fuzz?
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 15 16:32:35 Sounded like an expert conjecture to me.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jan 15 17:22:38 >>Iran is already positioning to justify crippling other nations' exports<< it does not matter, how Iran can justify anything. I think the current nuclear issue is good evidence for that.
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