Utopia Talk / Politics / Yankees loses another 30k jobs

The Children Member	Mon Sep 12 12:33:21 Thats right, thats 30 THOUSAND jobs. Gone, wiped, deleted, written off, canceled, fired, desks cleared, vanished, owned. http://fin...asset=&ccode=#mwpphu-container NEW YORK (AP) -- Bank of America will cut about 30,000 jobs over the next few years in a bid to save $5 billion per year. The cost-cutting drive is part of a broader effort to reshape and shrink the nation's largest bank as it copes with fallout from the housing bust.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Sep 12 12:47:52 automation reducing your kind of jobs(unskilled) is going to prevent you from ever having good life, TC. bwahahhahahahahahaha
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 12:57:25 Sam, It also drives down your standard of living when those same unemployed people vote for more welfare for themselves.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:01:54 Thats where Sam usually comes in with his totally realistic plan of executing welfare recipients.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:03:03 I'd vote for that.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:03:51 Or at the very least, voting practices should revert to the Federalist era and anyone who doesn't own property or rent at a minimum level should have suffrage rights revoked.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:05:09 "Or at the very least, voting practices should revert to the Federalist era and anyone who doesn't own property or rent at a minimum level should have suffrage rights revoked. " Thats freedom for ya. What if I don't want to owe anything? Will you force me to work? What is this, USSR?
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:06:22 "Will you force me to work?" No. By all means, if you want to starve in the street and be denied voting rights, that's your choice. Freedom, baby. How hard does it rule.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:08:43 "No. By all means, if you want to starve in the street and be denied voting rights, that's your choice. " I am fine with starving in the streets but why would I be denied voting rights?
Dakyron Member	Mon Sep 12 13:11:05 If you dont contribute to society, why should you have a voice?
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:11:18 Why should you get voting rights? You don't work and you don't produce any money for the government, yet you want a say in how public money is spent? Fuck you, go leech off someone else you hippie.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:16:49 "Why should you get voting rights? You don't work and you don't produce any money for the government, yet you want a say in how public money is spent? " USSR, indeed. You would go to jail if you weren't working in USSR. Same reasoning really. Yes, I don't want to work, yes I want to excercise my democratic franchise, whats wrong with that?
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:19:20 Wrong, bitch. I can see that your European-type mentality prevents you from distinguishing between choice and lack of choice, I pity you for that. "Yes, I don't want to work, yes I want to excercise my democratic franchise, whats wrong with that?" Wow. Just read that question over and you'll have your answer.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:21:39 "Wrong, bitch. I can see that your European-type mentality prevents you from distinguishing between choice and lack of choice, I pity you for that. " My choice is not to work, correct? Why do you want to deny me my vote?
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:23:18 Because you've done nothing to earn it? Duh.
Pissflaps McGee Member	Mon Sep 12 13:25:21 "Because you've done nothing to earn it?" The way you "earn" the "right" to vote is to turn 18. Nothing more is required, son.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:25:54 "In the Soviet Union, which declared to be a workers' state, every adult able-bodied person was expected to work until official retirement. Thus unemployment was officially and theoretically eliminated; those who refused to work or otherwise did not work, study or serve, risked being criminally charged with social parasitism" (wiki) Replace criminally charged with losing voting rights and you have Rugian's ideal country.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Sep 12 13:26:11 again, stupid people should be encouraged to have abortions as often as possible. I mean having a massive welfare class that is cared for by robots seems like our future regardless of what we do, but we might as well try to limit the numbers of poor and stupid as much as possible.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:26:45 That's the way it currently is, due to the misguided efforts of some liberal fuckwits a couple decades ago. Let's change the method back to how the Founding Fathers intended it. No contribution to society, no vote.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:29:00 "No contribution to society, no vote. " Comrade Rugian would feel right at home in North Korea or Cuba.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:31:41 Rugian "No contribution to society, no vote. " "To each according to his contribution is considered by socialists and Marxist socialists as a characteristic of society directly following the transition to socialism, but preceding the final step to communism. This essentially means that people are rewarded based on the amount they contribute to the social product." http://en...._according_to_his_contribution ROFL
Pissflaps McGee Member	Mon Sep 12 13:32:31 ROFL
Pissflaps McGee Member	Mon Sep 12 13:33:40 According to Rugian's view, David Garrard should not be allowed to vote.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:33:57 And Hippie CrownRoyal would feel right at home in Detroit.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:34:54 Pissflaps McGee Member Mon Sep 12 13:33:40 According to Rugian's view, David Garrard should not be allowed to vote. No, he just shouldn't be allowed to ever touch a football again.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:35:26 Well, how would it work, yearly? Garrard did work this year. But since Rugian wants to return to Founding Fathers customs, I am afraid Garrard is fucked anyway, since he is a negro.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:36:34 "And Hippie CrownRoyal would feel right at home in Detroit." I am embarassed by this lame comeback, comrade marxist.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:36:36 Black people with means had voting rights in the 18th century, fucknut. It was the Democrats that unilaterally stripped persons of color of any voting rights.
Pissflaps McGee Member	Mon Sep 12 13:36:58 "Let's change the method back to how the Founding Fathers intended it. " Yeah, let's go back to slavery and witch burning and shit.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:37:30 "I am embarassed by this lame comeback, comrade marxist." What's embarassing are your weaksauce attempts to turn productivity into a communist-only idea, welfare queen.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:39:11 "What's embarassing are your weaksauce attempts to turn productivity into a communist-only idea" When you have no choice, it is a communist idea. well, socialist-marxist, to be exact. Get it, comrade?
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:40:03 You do have a choice, bum. Got that?
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:41:06 No, if I choose not to work, state punishes me by taking my vote away, by making me a second-class citizen. Shameful, comrade.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:43:45 Feel free to think of it as compensation for the welfare money you're getting. Either way, choices have consequences. Western countries have declined in large part due to the fact that people have realized that you can be totally useless and still own a plasma TV and an XBox. Time to end the free ride, hippies.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:44:10 I don't want any welfare, any assistance, I just want to live in the wild and eat roots and honey. Why would rugian's favorite government chose to punish me?
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:47:08 If you are without residence you shouldn't be able to vote regardless.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 12 13:49:09 WTF
Oddfish Member	Mon Sep 12 13:51:49 Sounds like the USSR where the unemployed were thrown into jail after 9 months.
Oddfish Member	Mon Sep 12 13:53:16 "Bank of America will cut about 30,000 jobs over the next few years in a bid to save $5 billion per year. The cost-cutting drive is part of a broader effort to reshape and shrink the nation's largest bank as it copes with fallout from the housing bust. " 3 years on and DIRECT results of the Bush era still coming in.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 13:58:28 Rugian Member Mon Sep 12 13:47:08 If you are without residence you shouldn't be able to vote regardless." Yeah, I'll open a PO box near the wilderness where I roam. I still contribute zero though, comrade. Do you want to just take my vote or should I be sent to hard labor camp for a couple years too?
Tragically Hip Member	Mon Sep 12 14:10:14 Voter registration would be a real bitch. Sounds like you'd have a shrinking voting base too, with the way things are going at the moment, unless this is intended to turn our fortunes around. And what about students?
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Sep 12 14:15:00 Students had a waiver for several years in USSR. I am sure Rugian wants to emulate the soviets.
kilo Member	Mon Sep 12 14:37:55 Yes I would like to see how students who have trouble finding a job would factor into this.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Sep 12 16:03:59 "Yes I would like to see how students who have trouble finding a job would factor into this. " they wouldnt be able to vote? whats the problem. Leaving voting rights to only with jobs or capital is a great idea.
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